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2015/01/08 00:28:23
Subject: Re:Shooting at Satirical magazine in France
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Christianity was also peaceful till it's wider acceptance by ruling classes, and thats really just evidence that Empires and rulers are violent. They'll find one reason or another for fighting.
Ultimately, humans are a violent species. We'll find reasons to kill each other, religion itself isn't violent. It can be a reason, and some are openly violent, but its not a baseline characteristic.
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Grey Templar wrote: Ultimately, humans are a violent species. We'll find reasons to kill each other, religion itself isn't violent. It can be a reason, and some are openly violent, but its not a baseline characteristic.
I think I'm going to go ahead and sig that, it seems that this needs pointing out in OT these days.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
It's very fething rare I agree with something Grey says. That last part though, definitely.
Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
2015/01/08 00:31:36
Subject: Re:Shooting at Satirical magazine in France
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Buddhism's not one of the big 4, you're thinking of Hinduism, and I seem to recall some Gandhi fellow setting a rather convincing non-violence example.
Both Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism deserve the title of “one of the big four” more than Judaism, actually.
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2015/01/08 00:33:05
Subject: Re:Shooting at Satirical magazine in France
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
The big 4 would definitely be Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism. As far as numbers go.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: Regardless of my accuracy of defining the big four, it's silly to question whether there's ever been any peaceful intent in religion whatsoever.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Regardless of my accuracy of defining the big four, it's silly to question whether there's ever been any peaceful intent in religion whatsoever.
Did you not read the posts showing you were wrong?
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
mitch_rifle wrote: It happened with christianity and look how much western civilisation has progressed in the past 500 years. I don't need to follow christianity and openly so and don't have to be worried about being brutally tortured/murdered.
We've gone through our* Reformation/Renaissance. They haven't yet, and are still in the societal equivalent of the Europe's Middle Ages. When they do thing'll mellow.
*And I say 'our' in the full knowledge that my country, the US, Canadia and NZ did not exist as they do today at the time.
As I said, "some" religions are violent. Islam is one of them, but that doesn't mean that violence is a characteristic of religion in general.
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Ben Howe @BenHowe
MSNBC: Falwell Suing Hustler same as Charlie Hebdo Massacare
Spoiler:
Whats the scoop for those who don't have speakers right now?
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Ben Howe @BenHowe
MSNBC: Falwell Suing Hustler same as Charlie Hebdo Massacare
Spoiler:
<---- speechless
The guy next to him... his eyes say it all.
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Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Whats the scoop for those who don't have speakers right now?
The guy seems to be saying that religious fundamentalists of all stripes try to control what you can and can't say, and uses the example of Jerry Falwell suing Hustler magazine.
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Prestor Jon wrote: Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
Whats the scoop for those who don't have speakers right now?
That what these terrorists did is really nothing more than Christian leaders do every day, you know.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Regardless of my accuracy of defining the big four, it's silly to question whether there's ever been any peaceful intent in religion whatsoever.
Did you not read the posts showing you were wrong?
What, the part where you agreed with me? What am I missing?
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
2015/01/08 00:53:34
Subject: Re:Shooting at Satirical magazine in France
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Regardless of my accuracy of defining the big four, it's silly to question whether there's ever been any peaceful intent in religion whatsoever.
Did you not read the posts showing you were wrong?
What, the part where you agreed with me? What am I missing?
The part where I and others pointed out there were indeed religions with peaceful intent.
EDIT: And never mind, and I am sorry. I misread the quote layers in other posts and mistakenly attributed another poster's words to you (in my mind). I am sorry I did so.
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
2015/01/08 00:55:14
Subject: Re:Shooting at Satirical magazine in France
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I'm aware of its ancient origin and original meaning.
Just saying they must have some issues in a post WW2 world.
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daedalus wrote: There've been a handful of them. None quite so... worldwide... though. They certainly haven't attacked people continents away over... well, anything.
And certainly not for drawing a mother fething picture...
Wow, i just saw this and read the thread. Glad they've caught them at least. Is there likely to be a significant response from france after the fact? I guess there's not much to do now but start the clock and see if/when it happens again.
H.B.M.C. wrote: We've gone through our* Reformation/Renaissance. They haven't yet, and are still in the societal equivalent of the Europe's Middle Ages. When they do thing'll mellow.
I'm bringing this back here because Egypt's president just gave a speech in which he said:
I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma* is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.
*"umma" could refer to Eygpt, or the Muslim world itself. That isn't clear from the translation.
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I doubt there is much the French can do beyond what they have done. Its not like this was an attack by a foreign power against the state.
Overall, I hope people, both Muslim and non-Muslim, would realize that radical Islam is not a fringe issue. Its a viewpoint held by a significant portion of all Muslims. Certainly not a majority, but its not the fringe element that many would have you believe. Its also growing.
H.B.M.C. wrote: We've gone through our* Reformation/Renaissance. They haven't yet, and are still in the societal equivalent of the Europe's Middle Ages. When they do thing'll mellow.
I'm bringing this back here because Egypt's president just gave a speech in which he said:
I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma* is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.
*"umma" could refer to Eygpt, or the Muslim world itself. That isn't clear from the translation.
Bravo. This is exactly what needs to be done.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
