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This is intriguing. At first I was like “what’s the point”. But after watching that video I am very interested, looks like a really good way to test your self and find inspiration. Will be watching tho product.

As someone who has issues deciding on color schemes for my models I really like the concept of this. The implementation, most notably the pricing, is something that turns me away. It does look to be a premium crafted product which one can look at to try to justify its pricing. It is great that there is no AI, its great that he probably paid a fair wage to the artists, its great that he put a lot of time and effort into it, and this looks to be a pretty decent product. But not for 50$. I mean do you need the foil borders and edging? The most (probably, I mean how would you even measure this) popular paint line, Citadel, isn't included. Personally all of my paints are Citadel or Vallejo so unless I want to spend my time playing color matching this product wouldn't even work as intended for me.

One thing that makes me hopeful for this project though is that all of the bigger hobby companies will see this idea and basically try do it themselves, but cheaper. The original color cube that he has based his project on has 10 times the cards and at a cheaper price. Conceivably a company could put out a 50-100 hobby themed card deck for $25 or less and at that price point I think you would have real winner.

 Arschbombe wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Alternatively, you can buy the original product that was the inspiration for this one: https://sarahrenaeclark.com/colorcube/

Costs less, is not fantasy/sci-fi themed, and provides generic color names.

The color cubes cost more when you buy both, you know, to get all the cards.

That same criticism applies even more to Ninjon's version.
In fact, you're paying $90 to get both of his, compared to $67 for both cubes.

And Ninjon's version is 50 cards each, and the Color Cube is 250 cards each. Massive difference in price per card, given that I've seen some complaints in this thread about the price.

Ultimately it's a matter of which product fulfills your needs better at the price you're willing to pay.

So, this Exists, Its called a Gamut Mask and has been used in painting for quite sometime. a good painter will be able to use a gamut mask and learning to use a Gamut Mask is infinitly more usefull that this.

This kinda product appeals to 2 people IMO
1: people who want to do higher level painting
2: Gear head who think every new painting gear will help them improve.

The issue with 1 is a product like this hampers your ability to grow in understanding color and how to use color with one another, this then feeds into 2 where people will think "Oh, i just need one more piece of gear or paint to make it work"
In the end, this feeds into the guillible.

The #1 "type of person" this appeals to is a Ninjon fan who wants to do something to financially support him while getting something tangible in return.

I’m not a fan of ninjon, I found his channel tricky to get on with. His painting is great. I’m tempted by this because I want to ouxpsh myself and my painting to the next level, not a gear freak, like a good brush and good paint.

The price is a lot, it looks quality but it’s big lay out. The other cube looks good too, but I do like 5e idea of having sci-fi art to inspire me, and it might broaden my hosizons for the gw bubble I often find myself in.

If I had the $50 I would gran this in a heart beat but at that price it’s competing with a new kit or squad for on e of my armies.

If I just painted and didn't play I would buy this in a heartbeat.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, this Exists, Its called a Gamut Mask and has been used in painting for quite sometime. a good painter will be able to use a gamut mask and learning to use a Gamut Mask is infinitly more usefull that this.

This kinda product appeals to 2 people IMO
1: people who want to do higher level painting
2: Gear head who think every new painting gear will help them improve.

The issue with 1 is a product like this hampers your ability to grow in understanding color and how to use color with one another, this then feeds into 2 where people will think "Oh, i just need one more piece of gear or paint to make it work"
In the end, this feeds into the guillible.

I had not heard of this gamut mask, a quick Google later, I like it. Thank you.

It's a fairly innocuous yet pricey product.

The thing to keep in mind with these sorts of releases is that the Colour Cube was useful to Jon because he's a paid hobbyist who can write all of these purchases off as a business expense to find new engaging approaches to painting the miniatures he receives for free to paint on camera for subscriber bucks. Colour swatch cards did not "level up" the painting of a returning Golden Demon trophy winner, it provided a new angle for content creation. It will not have a negative effect on your creative process, it's just unlikely to have an effect at all.

All of the resources you need for swatches, limited palettes and paint scheme generation are widely and freely available. Unless you are painting miniatures at a similar rate to someone who does it professionally, you will not find worthwhile use from a resource that simplifies that part of the process. If you have a pile of shame that you genuinely can't figure out how to approach, you should look into selling it. The solution to your problem is owning less stuff, not more.

If nothing else, it supports independent artists.

