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Bolter Beach II is being planned for the last weekend of January 2011. They will be making some changes to the previous format borrowing some ideas from the good fellows over at BoLS and Mike Brandt of the NOVA Open. What you can expect are more great missions, another awesome team tournament and lots and lots of prize support again. They are going to try to get the event on the GW circuit so they can give out some more Golden Tickets to Las Vegas for the upcoming Throne of Skulls GT.

The winter is the best time to visit us here in Florida as the weather is fantastic that time of the year. One of our goals is to double our attendance this time around so start making plans now. Everyone is welcome to attend !

Changes
• This time around there will be no soft scoring for army composition.
• The second day of the GT we will split the players into two groups so that everyone has the opportunity to win an award.
• Hard scores will be based upon your battle points (primary, secondary and tertiary plus some tactical bonuses) and your strength of showing. Strength of showing will be based upon how well you perform against each of your opponents so you'll score extra battle points when you defeat a higher ranked opponent.

These changes will help to create a more competitive event while still rewarding players for good conduct during your games.

More news soon to follow !

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The above is an edited version of the news post for this. I attended Bolter Beach in June and had a fantastic time there. I'm not affiliated with the people running the tournament, but I wanted to get the word out there so people can start planning to attend if they're interested.

Lorek wrote:Bolter Beach II is being planned for the last weekend of January 2011. They will be making some changes to the previous format borrowing some ideas from the good fellows over at BoLS and Mike Brandt of the NOVA Open.

Changes
• This time around there will be no soft scoring for army composition.

Glad they're changing this- would have gone last year but for this.

• Hard scores will be based upon your battle points (primary, secondary and tertiary plus some tactical bonuses) and your strength of showing. Strength of showing will be based upon how well you perform against each of your opponents so you'll score extra battle points when you defeat a higher ranked opponent.

::cautiously optimistic ork::
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The aim for Bolter beach will be transparency along with simple yet challenging missions. Were still deciding on the mission structure if we want to do W/L or P/S/T. But the main concern for the event is to cater to all gamers casual and competitive.

Strength of showing will be based upon how well you perform against each of your opponents so you'll score extra battle points when you defeat a higher ranked opponent.

This type of system will punish the guy at the top of the pack, the guys that are winning thier games. Sounds good to break ties


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You can sign me up, i look forward to defending my crown.

stormboy97 wrote:Strength of showing will be based upon how well you perform against each of your opponents so you'll score extra battle points when you defeat a higher ranked opponent.

This type of system will punish the guy at the top of the pack, the guys that are winning thier games. Sounds good to break ties


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You can sign me up, i look forward to defending my crown.

The Nova Open was high vs low seed to discourage "submarining" into the top; is this going to be high vs high?

Yeah, I'll be interested to see how that's actually implemented... Using Strength of Schedule as a tie-breaker in the case of multiple undefeated players is a decent use of SoS, but scoring additional points based on how an opponent is ranked seems difficult to do on a round by round basis (if players A and B are playing each other, they should probably have the same record, in which case the 'bonus points" for ranking don't mean much).

Greetings all,

Here is the main forum for Bolter Beach. All questions can be answered there and directly from the TO himself.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-6126-0-Bolter-Beach.htm

Cool- thanks, thehod!

your the best HOD

Cool, I'm liking the format.

I don't understand the format; could someone elaborate for me in simple words?

@ Dash

Win your games, face tougher opponents, get bragging rights.

For those who are hobby oriented: opportunities for prizes with random drawings, theme awards, an overall award, painting awards.

Mission structure is still being worked out. Strength of Schedule is based on how well your opponents do and is added up at the end of the tournament.

So easy, even an Ork can understand

please submit all queries to http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-6126-0-Bolter-Beach.htm we have the organizers there atleast twice a day ready to answer any questions.


Note: In the upcoming months, there will be playtest missions released to the community. There will be no surprises.

Eagerly awaiting more details- we need more good events in the Southeast.

thehod wrote:@ Dash

Win your games, face tougher opponents, get bragging rights.

I got that part. That one is easy enough.

thehod wrote:

Mission structure is still being worked out. Strength of Schedule is based on how well your opponents do and is added up at the end of the tournament.

