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HQ:
Librarian (100) w/ Bolt Pistol
-Blood Lance
-Unleash Rage

ELITES:
Chaplain (100)

TROOPS:
Assault Marines x9 (192) w/ Flamer, Power Weapon
Assault Marnes x10 (215) w/ Meltagun x2, Meltabombs
Death Company x5 (130) w/ Thunder Hammer x1, CCW x4
Scout Squad x5 (100) w/ Sniper Rifles x4, Heavy Bolter, Camo Cloak
Rhino A (35)
Rhino B (35)
Razorback (90) w/ Assault Cannon

TOTAL: 997

So, pretty much this is what will happen:

Librarian- Runs with the Death Company in the Razorback, they will take out infantry, or any tanks that are important.
Chaplain- Runs around with the first Assault Squad killing infantry.
1st Assault Squad- Runs with the chaplain, killing infantry.
2nd Assault Squad- Runs around killing tanks with meltaguns, then charging them with meltabombs.
Death Company- Run with the Librarian, killing infantry, then if someone tries to tie them up with a dread, they have a TH to destroy it.
Scouts- Camp objectives, try and pin tank hunters.

Everyone is in transports.


This is my first BA list, so tell me what you think.

just when you thought rhino rush was dead...

Looks fairly solid but it seems to rely on that rhino rush element and I don't think it would do well against mobile armies. You literally have no long ranged AT capable of penetrating say a Wave Serpent. Your longest ranged weapon is 24" (except the HB) and that is only 1 and S6.

I just can't help feeling you'd be better off with a jump pack swarm at this point level, if someone pops your Rhino's early you are done.

I also don't like BA lists without Sanguinary Priests, S5 makes such a difference to an assault and particularly to your power weapons it really is a no brainer. Leaving the JPs on the assault marines would get you enough points to put an SP in the unit and then you could decide whether you stick with DC in the rhino or select a different hammer unit.

I forgot to mention, I will be playing an Ork list, do you think I should stick with Rhino rush or Jump Packs?

I'd go duel bloodlance Librarians if you know you're up against Orks. Then spam the JP marines, blood lance the Nobz and assault knowing between FnP and S5 you will absolutely murder him given he'll be S3 and no PK...

Any Chaplains or Baal Preds?

If you know you are playing against orks there is no reason to not take 3x baal Preds with HB sponson. BA should never take scouts snipers in general

take
Libi w JP
Chaplain w JP
2x DC squads w JP and some power fists.
and if you can afford it
a dred with 2 TL AC

I prefer not to take DC with JP against this player, just because he uses Deff Koptaz to make my DC chase after them, making them useless.

DC as a whole are useless at the lower points due to their Rage.

I generally at 1k Pts go with the following

Libby w/ JP
Assault Squad w/ PF, 2x Melta
Assault Squad w/ PF, 2x Flamer
Sang Priest w/ JP
2x Furioso Dreads w/ Drop Pod
Empty Drop Pod

That is the general list I have been using. It seems to work quite well so far, I have been able to hold fast against mech until I make it to their lines. The Dreads usually drop together on either flank, or near a heavy target. I will sometimes swap out their CCW for Blood Talons if I know I am going against all horde. To me the BA are the best army against orks, and IG if done right.

Only thing I worry about is the ability to hold objectives, how would I do that?

Generally I put my objectives as close to mid field as possible. So after i am done assaulting my troops can always jump back to grab the objective. If you want you can always swap out one of the dreads for some scouts. Although my army relies on hopefully wiping out the enemy or atleast their troops for the win.

Sounds logical, I'm going to play a quick game against some guard, I'll post up a battle rep hopefully.

They have 3 basilisks, and then 2 power blobs, and it will be annihilation.

You should be pretty good to take him on. You could definitely swap out the DCCW on the furiosos though for some multe-melta action if you like. Or I like putting Magna-Grapples on my dreads >

I actually kept the CCW, I dropped them in right behind the basilisks and did very well, taking them all out turn two (Took one out turn one.)

