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EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

But the Scourges aren't going to shoot if they Deepstrike with a Heavy Weapon. So why does it need that much attention?

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

But the Scourges aren't going to shoot if they Deepstrike with a Heavy Weapon. So why does it need that much attention?

You're also giving up a turn for an opponent to freely advance and further reduce your "safe" DS spaces. "Fast but Fragile" wasn't as much of an advantage in an edition where you could full move a Rhino, hop out, and assault in the same turn, especially since Blood Angel fast Rhinos existed.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

But the Scourges aren't going to shoot if they Deepstrike with a Heavy Weapon. So why does it need that much attention?

It was gimmicky, and not always the best way to play. It was fought with issues... but it was fun, different, thematic, and when it did work in your favour it was spectacular!

Most times it just saw the unit scatter off the board, which gave your opponent a victory on turn 1.


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 Platuan4th wrote:

You're also giving up a turn for an opponent to freely advance and further reduce your "safe" DS spaces. "Fast but Fragile" wasn't as much of an advantage in an edition where you could full move a Rhino, hop out, and assault in the same turn, especially since Blood Angel fast Rhinos existed.

Ah, good old Rhino Rush... that was Marines playing as Marines should play. Shock troops that cause terror and panic. Think 4th edition saw the death of that, what with glancing hits causing embarked models to do an emergency disembark.

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

But the Scourges aren't going to shoot if they Deepstrike with a Heavy Weapon. So why does it need that much attention?

It was gimmicky, and not always the best way to play. It was fought with issues... but it was fun, different, thematic, and when it did work in your favour it was spectacular!

Most times it just saw the unit scatter off the board, which gave your opponent a victory on turn 1.

That's completely contrarian to your first post in the thread.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
You deny the opponent a whole turn via them needing to shoot Scourge?

Webway portals allowed you to keep the rest if your army in reserve. The scourges could deep strike in, so we're not deployed.

If your opponent got the first turn they would find that they have no targets to shoot at, as your army has yet to appear.

On your turn you deep strike in the scourges. So the opponent (again if they had the first turn) has lost a whole turn of shooting.

But the Scourges aren't going to shoot if they Deepstrike with a Heavy Weapon. So why does it need that much attention?

It was gimmicky, and not always the best way to play. It was fought with issues... but it was fun, different, thematic, and when it did work in your favour it was spectacular!

Most times it just saw the unit scatter off the board, which gave your opponent a victory on turn 1.

That's completely contrarian to your first post in the thread.

You mean this?

 stonehorse wrote:

• Upgrade one model to be a Sybarite, give them a Web way Portal, and then you go forego deployment, deep strike in, next turn open the portal and then launch your army through the portal on their Raiders. I did this a lot, it either worked well... or you deepstriked off the table and lost the game. Fun times!

Guess you missed this, you know the point where I pointed out it was gimmicky? Or did you need that spelt out for you?