Sometimes it’s nice to inspiration from nice things. Not all products have to have cost vs reward benefit. Some are just to own and nice to use. Hell the whole miniatures market is based on this, none of it is “useful” but they are nice to collect and paint.

Like I say, I’d like this product, I dont paint for a living but spend a lot of free time and having a pretty productive like this that I can enjoy turning to for inspiration and breaking me out of ruts would be good. I just can’t afford it.

Beside the above mentioned #1 Ninjon fan who'd want to buy this, I think it's aimed mostly at people who want to paint more and want to remove a hurdle.

If you can just shuffle the cards, pick one, and then have fun with the challenge of trying to paint something (a mini or an army) within the constraints given on the card without having to think too much about the colour choice for your project then it might be a win.

One such pack might also be enough for a group of friends who play/paint together. They don't magically burn up after being used and it's a bit fancier and less work than writing colour combinations by hand on a pack of blank cards (and you're staying away from some online colour palette/scheme generator if you don't want to use your PC while painting).

You can use a tool like this:

https://coolors.co/

add an URL, like this:

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/bl_dropsite-aug21-artwide-dnfakhb20e.jpg

and get a result like this:

https://coolors.co/000800-775f49-cfad80-625444-261a19-6b6155-3e3c31

Or of you want something less muted try this:

https://www.warhammerart.com/cdn/shop/files/IMPERIALAGENTS.V2-99Thumbnail.jpg?v=1745531252&width=1946

to get this:

https://coolors.co/bf5b27-390903-ab321f-ddbc77-dba543

The site above can also generate random colour palettes.

And if you want a more DIY approach, the free painting app Krita can make gamut masks that were mentioned above (differs from colour palettes that these cards offer in that it's about a whole sub section of the colour wheel and not just about a handful of (very specific) colours)

https://docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/gamut_masks.html

(they also have further links in the "See also" section)

https://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/01/color-wheel-masking-part-1.html

https://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/02/shapes-of-color-schemes.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfE4E5goEIc

The names of individual paints (and multiple compatible ranges) is a nice bonus but it's also not that big of a deal. Just hold a few of your paints that seem close enough up to the screen (if you use an online tool, and yeah, real paints and colours on the screen are not the same) or next to the the card and if it's close enough it will work well enough. You don't need to buy a bunch of new paints just to "exactly" copy a colour scheme on a card. It will always be adjusted much more by how you highlight, shade, (and base coat/prime) your miniatures than by your initial choice of a slightly different base coat.

These cards are just a starting point. In the end is just an optional premium/luxury tool like a bunch of other stuff that we can buy for this hobby.

Mario wrote:
Beside the above mentioned #1 Ninjon fan who'd want to buy this, I think it's aimed mostly at people who want to paint more and want to remove a hurdle.

If you can just shuffle the cards, pick one, and then have fun with the challenge of trying to paint something (a mini or an army) within the constraints given on the card without having to think too much about the colour choice for your project then it might be a win.

You can use a tool like this:

https://coolors.co/

Thank you for posting that - that's super cool! Very easy to use.

This looks like a completely redundant and overpriced product.
A cheat-sheet for colour mixing would be of more use to people and would actually teach them something. This is somehow for people who are too lazy to find a colour composition online and a reference on their own. But not lazy to spend the effort and money to buy this? I don’t get it.
Kudos for using real art. That’s admirable, which I guess is sad that we live in the age, where we have to point that out. But having an advert in an advert is a little cheeky, lol.
Also I’d have concerns with colour transitions from paint to screen to print to paint again, as all of those links like not to play by the same rules as each other. I don’t know if it was addressed in the video.
I get the “support a content creator” part of the product but I’d prefer subscribing to patreon or smth instead of purchasing this premium grade home clutter expander.

Cool product, but far too spenny.

I think the best part for folks is the colour matching to TTC, ProAcryl and Army Painter, so it's a bit more than just people are too lazy to find references online. Some people want cool colour schemes and have a set of paints given to them to play with without going deep into colour compositions and theory.

I like Ninjon and I've been seriously considering the Cube system since his video. I am interested in this kind of thing. Why? Because I am engineer, not an artist. Creating a cool colour scheme just isn't in my skill set. I procrastinate for hours, even days and weeks.

That said, these don't work for me for two reasons: I am heavily invested in Vallejo and Citadel paints, and the palettes shown on the cards would be perfect if I was painting a picture, which is where the colours are drawn from, but I want to paint minis! He couldn't have used the reverse side to show the examples he painted rather than just repeating the picture?