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2012/08/16 06:51:45
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Oberleutnant
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It would be great for a while, but when everybody around you including the one you love grow old and die, again and again it becomes quite sad.
Quite a different story if everybody gets it. But its kind of sad if your family is so large you dont even know the childs of your childs of your childs grandchildren.
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2012/08/16 11:33:39
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Squidmanlolz wrote:Melissia wrote:Destruction does cause pain in others.
This brings up a good point. There is a fairly well known species of wasp that lays it's eggs in a living caterpillar. Does the wasp feel remorse for the caterpillar? No, they are entirely different, although the wasp metamorphisized from a larva that was characteristically similar to the caterpillar it now inflicts the suffering upon.
What I'm getting at is that some people, when granted the power of immortality, will no longer see themselves as 'human' therefore the suffering will be distant.
With such great power as immortality grants, the meaningless slaughter would be like an adolescent torturing small animals for fun. Disturbing as all gak.
Exactly, which is what I was getting at earlier.
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What I have
 ~4100
 ~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/08/16 11:38:03
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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It would then be up to the immortal himself/herself whether or not to indulge themselves and become a monster.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/16 11:51:18
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dark Scipio wrote:It would be great for a while, but when everybody around you including the one you love grow old and die, again and again it becomes quite sad.
Quite a different story if everybody gets it. But its kind of sad if your family is so large you dont even know the childs of your childs of your childs grandchildren.
Really the outcome depends on the person. You see that as being a bad thing. I see it as being able to fall in love not once in a life time, but many times in a life time. Would it be hard? Yes of course. But it would also be an incredible experience sharing the life of so many people. The best part is, after some time, and the knowledge youve acquired, you would be better able to describe such feelings to later generations.
And who says you HAVE to know your great great great great grand children? I would personally keep tabs on them just cause. And again, if your Immortal (and lets not forget to allow your brain to function perfectly as well, so you dont, you know, run of of memory) you would be able to remember them all, even if you just chronicled them like a historian. I think it would be one of many projects Id have going on, because again, I only have forever to get it done, whatever it is Im doing. Automatically Appended Next Post: Tadashi wrote:It would then be up to the immortal himself/herself whether or not to indulge themselves and become a monster.
Agreed. Believe it not, some people still hold doors open for strangers, or help old ladies across the street, or watch neighbors houses when they are on vacation and so on and so on and so on. The world is dark for sure, no arguing that, but it still has a LOT of good in it as well.
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2012/08/16 11:54:51
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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TBH, that is the best justification for immortality I've seen thus far. KingCracker wrote:
Agreed. Believe it not, some people still hold doors open for strangers, or help old ladies across the street, or watch neighbors houses when they are on vacation and so on and so on and so on. The world is dark for sure, no arguing that, but it still has a LOT of good in it as well.
It all depends on your view of the world (yes, perspective). Let's face it, if you view the world as negative, then it will be negative and you yourself will be negative as a result. If you view the world positively, then it will be positive and you yourself will be positive. Some say immortality is bad because you can't treasure things anymore...I believe the opposite. Its because you are immortal that you will treasure things all the more because it will eventually fade and be left as a memory. Just as mortals enjoy life, immortals can enjoy it too, and probably would treasure every fleeting moment more dearly than a mortal would - especially the 'older' the immortal becomes.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/08/16 12:00:44
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/16 12:08:22
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You claim to be so positive yet apparently humans are uninteresting and destruction is the most beautiful thing in the universe.
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2012/08/16 12:12:13
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Corpsesarefun wrote:You claim to be so positive yet apparently humans are uninteresting and destruction is the most beautiful thing in the universe.
Among the most beautiful things...the most beautiful are glorious nebulae and brilliant supernovae that shine across the Heavens, or a cherry blossom tree in bloom. Humans have limitless potential, but nature and technology, the former in all its chaotic splendor, and the latter with its sleek promise of perfection and ordered science are much nicer to contemplate.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/16 12:12:47
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/16 14:30:54
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Plastictrees
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I don't think ruling an empire or getting involved in politics would be interesting at all after like a few days. 
Surely, you'd rather spend your time learning, doing lots of drugs, eating and sleeping then dealing with the day to day crap of ruling billions of humans.
I don't think being immortal would also suddenly give you the ability to be a illuminati type character controling world politics, not atleast until you're really, really old and have tons of cash. Even then people wouldn't listen to you, i'm sure they'd find you interesting but this don't mean they want you to be in charge.
Sure, you can try to seize control but you still feel pain, and you can still be chained up and covered in cement.
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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Grab your club, hit her over the head, and drag her back to your cave. The classics are classic for a reason.
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2012/08/16 15:14:32
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Lord-Loss wrote:I don't think ruling an empire or getting involved in politics would be interesting at all after like a few days. Surely, you'd rather spend your time learning, doing lots of drugs, eating and sleeping then dealing with the day to day crap of ruling billions of humans. I don't think being immortal would also suddenly give you the ability to be a illuminati type character controling world politics, not atleast until you're really, really old and have tons of cash. Even then people wouldn't listen to you, i'm sure they'd find you interesting but this don't mean they want you to be in charge. Sure, you can try to seize control but you still feel pain, and you can still be chained up and covered in cement.
