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Well first of this is a a doubles project for myself and Constantines fluff. We're basing our armies off the two lost legions, also if you like the lost legions and would like to participate in building them please go here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310851.page

Hope you enjoy,
KmoH

You can find info on Angels of Salvation here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/313694.page
Let me tell you what we have for my legion:
Angels of Salvation were the 2nd, of the original twenty, Space Marine Legions.Their primarch is Constantine.Legion strenth is 100 000 marines.Angels of Salvation are split into brotherhoods, each brotherhood has its own painting scheme
Here is Angels of Salvation Tactical marine:

What if Constantine and Allister Khaine led 101 expedition together during great crusade thats why they have relations as brothers have.

Lennysmash wrote:Two brothers, one has the gift of prophecy, he see the great betrayer and convinces his brother to take action. After trying to convince the Emperor and failing they move against Horus anyway. The Emperor intervenes and stands with Horus against them. They take the remainder of their forces out past the fringes of known space. Where they encounter the galaxies of the Tyranids. This can be used to explain the arrival of the Tyranids into the known galaxies. They return to fight the great devourer but with their honour slighted refuse to bow to the Imperium.

Rough bones might help, might not. Either way its fluff safe and allows you both a lot of leeway to create new allies and wargear that have never been seen before.

What do you guys think of these idea???
I find it cool

I had a crazy idea. My chapter Children of Eden's quest is to reach other galaxies and learn from other cultures, the Emporer lets Allister (primarch) leave and go on the voyage to other galaxies after being advised of the troubles involved by the Adeptus Machanicus. In order to ensure his sons safety he deletes the records of his existence. Allister works with the Eldar to find a form of inter galactic travel, which he eventually does. He leads his men and the Eldar on this new ship and sets a plot for a random galaxy. When they arrive everything is demented, iits a mirror world and hell combined. He's seperated from his legion and they eventually escape except for his honour guard which are also his best friends.

In the mirror /hell world he is faced to go through 5 dimensions of terror. War, Plague, Change and Lust (Chaos). When he finishes he enters the last dimension... Himself, there he battles the terrors from his nightmares until he wins, Tyranids being one of these. When he finally defeats his inner demons he escapes back to his own world to see that the heresy has been commited. From there He rebuilds his army and forms an alliance with the Angels of Salvation.

My chapter is descended from a Knight's Templar Founding Legion. But we are always seen as Different from the other chapters. Seen as Soldiers of an age long ago. That once had soldiers that did more than just fight...
Of course I love the history for this lost legion... My Chapter has very similar principles. Would be interesting to see if My chapter was descended from this Legion ^.^ That means this legion lore= FTW

Two brothers, one has the gift of prophecy, he see the great betrayer and convinces his brother to take action. After trying to convince the Emperor and failing they move against Horus anyway. The Emperor intervenes and stands with Horus against them. They take the remainder of their forces out past the fringes of known space. Where they encounter the galaxies of the Tyranids. This can be used to explain the arrival of the Tyranids into the known galaxies. They return to fight the great devourer but with their honour slighted refuse to bow to the Imperium.

Rough bones might help, might not. Either way its fluff safe and allows you both a lot of leeway to create new allies and wargear that have never been seen before.

Nice to see that Asherian please feel free to submit any fluff to the project


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Lennysmash wrote:Two brothers, one has the gift of prophecy, he see the great betrayer and convinces his brother to take action. After trying to convince the Emperor and failing they move against Horus anyway. The Emperor intervenes and stands with Horus against them. They take the remainder of their forces out past the fringes of known space. Where they encounter the galaxies of the Tyranids. This can be used to explain the arrival of the Tyranids into the known galaxies. They return to fight the great devourer but with their honour slighted refuse to bow to the Imperium.

Rough bones might help, might not. Either way its fluff safe and allows you both a lot of leeway to create new allies and wargear that have never been seen before.

How come any time I go on to a thread that post is there

The real problem is that even eldars cant travel among galaxies.Only tyranids can.There is no such technology to leave this galaxy according to the fluff.