I have a battle rep up. A lot of proxies and some lame terrain though.

From the looks of the battle rep, you like the list? It seems it did very well. I have had very good success with this list since I started running it at the end of the summer. If it weren't for my SW, I would still be tweaking this list.

Yes sir, The only thing is I have literally 24 models, but I'm going to tweek it a bit. Thank you for the help Maverick!

No problem sir. It is a great list if used correctly. The low model count is definitely helped by the FnP given by the Sang Priest. The FnP helps basically everyone in your army, so definitely the try and make that bubble fit as much as possible. I essentially only run 6 more models in my SW army, so its not too bad.

A bit OT but if you mind, what is your SW list?

can you please go over this army and tell me what you guys think it will do in casual play
dante 225 points
sanguiary guard plus death mask plus chapter banner 255 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
sorry for messed up spelling



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BAguard wrote:can you please go over this army and tell me what you guys think it will do in casual play
dante 225 points
sanguiary guard plus death mask plus chapter banner 255 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
sorry for messed up spelling

BTW its 1530 points but all play at 1500 in casual with friends they said its ok

My suggestion is this
1 Librarian with what ever you want to give him for powers

100

1 sanguinary priest with a power weapon 65

1 10 man assault squad with a flamer 195

1 10 man assault squad with no upgrades 190

1 Land raider crusader with a mm 225

1 Land raider with a mm 225

1000 points
stick the Librarian the Sanguinary priest and the assault squad that has the flamer in to the crusader and put the other squad into the normal land raider. This would fun to watch just bam 2 land raiders that should be enough fire power to take care of those green skins might not even have to get out haha and it pretty much ensures that you get the charge. This could be really fun.

Maybe taking a land raider out, throwing termies in one and deep striking? I've never tried it.

Something to consider:

Mephiston 250

Lib dread, wings, shield 175

Lib dread, wings, shield 175

5 assault marines, flamer, remove packs 105
Razorback, TLHF 20

5 assault marines, melta, infernus, remove packs 125
Razorback, TLHF 20

Assault squad, melta, infernus 125

Would be fun

Light on antitank but otherwise pretty nasty for 1000pts

revackey wrote:A bit OT but if you mind, what is your SW list?

- Rune Priest
- 3x (8) GH w/ PF, Melta, Standard, MotW, Rhino
- LF w/ 5 MLs
- 3x WG w/ PF, Combi-Melta

That is my all comer's list, generally I may change out the WG for some more LF if I am facing heavier horde armies.

BAguard wrote:can you please go over this army and tell me what you guys think it will do in casual play
dante 225 points
sanguiary guard plus death mask plus chapter banner 255 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
sorry for messed up spelling



Automatically Appended Next Post:

BAguard wrote:can you please go over this army and tell me what you guys think it will do in casual play
dante 225 points
sanguiary guard plus death mask plus chapter banner 255 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
sanguiary guard 200 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
assult terminators with thunder hammer storm shield 225 points
sorry for messed up spelling

BTW its 1530 points but all play at 1500 in casual with friends they said its ok

Too many points wasted on the Sang Guard, they aren't that good for the amount of points they require, and they will suffer just as much to firepower as normal assault marines, the only difference is normal assault marines you get more for the points. Also your termies are going to DS? more than likely they will be ripped apart after they DS, switch the Sang guard to assault marines and try to find some points for an LRC and put your termies in here as onbe big death start unit. DoA with an LRC of Assault Termies is amazing!

cowpow16 wrote:My suggestion is this
1 Librarian with what ever you want to give him for powers

100

1 sanguinary priest with a power weapon 65

1 10 man assault squad with a flamer 195

1 10 man assault squad with no upgrades 190

1 Land raider crusader with a mm 225

1 Land raider with a mm 225

1000 points
stick the Librarian the Sanguinary priest and the assault squad that has the flamer in to the crusader and put the other squad into the normal land raider. This would fun to watch just bam 2 land raiders that should be enough fire power to take care of those green skins might not even have to get out haha and it pretty much ensures that you get the charge. This could be really fun.

