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I'd update the bases if and only if you're planning on adding to the army. and that's more a "so you don't have mixed bases" then anything

"Dinky" my OG Bloodthirster says to come on over.
I've been doing this since RT, so I've got stuff older than yours. Hope you don't mind if some of my stuff is still on hex bases.

You know the quick way to tell if someone's not worth playing? If they give you grief about playing with "old models" because they aren't as big as current stuff. Or if long finished models aren't on current sized bases. They start this? Just walk away from them.

SpaceOrk wrote:
With all that being said, if you showed up to play a game with me, and saw the force I brought, would you play? I want to know what the general consensus is. Are my models just too old at this point? Not a single one is younger than 2002 I believe.

Bring it on!

Too bad you live bit too far from me though for actual game but no this army would not be a problem at all.


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 ZergSmasher wrote:
For tournament play, you might run into some issues with base sizes and the fact that the old Trukk models are tiny. For casual play though, I'd have fun playing against that! I love old-school models and think it's awesome that they still sometimes get some use.

That base size thingie needs to die. Even in 8th ed it was HALF a rank more even on optimal situation and you lose on board control. In 9e smaller base is just disadvantage anyway as you cannot get more than 2 ranks period whether you base is 25mm or 120mm.

No. I would never play you. How DARE you put blue paint on a trukk?

Just messing. Of course I'd play you. Keep the original bases and trukks too - I'm a casual player.
1) They're official models, and
2) the differences between original and current are never going to be significant enough to make a difference.

BrianDavion wrote:
I could see Ghazzy also being an issue, his new model is monsterous compared to others, but Worst case Scenerio just run him as a warboss in mega armor. (which IIRC is legends)

Actually, in hindsight I might have had an issue with the 2nd ed model too, as he's no bigger than a modern Marine, and newer rules on models with so many wounds make a big deal of them being more visible.
Here he is next to some other 2nd ed Orks (he's middle left):



However, I think I can see him in the original shot - far left, next to the trukk? If so that's the 3rd ed model, which I wouldn't have an issue with.

 insaniak wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Or, you know, don't.

The 25mm bases on them have been fine for the last 30 years.

Except you're not allowed to use 25 mm for regular infantry its 32mm now. And some players wont like that you use 25mm bases since it can give certain advantages.

So for all intends and purposes one should strive to get 32mm bases. Doesnt mean he cant use his 25mm, but those arent the official rules.

Beardedragon wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Or, you know, don't.

The 25mm bases on them have been fine for the last 30 years.

Except you're not allowed to use 25 mm for regular infantry its 32mm now. And some players wont like that you use 25mm bases since it can give certain advantages.

So for all intends and purposes one should strive to get 32mm bases. Doesnt mean he cant use his 25mm, but those arent the official rules.

The day were GW writes quality rules where that really is an advantage , is the day you should do so.
Until then, most players , especially the vets, will be perfectly happy i dare say.

Beardedragon wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Or, you know, don't.

The 25mm bases on them have been fine for the last 30 years.

Except you're not allowed to use 25 mm for regular infantry its 32mm now. And some players wont like that you use 25mm bases since it can give certain advantages.

So for all intends and purposes one should strive to get 32mm bases. Doesnt mean he cant use his 25mm, but those arent the official rules.

32mm aren't the official rules, either.

I would play you just for the nostalgic feeling of seeing all those old models.

Your army looks awesome!

Beardedragon wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Beardedragon wrote:

however you should buy base adapters to upgrade your 25mm bases for infantry to 32.

Or, you know, don't.

The 25mm bases on them have been fine for the last 30 years.

Except you're not allowed to use 25 mm for regular infantry its 32mm now. And some players wont like that you use 25mm bases since it can give certain advantages.

So for all intends and purposes one should strive to get 32mm bases. Doesnt mean he cant use his 25mm, but those arent the official rules.

Uuuhhh...based on who? Not according to GW at least. The OFFICIAL stance is whatever base it came with for you is fine. Any other claim(like only 32mm base allowed now) is either flat out cheating or house rule. So which is it for you? Are you admitting you are using house rule or that you are flat out cheating?

tneva82 wrote:


Uuuhhh...based on who? Not according to GW at least. The OFFICIAL stance is whatever base it came with for you is fine. Any other claim(like only 32mm base allowed now) is either flat out cheating or house rule. So which is it for you? Are you admitting you are using house rule or that you are flat out cheating?

You can question a claim without being rude about it. Simply asking "What are you basing that statement on?" would be more productive.

Get those pictures into the Gallery and ask again.
As said, they are official models. Old school are just as valid as recent releases.

I'd have no issue, but I'd probably have to tune down my list so we both have fun game. Most of the things you have aren't exactly awesome anymore.

