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GaroRobe wrote:
That and they usually make the starter set generic. Sure, they may be painted as ultramarines, but they don't have any actually chapter specific iconography.


yeah dark vengence was a notable exception for that. to be honest I'd not mind seeing another vanilla marines chapter given the status of edition poster boys. although I think Ultramarines mostly have that because they're the easiest of the vanilla armies to paint.

I mean beyond the UMs you have

Raven Guard: Black and White (not easy)
Iron Hands: Black (not easy)
Imperial Fists: Yellow (not easy)
Salamanders: Green (reasonbly easy although salamander flesh is a bit.. odd)
White Scars: White (not easy)
Black Templars: black (yet again not easy)

so yeah ultramarines are the poster boy vanilla faction because they're noob friendly

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I forgot about Dark Vengenace, but that's a good point that Marines aren't always vanilla. Honestly, I wouldn't mind some Primaris that are intended to be DW from the start. Like if they released some Vanguard, but with shoulder pads sculpted with DW in mind. (Since DW can't have Vanguard at the moment. I suspect its because the shoulder pads aren't DW compatible, although there are probably other reasons)
   
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I hope for new Xenos stuff.. namely Orks, Nids and GeneCults.
Orks/nids vs SoB/New plastic Guardsmen would be awesome.
Although I’d wager, necrons would be in the new starter.

I wonder how good of an idea it would be for GW to redo basic infantry kits for races other than marines.
   
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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:


I wonder how good of an idea it would be for GW to redo basic infantry kits for races other than marines.


Fire warriors got an update a release or two back.

Necron warriors probably need it the most from basic troops. That sprue is barren.

Orks, eldar guardians, and guard could do with the fire warrior treatment. Keep the aesthetic changes minimal, just add new options and make the sprues more efficient.

Swarms are pretty bad as well. Rippers and scarab could use new kits of their own like nurglings got.
   
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Rippers have never had a plastic kit of their own, they are spare parts on other tyranid sprues. Be nice if they gave them a kit to add skyslashers at an affordable price (FW ones look neat but are very expensive for what is a swarm unit)

Guardians could do with an update they are ancient; Necron Warriors coudl do with an update to proper plastic central tubes for the weapons instead of the clear-see-through ones (so that they finally match the necrons on the ark).

Termagaunts could do with updates to not have split heads though otherwise the kit is fine - more dynamix poses on hormagaunts would be neat; but otherwise its again quite fine. Back a few editions Termagaunts did have a few more weapons like spike rifles which could appear again with a new kit.


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Hmm... so, 9th Ed or bust I guess?

   
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Hopefully us 40K Kill Team players have not been forgotten. It would be good if they had an expansion that focused on additional wargear options to enhance our teams, as well as more units.

Wish-listing as an Eldar-fanboy, it would be nice to have plastic kits of either Warlocks, Storm Guardians, Rangers or even Asurmen. An alternative Death Jester would be welcome, as would Ynnari in Kill Team.

For 40K itself, I hope they only do a revised 8th edition without the need to replace the current codex books. 40K could also do with its own slim and affordable rule book, like the AoS Gaming Book, with updated rules. It seems a bit early for 9th edition..


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I agree it doesn't "have" to be 9th edition and a 9th edition doesn't have to be a total reworking of the rules. A simple clean-up rulebook would suit fine.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... so, 9th Ed or bust I guess?


That's where I'd be. I don't GW anymore, but I'm always happy to look at a new edition with an open mind and be persuaded. I suspect the likelihood is that even if it's 9th it'll be an iteration of 8th, which means it won't be all that compelling to me, but we'll see.

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9th edition when it comes will be a "clean up of 8th" it'll look at 8th note what worked, what didn't. likely offically plug all the holes the FAQ did and thats it, our old codices will likely remain valid etc.


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We still have Fulgrim coming. All the Psychic Awakening teasers have mostly come to fruition. Ghaz, Fabius Bile, probably some necron ones, etc. We've had a ton of heavy Fulgrim hints. Ooh, what if the starter set isn't Necron, but Emperor's children? We had Death Guard last edition, so they could do something similar, leading up to a Fulgrim + EC release. Although I doubt they'd do a EC v Necron box, so who knows.
   
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GaroRobe wrote:
 Red Corsair wrote:
Weren't the last three previews billed as the biggest thing ever?

