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 Hellfury wrote:


Hasbro isnt involving GW, so dont expect fimir, and that sort. And honestly, Hasbro dont need them either. This isnt the late 80's with Milton Bradley. Hasbro makes GW look like an amatuer in the gaming world.



FYI GW has a larger market cap than Mattel, Hasbro's primary rival. Hasbro's at 10.77B, GW at 4.25B, Mattel at 3.82B. It's likely someone at Hasbro has seen how GW has been performing over the last couple years is trying to see if they can grab some of that mojo.
   
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Is Hasbro even the same market? I really don't know so I'm very likely wrong, but gun to my head, I'd say GW is 12-45yo and Hasbro is 3-13yo with a bit or 19-35 for board games etc? How much of Hasbro is even board games? When I think of Hasbro my first though is He-man, Power Rangers type stuff.
   
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A large number of companies are actually owned by Hasbro and have been for some time; while board games may not make up much of Hasbro's overall business, they are the probably the biggest player in the board games market. From Wikipedia:

Hasbro is the largest producer of board games in the world as a result of its component brands, such as Parker Brothers, Waddingtons, Milton Bradley, Wizards of the Coast, and Avalon Hill (all acquisitions since the 1980s).


Parker Brothers being acquired in 1991 means Hasbro currently publishes Monopoly, Cluedo/Clue, and Risk. While their actual merits as board games can certainly be debated, that they're a major part of the mainstream board game market really isn't in doubt. Throw in Avalon Hill (owned since 1998) and Milton Bradley (owned since 1984) and you've got a pretty large swathe of the market. Worth noting that Hasbro effectively was the publisher of the original HeroQuest since MB was a subsidiary at the time.

I think Hasbro just doesn't feel like making it obvious that they control the lion's share of the market so they publish under a variety of imprints is all.
   
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Now...before we get carried away with the faries...lets take a moment to reflect on why Heroquest was so great in the first place, and to what standard we need to judge by for the new edition...



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Hopefully they didn't make the game to cater to short attention span, easily impressed and lazy "gamers" like GW.
   
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Hopefully they didn't make the game to cater to short attention span, easily impressed and lazy "gamers" like GW.




Why don't you just accuse those who play Heroquest being too lazy to play D&D/Warhammer RPG?

The game is what it is and the old one was a great diversion. That's all I ask of the new, whoever publishes it.


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JWBS wrote:
Is Hasbro even the same market? I really don't know so I'm very likely wrong, but gun to my head, I'd say GW is 12-45yo and Hasbro is 3-13yo with a bit or 19-35 for board games etc? How much of Hasbro is even board games? When I think of Hasbro my first though is He-man, Power Rangers type stuff.


Well, they do have the power rangers, but also Hasbro is more the GI Joe, Transformers and My Little Pony company

blackfang and Krinsath cover the games pretty well. Since this is done by the Avalon Hill subdivision, think more of their big current games: Axis and Allies, Betrayal at House on the Hill (and spin offs), Risk, and Diplomacy.

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I'm waiting now for that timer to expire and we find out this is for the release of a free-to-play mobile game

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Now...before we get carried away with the faries...lets take a moment to reflect on why Heroquest was so great in the first place, and to what standard we need to judge by for the new edition...




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 Pacific wrote:
I'm waiting now for that timer to expire and we find out this is for the release of a free-to-play mobile game



It does look like a graphic doesn't it.

And that video is ACE!

 
   
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I love that video, very fun.

I know it was made as joke, but man I cannot agree enough on the board part. I really hope they keep the board and don't do modular dungeon tiles. Nothing is more annoying when playing a dungeon crawler than when your dungeon randomly ends up being 7 feet long by 6 inches across and you could not reasonably fit it on a table.


 
   
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 Krinsath wrote:
I think Hasbro just doesn't feel like making it obvious that they control the lion's share of the market so they publish under a variety of imprints is all.


I looked at their Wiki, and it's a crazy-quilt of acquisitions! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbro

"Avalon Hill has been under the management of Wizards of the Coast for a number of years, producing an average of one to two games per year since 2016. The brand currently encompasses titles such as Axis & Allies, the Betrayal games, and Diplomacy, all of which will now be managed by Hasbro’s gaming division."

https://www.toynews-online.biz/2020/09/11/hasbro-takes-over-management-of-wizard-of-the-coasts-gaming-brand-avalon-hill/?fbclid=IwAR0zddnZu20ERWfaaI1nMeqBJBb0n6RUDdL9JGgKK4Vyh-mkd42iG9SCUgE

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As much as I want to play HQ again, it would be in our best interests to ask ourselves these questions:

1. Is this going to have American, UK or new rules, or all three?

2. Does it still take place in it's own setting, or in the D&D/MTG world?

3. If #2 is the latter, what will happen with the orcs*?

4. Who will be replacing the Fimirs, and will there me a Witchlord?

5. Will there be plastic minis, or standees?

6. How much will it cost, and is this worldwide, or just limited to a certain country?

* Forgive me MODs for using your colour like this, but please just look it up instead of asking why; I don't want to start things, just keeping this related to HQ.
   
