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So after playing a couple of games with my shiny new Warhound yesterday, I got to thinking that it would be fun to build a Titan sized drop pod for it and my Reaver, but I'm not sure how much they ought to cost.

Stat wise I was thinking:
AV 13 all round, open topped.
BS 3
2 structure Points
1 Void Shield
One small titan gun (i.e. the same 4 the Warhound picks from)
Inertial Guidance System

I was thinking ~250 points but I'm not sure if that might be too cheap.

Thought and opinions?

Jack

Haha a dustbin with a rocket would make a good Titan Pod. Rules seem fine but I would tone down the weapons, maybe make it a Battle Cannon at the most, as giving it a Titan weapon would possibly make it overpowered.

I don't think they'd give a droppod void shields...

Afterall, it'd be broken when it hit the ground anyway.

Nor would they give it a full-throttle titan weapon either.

Cool idea, though I'd be scared s***less if I was the people inside.

Very nice idea, but i reckon that a droppod designed for titans would be too huge? you must be playing on a HUGE table if something like that came in. Anyways, i would tone down the weapons, as already said, maybe autocannons?

Yeah I was kinda worried about the gun (titan guns are so broad for all being pointed the same).

I'm worried about putting normal guns on it would end up too far way to be useful in most battles, so anything less then a 4 foot range is kinda blah.

What about sticking only a Vulcan Mega Bolter on it? Sort of a direct scale up of the Standard Marine Pod gun included (and maybe have an option to upgrade to a titan multiple missile launcher like the Deathwind Launcher?)

Plus model wise I wanna plonk a titan gun on it not a bunch of puny weapons

Jack

Model wise it would be alot cooler to have some form of titan weapon mounted on a titan carrying pod. but rules wise i think it may become a little bit too excessive. Only my opinion though, its your model, and your choice.

How many points would you want me to pay for it with a mega bolter on it, if you were playing against me?

Jack

Holy Crap, erm...

300 points?

Maybe less because the Titan is put directly in harms way.

I could easily jump up and toss Melta-Bombs are its legs when it deepstrikes.

Seems like an awesome idea! Put a titan weapon on it, who cares?

As for a model...A trash can would be cool. Or something like that. Make it really sarcastic forteh lulz

No kidding, I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't a Captain Solon thread.

Maybe you could have somethithing like thrusters strapped to the Titans back that fall off when it lands. You could also include a gun by saying that the people that pilot the thrusters need to defend themselves.

Fluff considerations aside.

A battle cannon or mega bolter would would be fine armament for a Titan drop pod.

250-300pts sounds about right.

I can imagine this mishapping a lot, even on big apocalypse tables.

i had the same idea for something like this six years ago, brilliant work. on a side note either vulcan mega bolters or four lascannons

Mr. Burning wrote:Fluff considerations aside.

A battle cannon or mega bolter would would be fine armament for a Titan drop pod.

250-300pts sounds about right.

I can imagine this mishapping a lot, even on big apocalypse tables.

Surely you'd have to find a way around this, either a guidance system like SM DP or the ability to crush anything stupid enough to get underneath. If it misshapped when it hit enemy squads, then enemies could make a sort of 'net' to stop it from landing at all. Something like this is gonna have a big base.

Yeah I thought about having it do something crazy (and therefore Apocalypse appropriate) like removing (a.k.a. Flattening) terrain it landed on and tank shocking any units it hit, but cribbing the Inertial Guidance system rules seemed simpler.

As to size, both of my titans are the older and slightly smaller Armorcast models, so I'd be looking at a minimum foot print for it of about 8 to 10 inchies across, more if I try to mimic the flower petal doors on the Marine Pods. The idea of just making a scaled up Lucius pattern pod (the three door dreadnought pod) appeals to me, but might be silly in practice, so I was thinking of having the door open in the middle instead, to cut down on the amount of table real estate it needs...

Jack

Vladsimpaler wrote:No kidding, I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't a Captain Solon thread.

+1


Also, for points...I'd say 1/5th the cost of whatever's inside of it...That seems to be how marines work...Aren't warlords like 1400 points? Don't have an Apoc book atm. I guess that would put it at...280 points, which seems reasonable. Put a couple battlecannons on it and you can make it a solid three hundred.

They don't really shoot Titans at a planet. Titans aren't even transported regularly, they're just latched to the outside of cruisers.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:No kidding, I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't a Captain Solon thread.