That's the part I didn't get.

Example:
I play a game and win, and get 20 battlepoints.

My next game, I'm paired against someone who also has as close to 20 battlepoints as possible? I win and get 20 more battlepoints.

Now I have 40 battlepoints, and this is the part confusing to me. Are there battlepoints being awarded to the winners of games based on their overall rankings (and subsequent pairings?) So if I'm ranked #2 in battlepoints and fight against the #1 ranked battlepoint holder, and he beats me, does he get like 10 extra battlepoints? If I beat him, do I get 11 extra battlepoints?

That's the part I'm not picking up.

Hell, I didn't understand the Nova missions either, which is why I did so poorly my first game; I misunderstood how points were awarded. =p

@Dash

Player A (not the player A of Dakka fame) plays 5 games and wins 4

Player B played Player A and would get an extra +4 points for strength of schedule from player A.

Its ok, some concepts are hard to understand for the Ork minded.


To break it down for my mathematically inclined friends:

PA + PB + PC + PD + PE = x (P = player)

4 + 3 + 2 + 3 + 1 = 13 points for SoS.

I'm just confused about what purpose they serve. Tiebreakers for the undefeated players after X rounds?

And there could be complications- if a player goes undefeated, but one of his early round opponents drops, he gets gimped on points?

If there's an uneven (pairings-wise) number of players, you could have a 3-0 player playing a 2-1 player--- that 3-0 player is automatically at a disadvantage relative to the other 3-0 players based on bonus points.

People rarely drop out but in the case they do, any games they did not play counts as a loss for SoS. SoS will only be factored in when it comes to dead ties at the end of the tournament.

The strength of schedule idea is similar to a system we are using to break unlikely ties in seeding, qualification and awards in the Championships at AdeptiCon this year (although we are not using Battle Points, so no need for bonus points are anything). I like it.

I think it a solid idea when looking at a larger field and will really shine through after 8 rounds. We ran a sort of pre-primer last weekend, but with 18 players/4 rounds the need to resort to a tiebreaker wasn't really necessary, but in theory and practice, you could see it would be beneficial. I suppose the hope is that tiebreakers are not even required, but a SoS idea sort of guarantees you a nice final separator.

Draft Championships rules are finished - being released tomorrow.

Looking forward to seeing the missions.

Website up

http://www.bolterbeach.com/

@Matthias

You are one of the unsung heroes of Adepticon. I honestly feel that you are for creating a better event every year. I just hope more people recognize what you do.

Checked out your link. I'm still confused what army comp actually accomplishes in this format. Is it to prevent spamming? From my understanding, if a player just adds a cheap piece of kit or changes the number in a squad from 5 to 6 for example, then that could meet that particular army comp requirement.

The site hasnt been updated yet. There will be NO comp for Bolter Beach 2011.

Mission 1 posted and some rules for the missions

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-6126-4134-0-Test-Mission.htm

Remember all these are preliminary rules and are subject to change.

are you guys using VP instead of/more than KP then?

Were looking at the possibility of missions that feature KP while others feature VP and of course tiebreakers will come down to VP.

Mission: Sand Castles

Pre-Deployment
Each player places one objective in their deployment zone.

Deployment
Pitched Battle

Who goes First
Players roll off 1d6 to see who has the choice to deploy first and go first. Seize Initiative is in play.

Game Length
Random game length (on a roll of 3+ on 1d6 the game goes to Turn 6, on a roll of 4+ on 1d6 the game goes to Turn 7. DICE DOWN when time is called.

Mission Special Rules
• Infiltrate, Reserves, Deep Strike, Scouts
• Outflank (p. 94 WH40k rulebook)
• You may attempt to Seize the Initiative (p. 92 WH40k rulebook)
• X-treme sports - Choose one unit in your army. They are extreme sports enthusiasts whom have honed their skills on the battlefield. Choose one of the extreme sports activities from the following list:
* Spelunking - They are known for traversing caves -
Move through Cover USR
* Rally Racing - They are experts behind the wheel -
Skillful Rider USR
* Surfing - It takes a lot of guts to surf in dangerous waters -
Stubborn USR
* Sky Diving - They love jumping out of a perfectly good flyer -
Deep Strike USR

Note that if you select a unit with a dedicated transport this unit can use the Sky Diving rule and you can attach independent characters to this unit in reserve.