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Voss wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Is Hasbro even the same market? I really don't know so I'm very likely wrong, but gun to my head, I'd say GW is 12-45yo and Hasbro is 3-13yo with a bit or 19-35 for board games etc? How much of Hasbro is even board games? When I think of Hasbro my first though is He-man, Power Rangers type stuff.


Well, they do have the power rangers, but also Hasbro is more the GI Joe, Transformers and My Little Pony company.


They've held the Star Wars license for like 20 years and owned Power Rangers for all of 2.

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 parakuribo wrote:
As much as I want to play HQ again, it would be in our best interests to ask ourselves these questions:

2. Does it still take place in it's own setting, or in the D&D/MTG world?



The pic of the skull dude on the countdown page (who might or might not be the replacement of the original HQ chaos warlock) is named witch-lord and the symbol on his sash is some kind of bug (does this mean anything in DnD/MTG lore?), so I guess they're getting rid of too obvious Warhammer imagery? Spoilered due to size:

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 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
 parakuribo wrote:
As much as I want to play HQ again, it would be in our best interests to ask ourselves these questions:

2. Does it still take place in it's own setting, or in the D&D/MTG world?



The pic of the skull dude on the countdown page (who might or might not be the replacement of the original HQ chaos warlock) is named witch-lord and the symbol on his sash is some kind of bug (does this mean anything in DnD/MTG lore?), so I guess they're getting rid of too obvious Warhammer imagery? Spoilered due to size:

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It just looks like a generic scarab image. If you squint, the swirling things on his neck piece are the same basic shape as the Red Mana symbol, but without the fire detail. Coincidence, most likely.
'Witch-lord' definitely doesn't ring any D&D specific bells.

Trust me you'll know if they tie it into D&D/MtG. They aren't shy about that- they'll slap the appropriate logos on- there are about 20 or so D&D-franchise board/dice/card games running around (some of which they licensed out)

For Avalon Hill specifically, Betrayal at House on the Hill has several variants on the Avalon Hill site.
One is Betrayal at Baldur's Gate, has the red Dungeons & Dragons banner along the boxcover.
Another is Scooby Doo! Betrayal at Mystery mansion, with the appropriate cartoon font for Scooby Doo


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As I still have 3 copies sitting in my spare room in various conditions...

I'll still buy the crap out of a new one. So many great memories of this game.

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 MobileSuitRandom wrote:
The pic of the skull dude on the countdown page (who might or might not be the replacement of the original HQ chaos warlock) is named witch-lord and the symbol on his sash is some kind of bug (does this mean anything in DnD/MTG lore?), so I guess they're getting rid of too obvious Warhammer imagery? Spoilered due to size:
There was a Hero Quest expansion called "Return of the Witch-Lord" which featured an evil character that looked like that art:
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All the basic parts of the Witch-Lord are there with very minor changes. It doesn't look like they're changing anything.

Also remember that the Chaos Warlock in the original core Hero Quest wasn't really a specific enemy. It was a stand-in for the rare big spellcaster baddies you'd encounter. There was even a single escort mission where you had to rescue a prisoner and I believe the manual told you to use the Chaos Sorcerer miniature. Even the "Return of the Witch-Lord" encounter at the end of the expansion says specifically "...Use the Chaos Warlock figure to represent the Witch Lord..." This Hero Quest release may include the Witch Lord as an actual mini with its own sculpt this time.


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Its gonna be like before, we're gonna end up playing Dungeon Saga and Ravenloft to pass the time and Hasbro are gonna - and they're gonna - !


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Bit strange they would say they were doing one and then not...

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Did they ever actually say they were doing it, or just that they would like to?

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
Did they ever actually say they were doing it, or just that they would like to?

No, they never said anything about producing heroquest. The populace assumed they were due to the trademark application seen by inquisitive boardgamers. Seems a reasonable assumption to make, really.


   
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 insaniak wrote:
Did they ever actually say they were doing it, or just that they would like to?


There was no official announcement that I'm aware of. Someone just noticed that there had been a patent filing. From what I heard from people tangentially connected, it was mostly about trying to start the process to start acquiring everything needed to make it happen and nowhere near it actually happening.
   
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Ah, here it is...

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/790408.page


...yes, it seems my memory was indeed a bit fuzzy. They had applied for the trademark of "Heroquest Legacies".


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Well, glad Hasbro FINALLY got this game re-released. I'd like to think RG (and GZ finally going bankrupt) got 'em to re-release this game.

EDIT: This Hasbro graphic mentions Haslab, Hasbro's own crowdfunding platform. : https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab#faq
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Watch Ash and the gang try really hard to have fun with OG HeroQuest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmqvVMDW03M

I really hope for the sake of the grognards that this is a full rewrite with slick, modern rules so you don't have to pretend you're enjoying it with gritted teeth.

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