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I recently came up with a 500 point list.

To fill up the final points, I had used a 5 man Loota squad. At first I thought maybe these guys wouldn't hack it.
Well I had broke down and bought them and today I got to use them.
I am quite frankly impressed in what they can do, 48" range, up to 3 shots, and well the gun stats aren't to shabby for Orks at least.

On the first turn, I had took out my friend's Assault Squad; he was playing Imperial Guard so eliminating a threat such as an Assault Squad put a grin on my face instantly.

They are one of the best shooting units in the point for point, the only thing they lack is a Boss Pole.

Lootas are essentially 15 point autocannons. And by essentially, I mean are.

I've only used mine once (just recently got them) and I was both so proud and so disappointed in my boyz. First turn shoot them at a Defiler (unit of 4 and 1 mek). Get a 5 on my "how many do I shoot because I'm an ork" roll... so 3 shots a pop. 9 hits. Then proceed to get no glances or pens on AV12 with 9 S7 shots.

I'll have to say they are pretty amazing and unsatisfying at the same time.
They're good and bad, haha.

The_Savior wrote:I'll have to say they are pretty amazing and unsatisfying at the same time.
They're good and bad, haha.

Which means they are 100% orks!

I personally run 2 or 3 5-man squads. I use them simply to glance 'gun tanks' (Vindis, Fire Prisms, Manticores) so that they aren't blowing up boyz. They don't kill much, but they are completely invaluable, and I wouldn't drop them for the world. The amount of punishment that they save my other units from makes them easily worth it. By taking such small squads, it means that they are easy to hide in cover too!

And who knows, sometimes they even kill stuff!

Yes, they are my good sir.

But seeing how good 5 did it makes me wonder how good 15 would do. :O

I faced a unit of 15 in a 750-point game. Pretty much everything they pointed at, evaporated. My opponent also had a Shokk Attack Gun nestled in the unit, and a Kustom Force Field. I got stomped pretty soundly.

I have ran a full set of 45 of them (3 full squads) I firmly believe they ARE the best ork unit.


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For example, if you run 45 of them and get a 5 or 6 on all 3 squads, you get a 135 shots.

They are either fantastic or a complete waste depending on your luck rolling dice. Which means for me... they are a complete waste of points. Which is too bad because they look great on the table and were to total PITA to assemble and paint. Still, I field them frequently assuming that one day my luck will change and they'll actually do something useful.

Gitsplitta wrote:They are either fantastic or a complete waste depending on your luck rolling dice. Which means for me... they are a complete waste of points.

I can't argue with your logic. Especially when building a tournament list. You want a unit you can count on.

However, the following sentence is also valid for me, from a fluff/gaming stand point.

"They are either fantastic or a complete waste depending on your luck rolling dice. Which means for me... they are perfectly orkish!"

touche' kronk.... excellent observation.

With my luck it turns out to be like this: "Dakka, dakka, dakka!" or "Wut? No boom?"

Honestly, it all comes down to play style. Some people want to go for the sure thing, and view a weapon that always has a fixed strength value as being generally superior to one that has a random strength which could be better or worse that the afforementioned 'safe choice.' There isn't anything wrong with this play style, and I would wager it wins more tourneys. However, I take the opinion that since I am already rolling dice ANYWAY, I might as well gamble a little more. Load me up with plasma weapons, lootas, and deep striking units! The dice will hose me as often as they will bless me, so I will have some games where I just get creamed, and some games where every duck lines up in military fashion. For me, it's worth it. It all comes down to how you play.

As Jimsolo said, it comes down to play style.

If you're cool with the randomness, go for it. If you want a standard point buy, there are better choices. If you're playing shooty Orks though, they're pretty much a must.

Me, I have fun with them. I've blown up tanks and wiped infantry squads off the map. I've also let loose with 45 shots and literally hit nothing. Those shooting phases are easy though, none of those pesky rolls to wound to worry on.

If you are anything like my regular ork opponent, you will roll 3 shots every damn turn with them.

They are the best shooty unit available to an ork player.

They can lay down a lot of fire, although with their BS2 you shouldn't rely on them to do everthing. I plan to use them to just thin down the enemy ranks and to provide general fire support, rather than a specific role.

Try taking a unit of 15 of them. Pumping out up to 45 strength 7 shots per turn will clear out just about anything. It's incredible how fast light-medium armor and monstrous creatures can go down.

My, that's a lot of dakka.

Dakka. Dakka everywhere.

I almost always use Lootas, they are the perfect unit to give your army some reach, and with all the mech going around, Orks need all the anti vehicle they can get.

I like units of 15 the best, as even at minimum fire they have a good chance of causing some damage.

Well of course the more you have will put out more damage.

But they are truly great.

They miss...alot.

Jaon wrote:They miss...alot.

No more than any other Orks, which means 2/3 of the time. Orks are an army of terrible shots with great guns.

they are pretty good. Once using 8 lootas I rolled the D3 and got a six, followed by what became 12 hits, and 12 wounds aggainst korne berzerkers. only problem was that the power armor worked on all shots

the lesson? deffgunz are way better if they are ap3! (not that they should of course )

They can be great but easily pushed to the point of redundancy in max/min lists. I like to keep a unit of 10-15 sitting in cover at the back of my footslogging ork army, because they don't get much attention and can do a hell of a lot of damage.
I took a unit of fourteen to my last tournament... I didn't lose a single model until the fourth game, and they easily paid for themselves.

Best unit going for anti-armor (make Tankbustas totally useless). Their positioning is critical, though. With no bosspole, 12+ is pretty much required per squad. They drop rhinos easily, as well as daemon princes. A good wound-pusher on things like Thunderwolves due to their high str. If you play with Imperial Armour 8, they can take a lotoed wagon as dedicated trans, so jsut sit them in the open top wagon and fire all day. Keep them high up in area terrain to easy cotnact with cavalry. I used 3x10 squads before. But I think less squads, more members is better if you do use ruins, as Line of sight can be limited.

I am currently of the opinion that 2 smaller units are more useful than 1 maxed size unit.

Arcs of fire and target allocation mean that my 2 units of 7 had a good deal to take down last game.

15 hitting the same rhino or landspeeder and killing it after the 1st 3 hits are worked out, if you've got 6 hits, is a redundancy you don't really need imo.

Also smaller units and having two instead of one means pieplates don't do so much, your opponent has to weigh up target allocation and when one unit finally breaks/gets stuck in melee/gets wiped out, you still have the other to avenge them.

I agree with MeanGreen.

As you increase the squad numbers your average number of shots is less up to the FragYou the god of dice and more to common statistics. Lotta good 15 shots will do from your "All eggs in one Basket" squad, as compared to a squad of ten getting three and the other getting one. 40 shots

Also if you have multiple squads you don't have to worry bout losing all of them in one turn. a 6+ armour save is not so toasty... but if you dont have some form of cover you already have chosen that they wont live.

I always love lootas because for the to hit roll I always roll over two thirds of them as hits, which normally levels entire units

Sadly I only have 5 and well, with conformation from my friends and opponents I tell them that my 5 Burnas are Lootas. So I usually have 2 untis of 5. Regardless They either do good in numbers, good in small doses or just plain ol' bad