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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11027568

Please, please, please tell me this is wrong? If not then it scares me that with all the media available you still have people who think this.

Plenty of people believe all sorts of stupid things.

You also have to consider the sample the statistic is taken from and also what question(s?) were asked and how.

Forty-three per cent of those questioned said they did not know what Mr Obama's religion was

or care most probably.

I'm always a bit dubious about polls like this, not least as I think pollsters (sp ? is that even a word ?) significantly fail to account for people who deliberately lie or give out false answers.

Does it really matter what religion he believes in?

heacy hitter wrote:Does it really matter what religion he believes in?

I think the point is that he is clearly a Christian, yet a large number of people believe him to be a Muslim, rather than his actual religion being important for its own sake.

Of course it does. He's the American president, not the benevolent leader of some bizarre land that celebrates freedom and tolerance.

reds8n wrote:

Forty-three per cent of those questioned said they did not know what Mr Obama's religion was

or care most probably.

I'm always a bit dubious about polls like this, not least as I think pollsters (sp ? is that even a word ?) significantly fail to account for people who deliberately lie or give out false answers.

I've never understood why this is such a big deal anyhow. I'm no legal scholar, but I'm pretty sure there is no law in the U.S. constitution limiting what religious beliefs the president of the United States can hold.

I know plenty of people who are not big fans of the Obama administration, but none of the ones I take seriously believe that the president follows Islam. I am another person who always does a Roger Moore eyebrow lift whenever I hear things like this. Polls could be affected by the political affiliations of the pollsters, the sampling methodology of the pollsters, and any number of things.

Its anecdotal, but from my experience I would find it hard to believe 20%. I think the man is a Methodist, but I really don't know. Most U.S. presidents have been Episcopalian ( basically Anglican).

That may explain why 43% of the population don't know what his religion is. They maybe assume he is a Christian, but are unaware of his denomination?

Wolfstan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11027568

Please, please, please tell me this is wrong? If not then it scares me that with all the media available you still have people who think this.

And why would the media help. If that really is the case, then I imagine mass media is part of the problem.

What I noticed from tha article is that Eid falls on the 11th September this year. I hope that any Eid celebrations are restrained enough to avoid reprisal attacks.

This was on the radio earlier, i'm sure they also mentioned a proportion of americans also believe he is not an american citizen!

deejaybainbridge wrote:This was on the radio earlier, i'm sure they also mentioned a proportion of americans also believe he is not an american citizen!

This was one of the more ridiculous scare-campaigns that came up during the election.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:This was on the radio earlier, i'm sure they also mentioned a proportion of americans also believe he is not an american citizen!

This was one of the more ridiculous scare-campaigns that came up during the election.

Now i'm not clued up on american politics, i dont know ours that well to be fair. But i dont see how a non-american could become the president. Is it even possible for such a thing to happen?

deejaybainbridge wrote:Now i'm not clued up on american politics, i dont know ours that well to be fair. But i dont see how a non-american could become the president. Is it even possible for such a thing to happen?

I'm pretty sure they had to change the rules in order to let the Terminator rule California, so I would imagine a similar thing would need to occur in order for a "non-American" (ie someone who was not born in America) to run for President.

SilverMK2 wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:Now i'm not clued up on american politics, i dont know ours that well to be fair. But i dont see how a non-american could become the president. Is it even possible for such a thing to happen?

I'm pretty sure they had to change the rules in order to let the Terminator rule California, so I would imagine a similar thing would need to occur in order for a "non-American" (ie someone who was not born in America) to run for President.

Ah but did he not take the citizenship test or something? You can become a citizen even if you were not born in the country if you have lived in the states a certain amount of time and can prove you know about american history and culture. Well thats what the Simpsons has taught me, so i could be way off the mark however.

I'm sure they also believe he's socialist....Seriously, just kill these people. These are the same people who don't want to pay taxes and oppose abortions..People are so stupid I could laugh..I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

I didn't think it would matter what any of the puppets...erm...politions belived in as they are all lead along on a lesh by the megacorps. Only money is eternal our souls are fletting

Samus_aran115 wrote:I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Must suck to be the black sheep though.

deejaybainbridge wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

deejaybainbridge wrote:This was on the radio earlier, i'm sure they also mentioned a proportion of americans also believe he is not an american citizen!