Good list, may suffer against IG because you are putting half of your points into two tanks, which IG make short work of.

revackey wrote:Maybe taking a land raider out, throwing termies in one and deep striking? I've never tried it.

Works Amazingly! Definitely try it out, generally the first time a player sees it they gak themselves...

Jabbdo wrote:Something to consider:

Mephiston 250

Lib dread, wings, shield 175

Lib dread, wings, shield 175

5 assault marines, flamer, remove packs 105
Razorback, TLHF 20

5 assault marines, melta, infernus, remove packs 125
Razorback, TLHF 20

Assault squad, melta, infernus 125

Would be fun

Light on antitank but otherwise pretty nasty for 1000pts

Not so good for objective based games, although a fun list, can eaily be left in the dust if fire is focused enough.

It would appear that the list I posted would wipe the floor with any of the other 1000pt lists I see here?

I know it wouldnt be too good against IG but who expects you to take 2 land raiders like really its like bam 2 land raiders what now? and how mch anti tank does anyone cram into a 1000 point list its usualy anti infantry and light armor from what I have seen. I wouldnt deep strike any land raider unless you had locator beacons on say a drop pod or scouts because thats just nasty when you have a land raider or 2 come in exactly on target and just shoot things up then next turn some angry marines come out. Also I have bad deep strike scatter roles so my land raider would most likely scatter the wrong way and into something nasty or off the table and then that is a waist of points.

cowpow16 wrote:I know it wouldnt be too good against IG but who expects you to take 2 land raiders like really its like bam 2 land raiders what now? and how mch anti tank does anyone cram into a 1000 point list its usualy anti infantry and light armor from what I have seen. I wouldnt deep strike any land raider unless you had locator beacons on say a drop pod or scouts because thats just nasty when you have a land raider or 2 come in exactly on target and just shoot things up then next turn some angry marines come out. Also I have bad deep strike scatter roles so my land raider would most likely scatter the wrong way and into something nasty or off the table and then that is a waist of points.

I've gotten the crap kicked out of me because of Malbro (Spell Check?) He pops up behind your tank and blows it to bits with his demo charge. Then their tanks can handle the rest, or if they are infantry their meltas.

cowpow16 wrote:I know it wouldnt be too good against IG but who expects you to take 2 land raiders like really its like bam 2 land raiders what now?

Melta that everyone and their mom is packing these days? Any str 10?

Besides, at these point levels you cant even fit 2 raiders and a hammer squad inside, so its use as a transport is going to waste, and its not gonna kill much by itself.

Very true I just tried to mix it up a little thought it might just be funny depending who you play against I just think it would be more amusing rather than competitive but for a 1000 point game something along the lines of Librarian with jump pack 2 assault squads with meltas a Sanguinary priest with jump pack and power weapon with each squad maybe a AC/LC predator plus a squad of scouts with sniper rifles and camo cloaks comes to somewhere around 1000that could work.

I tried running Scout snipers in my tournament I played, they failed every job. They gob shot up and missed all their sniper shots on the objective. And then I figured, hel why not use them as bait for the guy to go assault...he shot them up first turn. I'd rather prefer to drop them for another pred, or drop the pred and the scouts for a furioso dread or two.

That might just be my bad luck, I love their model though.

revackey wrote:I tried running Scout snipers in my tournament I played, they failed every job. They gob shot up and missed all their sniper shots on the objective. And then I figured, hel why not use them as bait for the guy to go assault...he shot them up first turn. I'd rather prefer to drop them for another pred, or drop the pred and the scouts for a furioso dread or two.

That might just be my bad luck, I love their model though.

No, its not you, its how they nerfed the scouts. They use to have better WS/BS and that made them pretty damn useful, just like normal marines except with a different armor save. Anyway, the SW still get the good scouts, they just pay a little more. Definitely not fair!

I'll probably still keep mine, I love how they look. I've been able to use CCW to some effectiveness. But not snipers.