While I had no problem with that, lots of people did when it was a split affair. Hopefully they aren't setting people hopes too high. I have plenty of stuff already, so as always I will welcome anything new and cool but won't really mind if it doesn't live up to the hype since it will save my wallet and backlog.


I don't believe so. It was only the Adepticon reveal, which should have shown off everything, that was marketed as the biggest reveal ever.

So, you've technically got to combine the past reveals into one, which gave us:
*A new 30k Primarch model
*Mega gargants
*The full reveal of the Lumineth lords
*Two new Warcry bands
*A new Blood bowl team
*The final expansion for Blackstone Fortress
*Illuminor Syskhah(?)'s new model, plus a new Inquisitor
*A Harlequin character and the SoB psyker (though the former is supposedly for Imperium, not Harlequin )
*A couple new Forgeworld models, including Saul Tarvitz
*Plus a few other things

I get that it's not the biggest reveal ever. But they could go all out on Saturday. We've had teases of the Silent King, Fulgrim, 9th edition, etc. So there's potential that the hype could be worth it


When was Fulgrim teased?
   
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I honestly don't know what to think. I mean we are clearly getting SOME necron stuff but how much and what, if anything beyond the Silent King, is hard to say.

Leading with necrons going into a big reveal might make you think it is going to be quite necron heavy with other stuff thrown in. Especially since, as yet, they haven't thrown out any other teaser videos.

However, I simply can't see GW using a Xenos race as something THAT big and it certainly wouldn;t be the first time that GW have set something up to be THAT big only for it to be 'here is 1 new model' (albeit that the new model may be super cool!)
   
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 Togusa wrote:


When was Fulgrim teased?


At the end of each psychic awakening, there are "Echoes of Awakening." Little fluff blurbs that hint at the future psychic awakening stories. Fulgrim gets brought up a lot. A multi armed snake leading the Emperor's Children, another about how he is destroying planets as part of a great masterpiece, and one about the EC just bypassing a planet without attacking.
   
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GaroRobe wrote:
 Togusa wrote:


When was Fulgrim teased?


At the end of each psychic awakening, there are "Echoes of Awakening." Little fluff blurbs that hint at the future psychic awakening stories. Fulgrim gets brought up a lot. A multi armed snake leading the Emperor's Children, another about how he is destroying planets as part of a great masterpiece, and one about the EC just bypassing a planet without attacking.

It even goes back to Gathering Storm. I believe Fracture of Biel-Tan has him identified near Armageddon.
   
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Maybe it's a fluff change?

Like the Emperor finally dies, leading to a big hunt for the Star Child (Hands up, ancient fluff readers who know that one!) … the "Awakening" is from a new god of humanity being created.

Or the return/introduction of Malal for Chaos as a fifth Chaos god, thanks to all of the rifts.

The return of, say, Sanguinus would be big, but not, you know, SHATTERING ALL THE THINGS big.

A dead Emperor, and the echo of that creating regional psychic beacons where you no longer have the one on Terra, could be a big enough thing to shake the pillars of 40K.

But it's pretty much a thng that you can only do ONCE, so...

(Similarly: Bringing back one of the two lost chapters. C'mon, Daughters of Athena!)
   
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Wakshaani wrote:
Maybe it's a fluff change?

Like the Emperor finally dies, leading to a big hunt for the Star Child (Hands up, ancient fluff readers who know that one!) … the "Awakening" is from a new god of humanity being created.

Or the return/introduction of Malal for Chaos as a fifth Chaos god, thanks to all of the rifts.

The return of, say, Sanguinus would be big, but not, you know, SHATTERING ALL THE THINGS big.

A dead Emperor, and the echo of that creating regional psychic beacons where you no longer have the one on Terra, could be a big enough thing to shake the pillars of 40K.

But it's pretty much a thng that you can only do ONCE, so...

(Similarly: Bringing back one of the two lost chapters. C'mon, Daughters of Athena!)


none of that will happen

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tneva82 wrote:
If you expect new kits to come right away in solo rather than being combo box exclusive for a while you are in for a dissapointment.

Yeah, but the Gravis Captain has been a starter-box exclusive for a long time.

   
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Everyone here is way overestimating what we're going to see next weekend.

We're going to see full reveals for all the Psychic Awakening books and accompanying models they've already teased and probably give a release schedule for all of them. It would make zero sense for them to show off a new edition when they have 3 announced but unreleased supplements for the current edition.