Can't really submit anything. I can't really add stuff to a legion lore. I can make my lore of a chapter but definitely not of a entire legion. But My Chapter could be descended from one of the lost legions as we found a fortress in the Fa Galatic North-East Filled with geneseed and technological wonders lost after the Horus Hersey. So basically... My Chapter used the geneseed and have changed completely. But i do think one of the lost legions is a Knights Templar approach to a Space Marine Legion. And it's brother chapter is an Asian Take on it.
As the black templars and the Dark angels are nothing like the Knights Templar. As they never mention a 13th anywhere.
Well We don't know much about galactic travel. Probably because after the astronicman failed basically the entire galaxy went weird.

Asherian you can say that your chapter was founded by last loyal marine of 2nd legion.

Ive been Working Fluff for a missing legion also http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310304.page

Its not my thread but ive fallen in love with writing and drawing breath into this legion The Emperors Shields.. just skim through the rough draft and think tanking and you will get an idea of what we have been trying to do

Constantine wrote:Asherian you can say that your chapter was founded by last loyal marine of 2nd legion.

Yeah Could of been Asherian Himself
Oh the wonders. But Too bad Asherian in my lore is then killed off by Ahriman. As Ahriman finds out that Asherian has a book from the black library.
Asherian could of been one of the last ones who formed a chapter, and left for the planet where he exactly knew where it would be. Then he's student later on Malnar would carry the secert of their origins. Damn that is one hell of a plot twist Thank you dakkadakka!

Asherian could be the third brother that was never accepted as a primarch.

Primarchs weren't initiated they were created by the Emperor, so thinking on it a little more technically all the Primarchs are brothers of a sort.

Lennysmash wrote:Primarchs weren't initiated they were created by the Emperor, so thinking on it a little more technically all the Primarchs are brothers of a sort.

True True very True...


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kravus master of Horus wrote:Asherian could be the third brother that was never accepted as a primarch.

This wouldn't be accepted By A LOT of PEOPLE Reason Being there are 20 primarchs and there have been 20 primarchs since the game and fluff has begun....And there were only 2 slots that have not been filled and if they have been at one point in past have been removed...But i am not trying to knock ideas down or nothing i am not trying to be an ass...i Think one thing that could of happend when the forces of chaos sprited away the infant primarchs maybe they also took a primordial prototype Astarte infant with them and one of the primarchs were found with a assumed brother...

I am willing to accept my Character as a brother to a primarch. This made me so happy. People offering to improve my lore is good!
I need to make more profiles for my characters.

What if your Chapter dont know their primarch.Once they get information that they belong to 2nd legion and their primarch left imperium to create utopia.They ask Lords of Terra to allow them to find their primarch but their request was denied.They are full of hate leave imperium looking for their warmaster.

Constantine wrote:What if your Chapter dont know their primarch.Once they get information that they belong to 2nd legion and their primarch left imperium to create utopia.They ask Lords of Terra to allow them to find their primarch but their request was denied.They are full of hate leave imperium looking for their warmaster.

[spoiler]You then hunted like a dog [spoiler]

Constantine wrote:What if your Chapter dont know their primarch.Once they get information that they belong to 2nd legion and their primarch left imperium to create utopia.They ask Lords of Terra to allow them to find their primarch but their request was denied.They are full of hate leave imperium looking for their warmaster.

Highly imporable espically if my chapter has great connections with the Inquistion. But only because we pledged are loyalty to them. Were not hunted.
Either that or they lost records of it. And don't remember who the hell my chapter is. Because my chapter has changed its name twice. And its color has changed at least 7 times

@ vignor: A lot of people, including GW, would argue that there are 21 Primarchs... If you're lost then take a look at some of the Horus Heresey books, they're a pretty good read.

@ Asherian: The Inquisition doesn't even have "strong ties" with the Inqusition. There is so much infighting in the fluff\lore that you could get away with being blood-oath alies with one faction and soul-damning enemies of another in the same battlefield. You know who else changed their name and their color scheme twice? The Luna Wolves...

yeah but we changed our colors 6 times.
2 times
Storm Knights, Storm Blades, Storm Crusaders

Bad flame war is bad. Please no more.

Am I flaming sorry. My bad didn't know i was flaming till it was too late. D:
But I like the story of having my chapter belong to one of the lost legions.