+1


Also, for points...I'd say 1/5th the cost of whatever's inside of it...That seems to be how marines work...Aren't warlords like 1400 points? Don't have an Apoc book atm. I guess that would put it at...280 points, which seems reasonable. Put a couple battlecannons on it and you can make it a solid three hundred.

Hey I limit my craziness urges to Apocalypse at least....

Jack

I woudl think that a drop pod would only work for a Warhound. Doesn't getting a Reaver or larger Titan down from orbit constitute a massive logistics operation? not really the thing you can fire in the middle of a battle.

Also i would avoid the void shield, as has already been said, it is a one-shot deal, so why wate valuale tech on it?

As for the weapons, i too woudl say that a titan weapon woudl be over powered. Maybe an array of smaller calibre wepons? Autocannon sponson providing overlapping arcs of fire perhaps? As it is a super heavy each sponson coudl target different units so it coudl lay down some nice heavy fire when the titan landed.

A titan drop pod, wow. I thought they used transport ships or something like that. A drop pod for a titan would practically be a cargo ship in its own right because of the size. I also don't think any good would come from dropping a titan out of the sky whether in a drop pod or not!

While I can respect the idea as interesting, I gotta say.... can you imagine the mass effect from something like this hurtling down from orbit? You wouldn't even need the titan inside to make this thing a nightmarish theatre-scale weapon...

Come to think of it, drop pods are launched... what, precisely, are you hoping to have this thing fired from?

Vladsimpaler wrote:No kidding, I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't a Captain Solon thread.

+2

Can't find the pic, but I remember a long time ago in either WD or the titan comic... they had a mechanicus ship that basically was several individual bays connected to a main hauler. Each bay housed a titan, and the ship basically flew into very low orbit and dropped the titans onto the surface by themselfs. Mind you this was larger titans, not the small Wolf or Reaver.

I think a one use jetpack for a titan would be more practical. The titan can reenter using its own void shields as protection and combat drop.

I still dont think even that is a good idea except for Warhounds or Knights. Titans are support units evwen in the Heresy era. Also they are not disposable and cannot be risked willingly. also you will need a heavy transport to wothdraw the titan on standby. Withdrawing Titans from perilous positions is a very high priority. This requires having the lander on standby, not exactly practical if you have hot dropped titans.

As for fluff, the titans are normally dropped by huge transport ships far from battle as they need to wait for their support troops and tanks to form up around them, which normally would accompany them into battle always, titans are very precious thats why they're not deployed willy nilly.
It is a very daring and battle hungry princeps indeed, to want to be on the forefront even with a warhound by dropping in the thick of battle?
Anyway, I would suggest no voids and three struct points,plus one battle cannon or missile launcher, also 250 pts is I think reasonable enough.

Fluff aside (for the times where cool factor > fluff) I think it would be great fun. Imagine being the unlucky guy to be right underneath that, "Oh shi-".

Avatar 720 wrote:Fluff aside (for the times where cool factor > fluff) I think it would be great fun. Imagine being the unlucky guy to be right underneath that, "Oh shi-".

Indeed, he'd be squished plus be at the receiving end of an angry warhound or knight titan, because the titan had just been dropped! Hehehe

What just read this thread and as far as i know assuming for some reason someone let you use that why on earth would you want to it will die ,secondly i personally would never allow that its not that its a massively bad idea it just i hate the idea of the titan pod killing more than the titan what i would suggest is a portal of some kind or rockets strapped to its back and if it mishaps it and every thing within 48 inches die instantly(norm rules apply)

Maybe therein lies the problem with this idea, the sheer size of the titan drop pod could be made into a weapon by itself
A couple of those drop pods and you may not need the titan itself to cause damage to your enemy.

I cannot support this idea. Titans already have good armor, structure points, and void shields. They don't need to get the extra bonus of being able to drop pod in & shoot at the enemy without them even having a chance to fire back first.

Creed can already have them outflank I don't think this (drop pods) is supported by fluff or any sign of game balance.

As for the scattering mishaps, scout bikers with locator beacons easily fixes this problem.

Hey sarge... look up in the sky... a giant scyscraper about to fall on us from out of nowhere!

don't worry kid, it might scatter into a shrub or something and bounce somewhere else instead.


...maybe if it took half the game turns to dig itself out of the crater it makes when it lands umpteen tons into the ground at orbital entry speed?