That's what I will do when I have my empire. It'll be like Rome...except more decadent. And that stupid probability changer think stops any sort of cement shenanigans.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/08/16 15:15:48
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Veteran ORC
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Lord-Loss wrote:I don't think ruling an empire or getting involved in politics would be interesting at all after like a few days.
Surely, you'd rather spend your time learning, doing lots of drugs, eating and sleeping then dealing with the day to day crap of ruling billions of humans.
I don't think being immortal would also suddenly give you the ability to be a illuminati type character controling world politics, not atleast until you're really, really old and have tons of cash. Even then people wouldn't listen to you, i'm sure they'd find you interesting but this don't mean they want you to be in charge.
Sure, you can try to seize control but you still feel pain, and you can still be chained up and covered in cement.
You don't have to seize control, you just have to make sure those who are against your plans don't.
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2012/08/16 23:10:32
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Just have them shot as anti-Unity dissidents...or publicly discredited.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/16 23:13:42
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Plastictrees
UK
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Tadashi wrote:Just have them shot as anti-Unity dissidents...or publicly discredited.
I don't see how you can get to the point to be able to order someones death. 
Timeline:
Become immortal.
Declare yourself and encourage all countries to take you as their leader to unity humanity.
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Profit?
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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Grab your club, hit her over the head, and drag her back to your cave. The classics are classic for a reason.
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2012/08/16 23:18:46
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Galactic conquest, duh. Progress, enlightenment, unification, accelerated evolution, a golden age of expansion and technological certainty.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/17 00:25:29
Subject: Re:[Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Dakka Veteran
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Tadashi, are you still being serious?
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2012/08/17 02:55:42
Subject: Re:[Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Id say hell yeah in an instant! And who would i make immortal with me? A dog (most likely a Rottweiler), an eternal companion who will be with me threw thick and thin, and who can be a great time killer.
To heck with making another human immortal as i would be a living deity.... i would not need someone getting drunk on power and opposing me and starting a great crusade style apocalypse and essentially killing of the only intelligent race that we know of.
My pocket universe....... thats a tough one
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WAAAHG!!! until further notice
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2012/08/17 03:32:19
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Tunneling Trygon
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I can't say that I personally agree with granting immortality to something that cannot appreciate it. I love animals, but they simply do not number their days in the same way as humans. You do have your point though...
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2012/08/17 06:05:33
Subject: Re:[Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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xole wrote:Tadashi, are you still being serious?
Yup...though personally I'd rather go enjoy myself and just wander the universe for 'interesting tidbits' or troll every other sapient species. Or if Humans get in a heap of trouble with aliens, I'd lay waste to whoever those buggers are.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/17 07:16:46
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Lady of the Lake
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Maybe, though you could probably be like Draigo and end up being entertainment for them.
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2012/08/17 07:33:35
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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n0t_u wrote:Maybe, though you could probably be like Draigo and end up being entertainment for them.
Draigo is most certainly not entertainment - he is an irritant at best, and a nightmare at worst, a lance aimed right at Chaos' heart.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/17 07:35:22
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Lady of the Lake
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I just like to think they just let him go around to entertain them.
Everything he breaks gets fixed shortly after anyway.
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2012/08/17 07:38:25
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Zealous Sin-Eater
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It's pretty much the only way to make him Grimdark, so it's most certainly the correct interpretation (or at least, the one conveyed by the author).
Otherwise he's just boring.
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2012/08/17 07:41:27
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Boring? More like the biggest Ward-based irritant ever made. Now enough about that...as I was saying, as an immortal I'd just just wander the stars and find interesting things and go raise hell on whoever makes trouble for Humans (assuming they can't handle it). Or if Humans accidentally or deliberately send themselves back into a pre-Industrial state, I'll fix it so they can get back to an Interstellar state in a couple of millennia.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/18 04:44:06
Subject: Re:[Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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I would choose Immortality, wait a few millenia then in the 41st millenium become a space marine! 
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2012/08/18 14:05:29
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Or, you know, the Emperor seeing as you have that kind of power.
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
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2012/08/18 14:10:47
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Emperor Tadashi...I like it.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/08/19 02:56:15
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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When was it established that as an immortal youd have crazy psychic powers? I thought the OP just wanted immortality
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2012/08/19 03:03:03
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well I would immortalize one of my friends with me. (Who is a girl)
Then she's stuck with me for forever. Ha jokes on her!
Lord Asherian the Immortal... hmmmm.
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2012/08/19 16:20:59
Subject: [Poll]Is Immortality Worth It?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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 KingCracker wrote:
When was it established that as an immortal youd have crazy psychic powers? I thought the OP just wanted immortality
The whole bending probability thing that came with it in the first post. May not be crazy psychic powers but it's close enough.
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Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
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