Sweet, now lets hear your fluff Mr.Asherian

uhhh. Are you sure?
All of it?
Vignor just went through and got somestuff. So far my Chapter is a little too perfect. I'm going to give them a flaw.
Chapter Name: Storm Crusaders

Founding: Second Founding

Chapter Master: Grand Templar Calnor Alrnia and Asherian

Battle Cry: (need one )
Chapter no: 124

Chapter Symbol: Angel of Time

Homeworld: Drancoris Sector.

Number of Compaines: 50

Geneseed: (expunged)

The Storm Crusaders are a massive chapter containing at least 6,000 Space Marines. (inculdes every space marine, except scouts.) Due to its large size it is often sent on campagians, that are long and bloody. The Chapter is orgainized into compaines like normal space marine chapters but this chapter differs in its names and its orginzation of its compainies. The 2-5 Compaines are Battle Compaines, that are usually sent on campagians in the Ghoul Stars, the 6th-9 compaines are reserve compaines that protect the fortress Monestary from harm. The 10th,14,16,17,18th,19th,20th,22nd and the 23rd are all Campagianing Companies, These are the main bulk of the chapter, but unlike battle compaines they specialize in a certain type of Battle Brother (Devastor and Assualt Squad). For Example the 10th Company Nicknamed the Iron Wolves by other Imperail Orgainzations has 4 Tactical Squads, 3 Assualt Squads, and 3 Devastor Squads. Compared to the 20th company which consists of 4 Tactical, 4 Devastors, and 2 Assualt Squads. All of the companies are very indepedent from the Chapter, each company holds a fortress or Outpost in which to recurit more troops for the chapter and their company. The reason why none of the compaines that are above do not have any numerals passing 31 is that the rest of the chapter that is the 31st-50th compaines are all Crusading Compaines.

Unlike Most Chapters the Storm Crusaders have 5 Elite Compaines. They are orgainized into these 5 orgianzations, they so follow, the 15th The Guardians-The Defenders of the Storm Crusader's Fortress Monestary. Alpha Squadron has no company marking but is instead the special forces of the chapter, as their name dicates they deal with some of the most fearsome oppenents in the gaxaly. (Bascially DeathWatch but in the chapter instead). The 31st Company is the Brothers of the Sword, a large company only consisting of Vanguard and SternGuard Veterans. The 21st Company is a company only consisting of Termiantors. And finnaly the 1st Company Consisting of a Mix between Vanguard, Sternguard, and Terminators.

The Chapter History!
The Second Founding-The Chapter is formed into the Dusk Legion.

The First War-no offical name exists of its history, the Dusk Legion is attacked by chaos forces, Asherain put into stasis

The Refounding-The Chapter is renamed and remodeled after their First Chapter Master Asherain.

The Second War-Grand Commander Malnar leds defence of Drancrois and defeats the (SUPPRESSED) Empire, all knowledge of the event has been wiped

-Alpha Squadron Formed-

The Grimnar Campagin- Malnar Is killed in the Campagin, offical knowledge is lost after the third war

The Crusades- The Storm Crusaders are Recolored and renamed to better fit the standards put on them, the chapter is split and the compaines act indepedently

The Third War- Grand Templar (SUPPRESSED) leads an attack on a Orc Warlord, Orc Warlord retalitates and fights agianst the Drancorain Empire

Discovery- Long lost Technology found in The Vaults, Geneseed (SUPPRESSED) also found.

The Lost Campagain- Arrival of Calnor Alrnia in the Chapter, Calnor Quickly masters and 150 years in the chapter and He joins Alpha Squadron

The Fourth War- Grand Templar Malis is killed in combat, Calnor Alrnia is named his successor, Loken and his 10th company fight off 10,000 Cultists.

The Fifth War-Tyranid Infestation, Tyranid hive fleet attacks. Hive Fleet Successfully destoried.

The Sixth War- Ongoing war.. No Current news
The 10th company!

The 10th company is lead by Captain Loken Malicith, a tactican and a great warrior. His 10th Company are his elite warriors that would follow him to the pits of hell itself. Loken is a strange figure in that he is very "human" his emotion spikes at times and can be seen as a juvenile compared to his older battle brothers. The 10 Segearnts under his command are all warriors without peer and most of them specialize in the way of the sword, the company usually takes to the field in an armored assualt. The 10th company is known as the Iron Wolves, this name shows with their usual tactic of an armored assualt and ambushes.