Mission Goals
The primary goal and win condition is Capture and Control; i.e., control more objectives than your opponent at the end of the game. Only scoring units can hold an objective. If both players control the same number of objectives at the end of the game then go to the 1st Tie Breaker:

First Tie Breaker is having more scoring units in your opponent's deployment zone than yours.

Second Tie Breaker is killpoints. If both players have the same number of killpoints then go to the final Tie Breaker.

The Final Tie Breaker is pure victory points.

The site has been updated. checkout www.bolterbeach.com

Is the 3000 point armies for Warhammer 40k a typo?

"Ok after ton’s of soul searching and communing with the chaos god’s , we are dropping composition and sportsmanship. Bo his. it just dose not work, most players give each other max regardless or people ding every one to better there chance of winning. i will promises big an ass hat will still get you kicked out though, *ahem*Pete.

Scoring will be win or loss. and scenarios will be either objective based or kill point based but at the end there will be just win or loss. "

You need to spell/grammar check the website. Since this is a business venture, you need to present paragraphs more legibly than the above quote. I realize the irony in me being the one to point that out but reading the page I quoted was simply painful.

Okay so after tons of soul searching and communing with the Chaos Gods we have decided to drop both composition and sportsmanship. We will be watching though if you decide to behave like an ass hat. Generally speaking you will be given one to two warnings if your conduct is poor. If you then continue to cause problems you'll be told to leave. It's just that simple.

Scoring will be win or loss per round. Scenarios will have one primary objective for the win condition (for example, kill points or table quarters) and there will be three tie breakers. The third and final tie breaker is always decided by pure victory points. There are sample missions posted.

We have also given a lot of thought about using Strength of Schedule (SoS) as a final tie breaker if necessary to be applied after the last round. For SoS you award each player bonus points based on the W/L records for all their opponents. For the sake of example suppose player A faces players D, E and K in a three round tournament:

player D – 0W/3L
player E – 1W/2L
player K – 2W/1L

So player A would score 3 bonus points to be used as a tie breaker. SoS brackets 2nd, 3rd and lower places. 1st place is determined solely by your overall W/L record and there will be enough rounds to ensure this is the final outcome.

On the second day the players will be split into two groups. The top players from the first day will play for best overall champion while the second group will also have an overall winner.

This system is modeled using the NOVA Open system and BOLScon, both of which have proven to be both very successful and popular across the country.

We will use all current Errata and FAQs written by Games Workshop. Also note that the 40k GT will be 2000 points.

If you have any questions please contact the site administration.



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warboss wrote:

You need to spell/grammar check the website. Since this is a business venture, you need to present paragraphs more legibly than the above quote. I realize the irony in me being the one to point that out but reading the page I quoted was simply painful.

Thanks for pointing out some of the typos. I notified the site admin about the grammar.

Why use the Wargames Con consolidation bracket style split if you are not using Battle Points? If your missions will be pure W/L then your field will naturally have that separation built into it going into day 2. Your overall winner will be undefeated - all you need at that point is to find a way to award another player that is not based wholly on their W/L record....like the NOVA system, but that would require you adding some soft scoring elements back into the mix.

What does the consolidation bracket serve other than to keep people playing? Events designed to find a single winner via a W/L format are always going to leave a ton of people in the dust. They know what they are getting into.

Does your W/L record carry over to Day 2 or is the Day 2 consolidation bracket considered a completely new event (made up of people who failed to qualify for main event)?

I like the simple Strength of Schedule - similar to what we are using at AdeptiCon. I think still 'placing' people like #1-#64 or whatever is a good thing to do. People are used to seeing that based on the Battle Points system. Most players looking at a bunch of W-L records won't really have a good feel for how they placed in regards to the overall field. This system at least gives them a partial answer.

How much time per round?

The front page of the Bolter Beach site still says 3000 points for the 40K event.