Would LOVE to play this army!!!

Anyone modeling or basing for advantage would still mix in modern miniatures where they were the stronger option. The whole army being 3rd edition and on appropriate bases for the time is about as far from MFA as I can imagine; you are giving up on a whole swathe of units and equipment in order to run an army from an era you liked. Not only would I play against you, I would be honored to do so.

There are some really awesome comments in here guys. Really happy to hear that people would almost universally not have a problem with it. I probably won’t be rebasing anything, but I’m not a gamer, so I wouldn’t know how to take real advantage of the smaller footprint anyways. If anyone else has a vintage army they play with id love to see photos!

Old school are just as valid as recent releases.

For me personally, when it comes to Orks, old school is the best school! When I saw the pics I knew someone would complain about the model size or the base size etc. But honestly, I don't care. They are actual Citadel (and possibly some really old school Marauder minis) and you have them on the original bases they came with (which, outside of certain tournament formats is still a legal way to run them according to GW proper), and I love those old sculpts.

I would play this all day every day and twice on Sunday!

SpaceOrk wrote:
There are some really awesome comments in here guys. Really happy to hear that people would almost universally not have a problem with it. I probably won’t be rebasing anything, but I’m not a gamer, so I wouldn’t know how to take real advantage of the smaller footprint anyways. If anyone else has a vintage army they play with id love to see photos!

From one ork player to another - all of my boyz are on the same base size as yours, since the size has only changed slightly more than a year ago.
And thanks to 9th edition's rules for fighting in second row, there is absolutely no advantage gained from smaller bases, quite the opposite.

Would play you anytime, I'd find it loathable to have someone gak off because his minis are old

One of my regular opponents uses a lot of those same models. I love seeing different models on the table.

If I can tell what it is, yeah. I might suggest you stick some things on bigger bases (like the trucks and gaz) so they stand out and are closer to the right size, but yeah, definitely fine.

I still play 3rd ed. so I'd play you in a heartbeat...





... provided you'd actually want to play under that rules set.

SpaceOrk wrote:
I want to know what the general consensus is.

Truths are not derived from consensus.

You have to ask the person you want to play for your answer.

If your chill yeah.

Damn I’d probably spend more time looking at your models and thinking of my years as an early teenager falling in love with orks rather then playing but hell it would be a great afternoon for sure ...
Make sure you hold on to those models bud.. wish I still had my metal blood axe minis.

The idea of tiny 2nd Edi Ghaz using PA rules and one-shotting Knights with his tooth pick is hilarious.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
If I can tell what it is, yeah. I might suggest you stick some things on bigger bases (like the trucks and gaz) so they stand out and are closer to the right size, but yeah, definitely fine.

So what would your reaction be if your suggestion is declined?

Anyways;
They are the right size.
They just aren't the size of the current models.

And there is no rule that says you must use the current models. (well, maybe in a tourney, but if you're not in a tourney....)

As for standing out? I didn't have any problem seeing trucks or Gaz in that picture.

Base sizes? Sure, there's rules about base sizes. But outside a tourney it's really NOT productive to argue about a handful of MM.
You'll just demonstrate that you are TFG.

If you had a brand new army with old truks in a tournament I can see people calling it out.

As your entire army is old though, it just shows you are a collector.
Me personally, no issues at all, I love the old models and I’m currently rebuilding my 2nd edition tyranids.

It’s honestly nice to see the old stuff again.


One thing you may run into fairly often (I used to get it weekly) is people asking what certain things are.
Some newer players may not be aware of all the older models so you will likely have to explain that now and then.

I’ve only ran into 1 issue in the past with my Tyranid and that was a younger player complaining I wasn’t using GW models in a GW store.
The manager showed him some of the older catalogs and we explained they were old models, he was then cool with it and wanted to take pics as he’d never seen them before.

I'd absolutely love to play against them! We could recreate the war for Armageddon with my 2nd/3rd edition Salamanders army, it'd be one of my best gaming moments =)

ccs wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
If I can tell what it is, yeah. I might suggest you stick some things on bigger bases (like the trucks and gaz) so they stand out and are closer to the right size, but yeah, definitely fine.

So what would your reaction be if your suggestion is declined?

Nothing? Note how after your highlight, I wrote "but yeah, definitely fine." It's his collection. I also prefer to play against painted armies but it's not like I complain if they're not. If it's hard to identify what I'm playing against, it's a barrier to my enjoyment, so I might not want to play if that's a hassle after a game (or it might be fine because the owner is chill, a fun opponent, or recognizes that it makes things a little harder to follow so helps out), but that's not about dated models. The bases are just about putting in some effort to help your opponent.