This was one of the more ridiculous scare-campaigns that came up during the election.

Now i'm not clued up on american politics, i dont know ours that well to be fair. But i dont see how a non-american could become the president. Is it even possible for such a thing to happen?

No.

I'm pretty sure they had to change the rules in order to let the Terminator rule California

I don't think they did, cf; John G. Downey.

Ah but did he not take the citizenship test or something? You can become a citizen even if you were not born in the country if you have lived in the states a certain amount of time and can prove you know about american history and culture

Doesn't matter, the USA president has to be , so to speak, a "native son" ( or daughter), so Arnold could never be the President.

Unless they change the Constituition of course, but I don't think there's exactly a massive clamour for them to do so. I believe there have been bills related to such in the past but.. well... ain't broke don't fix it.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I'm sure they also believe he's socialist....Seriously, just kill these people. These are the same people who don't want to pay taxes and oppose abortions..People are so stupid I could laugh..I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Because anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid? Do you think that there are some people out there who want lower taxes but have no problem with abortions? Or perhaps, there are people who don't like the idea of abortion, but want more government services and are willing to be taxed for it?

Socialist is somewhat a matter of perspective and definition.

So we should kill people who aren't rational? I guess that is the logical end result of enlightenment thought. Just look at the French Revolution.

Really

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Must suck to be the black sheep though.

What? Don't be a gak-head dude.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I'm sure they also believe he's socialist....Seriously, just kill these people.

Funny, I was thinking we should do the same thing with people that steal models at their LGS.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Must suck to be the black sheep though.

Ha! I love a good lol in the morning.

OT:

I'm not sure why it matters. The people who are so inclined to think whatever negative(in their mind, anyway) thing about B-Rock probably weren't going to vote for him anyway. They should have just said "Hardcore Conservative Base Doesn't Like Democrat President."

Ribon Fox wrote:I didn't think it would matter what any of the puppets...erm...politions belived in as they are all lead along on a lesh by the megacorps. Only money is eternal our souls are fletting

Anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy by the government to create a socialist America must be an idiot, but there definitely is a conspiracy by "mega corporations" to control politicians?


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Samus_aran115 wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Must suck to be the black sheep though.

What? Don't be a gak-head dude.

Well, you can't fit people in little boxes that are labeled, "liberal", "conservative", "democrat", etc.

Grignard wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I'm sure they also believe he's socialist....Seriously, just kill these people. These are the same people who don't want to pay taxes and oppose abortions..People are so stupid I could laugh..I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Because anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid? Do you think that there are some people out there who want lower taxes but have no problem with abortions? Or perhaps, there are people who don't like the idea of abortion, but want more government services and are willing to be taxed for it?

Socialist is somewhat a matter of perspective and definition.

So we should kill people who aren't rational? I guess that is the logical end result of enlightenment thought. Just look at the French Revolution.

No, because they believe any old lie that anyone tells them, even though they don't bother to increase their understanding of important concepts beyond that.

Those were two different concepts, both of which are silly. We need taxes and people should be free to make their lives easier. I'm sure you could tell I wasn't talking about a group of people that exercise their opinion on both issues together.

Poor choice of words on my part. I'd never want people to die just because of their opinions.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:I never realized how lucky I am to come from a family of smart, rational people...

Must suck to be the black sheep though.

What? Don't be a gak-head dude.

I apologise if my joke offended you. It was not intended to be anything more than harmless fun. I can assure you that, unlike in my previous post, I am being completely serious.

Thinks thats bad look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

Grignard wrote:

Well, you can't fit people in little boxes that are labeled, "liberal", "conservative", "democrat", etc.

You can once you've shot them.



I think the "black sheep" comment was intended to be a bit of light hearted banter, not an attack. Easy misunderstanding, and no hamrs been done. Alright ?

Oh, and can we please not turn this into a LOL@DUMB AMERICAN/BRITISH/COUNTRY OF YOUR CHOICE thread. Those are so very passe.

*Lichtenstein joke*

Alright, sorry ^.^

Good man.

..errr.. or lady.