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Riverside, CA USA

KS is live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blacklistgames/lasting-tales-a-fantasy-miniatures-game/description



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Backed for the book. The minis are nothing special, though a good price, that I easily already have covered.
   
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I went for the full monty. I had never even heard of Blacklist Games until I saw Guerrilla Miniature Gaming's Fantasy Series 1 video, and was kicking myself for missing the KS. That got me looking at Altar Quest which I bought off Ebay for not too much more than a KS pledge, and I've been painting that over the last few weeks. I'm glad Series 1 has had shipping delays, or I would've bought a 2nd hand pledge for that too.

I'm a sucker for PVC minis lately. Modern PVC is such a nice material for gaming miniatures: decent detail and no worries about breaking miniatures. priming it with colored Vinyl Dye makes painting super quick and durable. I love Infinity, but really despise metal miniatures breaking and bending and chipping. Modern GW figures are wonderfully detailed, but everything is so small and thin and fragile that I'm scared to play with some of it, the most recent Underworlds warband had broken staffs inside the box.

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Respect for having an EU shipping hub.

But nothing to interest me so far. The system is competent, neat but unambitious. The initial mini offering likewise, and not even as interesting as wave 1. Would rather play Perilous Tales, which is basically the same game but in a pulp adventure/horror trope setting, with scenarios riffing on classic movies. Ash played it with an X-files reskin.

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I'm a fan of PVC too for most of the same reasons you've mentioned. But I don't see the need to buy into a bunch of stuff I already have (though not all of it PVC). Art direction is a big reason. Just don't care for the style (it's why I didn't back Alter Quest) and that I don't need to replace already good minis just for the sake of replacing them.
   
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Rules sound decent, but yeah, I personally have no interest in the miniatures. I guess if I played D&D it would be different, but there's such random useless stuff. I'm never going to find a use for a female elf barbarian, or half the other stuff.
   
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I like the rules so I will wait for the retail book to hit the stores as I no longer do the crowd funding. I have no interest in PVC minis.
   
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Kabalite Conscript





Germany

I love my series 1 stuff and am happily all-in again.
The rules are just up my alley and can one ever have enough miniatures?
Yes, sure, but I am hopeless in that regard.

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I'll be going all-in with it, really great selection of miniatures.

I bought 2 sets of FS1 at the $65 price and will probably do the same with series 2 at $75, depending on pledge manager pricing.

I figured that selling off the duplicate heroes and large monsters makes back the ticket price and the rest of it can go into the monster horde.

Quite excited for the hydra and cyclops in this one, and for the cats and dogs!

Also really appreciate the gender balance, with male/female versions of all the heroes, I can see lasting tales being quite approachable as a wargame.
   
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Devon, UK

That's my take too. It accommodates an odd number of players, and can be played with people who don't have to spend a ton of money on their own stuff before they can get involved. It would also allow me and some of the other older gamers a chance to dust off/reason to paint some of the models in our collections.

Always looking for games with low barrier to entry and flexible player numbers for the local club.

Haven't pledged beyond $1 yet, but seriously considering it.

Does anyone know if the rules are written to allow for someone to DM the monsters if they'd want? Beyond simply having someone dedicated to moving them about and rolling the dice.

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Design Diary 5:

If you’re short on variety in your collection, Blacklist Games has you covered – every Adversary in Fantasy Series 1 & 2 has rules in the core book, so if you pick up the rules alongside the Fantasy Series minis in the Kickstarter, you’ll have everything you need for an epic adventure!

The system allows players to pick an Adversary Force any way they like, as long as it roughly balances to the power level of the Party. There are a few restrictions when choosing the force – for instance a percentage have to be Minions (low-level foot-soldiers, such as Orc warriors or Skeleton archers), and all the Adversaries must be suitable for use in the Environment you’ve chosen

In addition to the Adversary Force, some adventures specify the use of Lurkers, which enter play randomly. Usually a single model (although it can be a group), Lurkers are an opportunity to incorporate cool ‘wandering monsters’ into your games. They tend to be a higher level than most of the other Adversaries in play, so in early games a Lurker might be a Troll or Dire Bear, but when the Party is at higher levels, it could be a Giant or Hydra!

When Adversaries activate, they follow a simple sequence depending on their broad type – either Melee or Ranged. Melee Adversaries try to charge the nearest member of the Party, while Ranged Adversaries move to a vantage point and shoot them instead. Pretty self-explanatory, right? ... This system is deliberately simple, because it allows us to modify Adversary behaviors in special circumstances. So an adventure rule might have Adversaries always target the closest Hero to an objective, while a special Adversary might make other Adversaries nearby move towards them to protect them.

Speaking of hordes, we always assume in Lasting Tales that the Adversaries in play are part of a larger force, waiting in the wings. For this reason, we have the Spawn mechanic. ... When an Adversary of the Minion type is removed as a casualty, it’s placed to one side of the gaming area in the Spawn pool. This pool is split into two halves – the Graveyard, and the Reserve pool. A model is first placed in the Graveyard. In the Adversaries phase, you roll a die to see if it moves across to the Reserve pool (if the D6 score equals or beats the model’s Spawn Value, it’s a success). You also roll a die for any model already in the Reserve pool – if that roll is successful, the model enters play at one of several pre-ordained Spawn Points. ... Elite Adversaries don’t respawn – this rule is purely to represent hordes of lesser foes streaming into battle, whereas the Elites are rare monsters and characters. Spawning also maintains focus on objectives – you’re never guaranteed to destroy every single Adversary, because there’s always a chance, however slim, that more can spawn. The only way to win the game, therefore, is to meet the victory conditions, and that’s true whether you’re fighting a pair of Cyclopes or thirty Giant Rats.