The 2 leaders dispatched with Loken are Chief Libarian Talnar and Chaplain Roquir. Chief Libarian Talnar is one of 5 Chief Libarian's who maintain the chapter's massive libariarus. Chaokaub Roquir is loken's tutor and trainier, the Chaplain is also the oldest living member in the 10th Company.

Following the 10th Company to war is former 1st Company Captain Garane. Garane is entombed in a Dreadnought, due to his venerable status he is never put out into the front lines, but he does usually ignore this and fights in the fronts of battle.

The 10ths Tactical Squads all are equiped with anti infantry weaponry. The two leading tactical squads are Lucius and Logar. Lucius is a swordsmen with intellgence and tactical intuition, Logar is the shoot first ask questions later type of Segreant. The last Two Segerants are Valicorn and Brother Segerant Kalin. Valicorn is a swordsmen as well but he is mostly known for his skills with a storm bolter, he has accounted for 20 marksmen honors. Brother Segerant Kalin is the youngest of the 4 tactical Segerants, he bears a poweraxe a incredibley rare version of a power weapon, but he gained this after he slew a necron lord in combat (true story).

The Assualt Squad Segerants are Jackal, Goron, and Jenkins. Segerant Jackal is the hot headed leader of the insertion squad beta, a squad that has deemed many honors for striking in the heart of the enemy. Goron is the pyschotic warrior weilding a twin thunder hammer, till this day noone knows why he carries them. Jenkins is the fool hardy joker of the 10th, his inspirational deeds have gained him status in the Chapter itself.

The Devastor Squad segerants are by far the greatest marksmen in the entire chapter they are Yain, Helis, and Balin. Yain is the second oldest member of the company but he is one of glory day warriors. Helis is the hot headed heavy bolter expert with the finest aim in the company. Balin is the patient hunter whose tank hunting skills are behind imaginable.

The 10th company also has 2 sternguard squads and a Terminator Squad that is joint with it.
The Stern Guard Segerant is Templar Garro, and Templar Nihilus. Garro is a patient, cunning warrior, he is also a bearer of the Iron Halo and the Sword of the Temple with the sword arm of even Loken Himself. Nihilus is a sword master as well but unlike Garro he is more tacticful and bolder than Garro.

The Terminator Squad Segerant is Ulrius, he is one of the most daring of all the squads. He and his squad deepstrike into the heart of the enemy. He is bold and he is known as the "The Devil's Fool".
. The Storm Crusaders have different campagians and are spread across the Gaxaly. The Chapter has not been together since the 32nd millienia. The Chapters companies are thrown randomly. If another company comes into contact with another one it is incredibly rare. Calnor gets 4 companies only because he is a Grand Templar. Which is the 2nd Highest Rank. He controls these compainies because the 4 of them are usually joint with each other in huge campagains. The Crusades are different in that they are sent all over the place.
And it orginially came down to that each 1,000 Storm Crusaders is different in their doctrines, organization, tactical abilities. Etc. So it is 3 different chapters in a sense. But it only shows one color. The Dark Green. Because all Storm Crusaders are Masters of Jungle Fighting. But it is extremely rare for anyone to meet a Captain of the Storm Crusaders. They Chapter is also spread so thin. That It would break the back of any ordinary chapter.
And also. I have named 6 chapters. Storm Jackals, Sons of the Phoenix, Black Fists, Blade Knights, Storm Crusaders, and the Red Ravagers.
A Legend Among the Storm Crusaders Calnor Alrnia is the Grand Templar of the Storm Crusaders. His services in the Imperium date back over 8 centuries. His first years of a Space Marine Showed a promising young Neophyte with the honor of a Warrior, he's ambitions to be the best, and to one day save humanity grown even more closer. Calnor Alrnia was once part of the Alpha Squadron along with Val and Malick. And the three of them are now brothers in arms and Leaders of the Chapter. As a Grand Templar Calnor Alrnia is the embodiment of the Chapter. Calnor is proud, taciturn, intelligent, a natural leader. He is fearless as a warrior and his swordsmanship is only matched by the Black Templar's High Marshal. Calnor is also bearer of two relics of the chapter. The Talnris, a sword of an ever burning spirit and the Angel Armor, the self repairing armor and the spirit of the chapter. Truly Calnor is a legend, as he has taken slew of enemies. Killing of a Daemon Prince in the Griminar System, Assassination of a Chaos Lord, Killing of a Dark Eldar Lord, and even banishing over 200 demons in his time in the Storm Crusaders, this is but a small fraction of acts he has done. As the missions of his time in the Alpha Squadron are still shrouded in Mystery. But Calnor Alrnia Bears a secret that all of the Members of the Chapter Council hold as a burden. To speak of it would mean death. And those outside of the Council would meet their death because of this secret.


