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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 12:54:31
Subject: Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Hey I had this question come up in a game. A Rhino uses its smoke launchers, and therefore cotton wool is placed around the vehicle. Then a unit fired through the cotton wool and the unit next to the Rhino gets a cover save. Note that without the "smoke" the unit would have been fully visible. Is the cotton just a marker and ignored or does it affect LOS?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 12:55:43
Subject: Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Entirely ignored. It is simply to mark what effect the vehicle has in place on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 12:56:14
Subject: Re:Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Technically I guess they shouldn't get a save - but if putting cotton wool around the vehicle hides them, technically they are hidden and thus can't be shot at.
That begs the next question though, how big was the bit of cotton wool you used?!?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 12:58:03
Subject: Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
the wool is just a marker, it's ignored... or else i could cover the table in wool and your guys can't see anything.
the official GW marker is a small green token...
Panic...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 14:35:00
Subject: Re:Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Ignored is what I thought as well.
The smoke was about 2" wide placed around the rhino to cover a disembarked squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 15:52:17
Subject: Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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That is just flat out cheating; the above post.
The BRB says to place some cotton as a marker to indicate that the vehicle has popped smoke, it does not state that anything else on the table is in any way effected by the smoke.
And to put said "smoke" 2" out from the vehicle specifically to cover a squad is just blatant tom-foolery.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/12 15:54:31
Subject: Re:Do smoke launchers affect LOS?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kel's right.
The smoke gives the vehicle a cover save.
It doesn't affect anything else on the board in any way.
To give disembarking or nearby troops a cover save as well is... well, cheating is a strong word, but it's certainly misinterpreting a set of very clear and concise rules - intentionally or no.
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