Of course I'm sure that won't stop people from calling it a let down or disappointment when this doesn't turn out to be a new edition.

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You could be right. But people have been saying psychic awakening was leading up to 9th edition for a long time. And 9th was rumored to drop during the Summer. The whole covid situation messed up the release schedule, but we'd probably be close to the last psychic awakening books by now, if Pariah is the last one.
   
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Quite.

The minipocalypse has buggered the release schedule, there's likely hard and soft releases that GW have scheduled and some of the soft releases might have had to be somewhat sacrificed to keep the hard dates on track.

That's assuming, of course, that an edition change will render the books useless, which didn't happen for 3 successive edition changes, so no need to assume it will now.

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If we get a 9th edition it will most likely be just like going from 3rd to 4th or 4th to 5th with current codexes working just fine until a new one is released, just like the 3.5 csm codex worked perfectly fine in 4th until the 4th edition codex was released towards the end of 4th which worked just fine (and by fine I mean not nearly as good as 3.5 but it still functioned) in 5th itself. So PA books will be perfectly fine in 9th if it actually happens.
   
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I don't think anyone believes that 9th will be a major overhaul of the rules ala 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd, or 7th to 8th. It'll be a refresh like 4th/5th/6th/7th.

But it means a new starter kit, sending a lot of standard units OOP (better get 'em now, Primaris and DG players!) as I doubt they'll come back.

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Right behind you.

...or they'll be released as Start Collecting sets, seeing as how Death Guard don't have one and there's no vanilla Primaris one.

And it's literally what they did with the Realmgate Wars set.
   
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It's going to be the biggest, most incredible set of previews to ever grace the earth! Trust me! Bigger than EVERYTHING you've see in your life, COMBINED!!!
Well, the two previous reveals each had a new plastic SoB model so I expect a third one .

Plastic Sisters of Battle here, plastic Sisters of Battle there, plastic Sisters of Battle here, plastic Sisters of Battle everywhere!!!
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Heres my prediction:

9th Edition confirmed but not called 9th edition.

New Primarisised Land speeder and bikes plus all the primaris characters on bikes and landspeeders, and new primaris lieutenant.

Necron Finecast update multi kits (deathmarks & flayed ones combo kit ?)

Forge world updated books announced now that PA is winding down

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
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My prediction new plastic Guard that aren’t terrible!



..........just kidding. Necrons will get one character and maybe Flayed ones in plastic. Marines will get nine new kits.


 
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
...or they'll be released as Start Collecting sets, seeing as how Death Guard don't have one and there's no vanilla Primaris one.

And it's literally what they did with the Realmgate Wars set.
Well GW did have the presence of mind not to max'n'match the Primaris and DG stuff on the same sprues, so maybe they will.

 Argive wrote:
Necron Finecast update multi kits (deathmarks & flayed ones combo kit ?)
Deathmarks are already combined with Immortals.

I could very much see a new Warrior, Destroyer/HDestroyer and Monolith kits just to get the plastic rods out of the production pipeline.

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 Marshal Loss wrote:
Wakshaani wrote:
Maybe it's a fluff change?

Like the Emperor finally dies, leading to a big hunt for the Star Child (Hands up, ancient fluff readers who know that one!) … the "Awakening" is from a new god of humanity being created.

Or the return/introduction of Malal for Chaos as a fifth Chaos god, thanks to all of the rifts.

The return of, say, Sanguinus would be big, but not, you know, SHATTERING ALL THE THINGS big.

A dead Emperor, and the echo of that creating regional psychic beacons where you no longer have the one on Terra, could be a big enough thing to shake the pillars of 40K.

But it's pretty much a thng that you can only do ONCE, so...

(Similarly: Bringing back one of the two lost chapters. C'mon, Daughters of Athena!)


none of that will happen


Probably! But hey, they want to promise the biggest thing ever, might as well shoot for the Moon, you know?
   
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 Argive wrote:
Heres my prediction:

9th Edition confirmed but not called 9th edition.

New Primarisised Land speeder and bikes plus all the primaris characters on bikes and landspeeders, and new primaris lieutenant.

Necron Finecast update multi kits (deathmarks & flayed ones combo kit ?)

Forge world updated books announced now that PA is winding down

No more primaris lieutenants!

As for your last prediction, I hope they're real books and not just more boring indexes. An equivalent to IA 13 would be great, hopefully with some new additions. The Glaive would be nice.
   
 
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