Calnor Alrnia Stats
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
6 5 4 4 4 6 3 10 +2 ++4
Points 285
Special Rules
And they shall know no fear, Independent Character, Combat Tactics, Orbital Bombardment, Feel No Pain.

Chapter Tactics
If you include Calnor Alrnia then all your army lose the Combat Tactics special rule. If you include Calnor Alrnia then all your army lose the Combat Tactics special rule for Furious Charge.

*Twisting Fates- If your army includes Calnor Alrnia, half of your total infantry elite choices.

*The Sword Master- Calnor is deadly in combat espically with the blade. He may reroll all failed attempts to wound. (no reroll-rerolls!) OR

Wargear
Eagle Helm (iron halo). Armor of the Crusader (artficer armor). Jump Pack. Melta Bomb, Frag and Krak Grenades. Astartes Launcher, Combi-Melta, Hell Fire Rounds, Sword of the Grand Templar (relic blade)

The 1st Company.
The 1st company is lead by Captain Navious..
Captain Navious is Relatively new to his position . Though his experience is not questioned. It is merely his youth. As he is a replacement for the Late Captain Garane. Even though he may not live up to the Captain's Legendary performance as a captain. Navious is a extraordinary leader and tactician. Navious is also a great warrior and he can easily adapt to any situation that arises. Though he is inexperienced has his sergeants to aid hin this new endeavor...
The 1st has 6 Sternguard squads, 3 Vanguard Squads, and 1 Fully Equipped Terminator Squad. The First is where the recruits of 21st and 15th companies arise from. Needless to say they are technically the greatest soldiers in the chapter. But they are just recruits for the 2 other companies.

The Flaw. -Appending Approval-Unofficial lore-
One of the chapters most guarded secrets is Something called the 13th Sign. This sign is when the pyschi of the Astrates goes rampant and instead of normaly function goes into a state of change. His body slowly grows faster but his sanity slowly slips away, and a mutations all over the Astrates body is slowly twisted. This is believed to of been started by the Demon Lord Calis. As his blood was split on the geneseed of the 25th and 5th compaines. Needless to say. Any Neyphote given this even after passing the 19 Trails. Are tainted and have been known to randomly turn into a beast of carnage. As his new form shows no recognizable to the old Astrates. It sometimes takes years for the 13th sign to appear on Asprints. But this Flaw is very rare. As only the geneseed of 25th and 5th Companies show the most of these failed Aspirants.

The Founding Legion
The Founding Legion of the Storm Crusaders is still unknown today. But many Imperial Scholars point towards the possible 2nd or 11th lost legions. As their geneseed shows no similarities to any other chapter's geneseed. But many Scholars and scribes point towards the Blood Angels, or even the Ultramarines. As their visionary ways of setting up a better Future for Humanity is Abundant in the Storm Crusaders. Truth is that No one except the Guarded secrets of the Council know the Answer to this question.

I need someone to give me a drawback. I was thinking of a chapter Rivalery or that the geneseed has developed a Muscle growth which makes them explode after a certain amount of time.

exploding muscles seems extremely violent and sore.

Yes it does. But it doesn't reheal.

What about loss of sight something less extreme, or memory loss

Memory loss? lol.
Not really a drawback.

How is it not a drawback if you cant remember what your doing?

kravus master of Horus wrote:How is it not a drawback if you cant remember what your doing?

Thats too big of a drawback. Last thing i need is the 41st Jason Bournes running around