Still no sign of a PDF, afaik. I already have a coop miniatures skirmish game I haven't played yet, and numerous miniature skirmish games to work through.

163 mini's so far. Will buy two FS2 miniatures to spread out shipping costs, then wait for the rules retail on sale or something.

https://www.blacklistgamesllc.com/post/lasting-tales-design-diary-5-adversaries





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Anyone know if we will be able to do the pledge $1 and upgrade later routine?

   
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Germany

Yup, as per usual.

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 Garfield666 wrote:
Yup, as per usual.

Cool. Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.

   
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You can, but, unless you pledge at one of the non-$1 tiers, you will pay a "slightly" higher price. See the FAQ's (and the comment section currently), although, imo, it's kinda confusing.

Can I get multiple copies of a pledge level?
Yes. Additionally, as long as you’ve pledged for a full pledge (Lasting Tales Tier and above), you’ll be able to add additional content at the Kickstarter Exclusive Prices.

Can I pledge any amount and gain access to the pledge manager in order to upgrade to a full pledge at that time?
Yes you can! In the pledge manager, you will be able to upgrade to a full pledge and/or include any add-ons you missed; note that the “Kickstarter Exclusive Price” tiers will be slightly more expensive in the pledge manager.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blacklistgames/lasting-tales-a-fantasy-miniatures-game/faqs

Oh, and here's the 1/2 million unlock. It's not a cat and there' s only one of them, though.



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Drive Thru Games has a walkthrough of the demo (and was involved with playtesting). Plenty of painted mini's from FS1!

Demo's a quick read, and should give you an impression of the game. Myself, I'm gonna see if a PDF is available.


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Request to KS backers - could you please ask the creators:
1. Could they make a list of every creature that has a stat in the rulebook? It would be helpful to see what minis are needed to play all scenarios.
2. When do they plan to release the book in retail?
3. Are the listed in demo base sizes cosidered to be a necessary requirement or are they ''flexible''? In other words, can we use whatever bases we want?
   
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UK

^ I think I've figured out enough of those over the course of the campaign:

1. Still in development, but every miniature in Fantasy Series 1 & 2 and Horror Series 1 will get stats.

2. I don't think they're sure themselves, they have announced free pdfs with every book purchase at least, so we'll have our hands on the rules a bit faster.

3. It should be flexible, really doesn't seem like a strict tournament play ruleset, the expressed intent is that it is completely mini agnostic. The base sizes are given as guidelines, and it's a co-op game so there isn't really a competitve advantage to be had from min-maxing base sizes.

Campaign is going really well, it has equalled the mini count of FS1 (201 minis)... and they're still going, they're not closing it off there, plenty more to come! I think they'll run it to $1m with 10 more stretch goals to go.

Makes sense since the base pledge this time is $75 rather than $65, it gives them some scope for extra stretch goals.

I'm going all-in with 3x core minis pledge, and an extra FS1 pledge to add to the two already on the way. I won't be keeping all 1200+ minis (will probably slim down to ~900), but the pile sure will give me some weird and wonderful gaming options to play with.

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scarletsquig wrote:

1. Still in development, but every miniature in Fantasy Series 1 & 2 and Horror Series 1 will get stats.

2. I don't think they're sure themselves, they have announced free pdfs with every book purchase at least, so we'll have our hands on the rules a bit faster.

3. It should be flexible, really doesn't seem like a strict tournament play ruleset, the expressed intent is that it is completely mini agnostic. The base sizes are given as guidelines, and it's a co-op game so there isn't really a competitve advantage to be had from min-maxing base sizes.

Thanks for the answers
   
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Last 48 hours and all stretch goals have been unlocked.

218 minis for $75 is the final total, fantastic value, just like the first Kickstarter.

Particularly good for UK backers since the £ to $ ratio is pretty good right now, it works out at £55, around 25p per mini.

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Could you please ask the creators if there are rules for mounted characters in the rulebook?
   
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Devon, UK

I think I'm going to leave it. I've been on the fence pretty much since day 1, but given I'd pretty much just need the book to enable the use of a bunch of refugee models from other games, and that it's over a year away, I might as well just pick the book up at retail and not buy another box of stuff™ that I'd have to store.

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I'm on the fence strictly because it is all pre-baked scenarios. It feels like the game is a procedural mission generator away from being really special.

The recent 5-Parecs From Home from Modiphius is just such a perfect product in that regard.

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I dropped my pledge for the rules.

While you only need the book the cards and accessory pack is stuff you'd get in a traditional starter box and honestly probably needed to smoothly play so you're not page skipping. At an additional $65 that's $105 for the game before you even add minis or shipping.

While you're getting a large number of cards for the game for that price it's a very steep buy in for what it is. That's more then I spent on Gloomhaven which I think is a fair comparison for the total content offered. I feel the game book and rules are subsidizing the cost of the minis. While it's still a good deal if you're wanting to get everything--including the minis--those of us just wanting to get the game aren't getting as good of a deal and since the focus is more on the minis it makes be worry that the rules/game will just get discarded after release for another random ruleset as they do with each KS campaign. Since they appear to pay lip service to rule sets I worry about the final quality of the product.

I think, if it ever hits general retail, it will also be much cheaper. But I'll pick up the PDF sometime after launch just to see if I think it's worth investing in.

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