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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 12:56:05
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 13:00:15
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Looking good, but you might want to add another colour like red or something to make your models stand out more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 14:48:03
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
Arlington TX, but want to be back in Seattle WA
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What are you going for? Looks like boltgun metal drybrushed over a black primer. So far it looks good. I cant really suggest anything unless I know what your trying to achieve....but for now, you have a nice start
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 15:14:13
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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It's looking good for one of your first models. The details aren't smudged which is a plus. It Looks like you are also using the drybrushing technique, which is an amazingly usefull technique but can easily be over done. Why don't you try painting an existing Space Marine chapter (like the Ultramarines) for practice but if you really want your own chapter - experiment with at least two fairly contrasting colours (not counting the metal parts) to really give your models some life and make them "pop".
Keep practising though and keep us updated.
EDIT: Also good job on the pictures, so many new posters put horrid blurry ones up. Yours are very crisp and clear. Try sticking a bit of white paper in the background for your next ones so the full focus is really on the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 16:14:10
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Paint the Purity Seals (the thing on his arm) Red or Green, with the bit of scroll in a bleached Bone colour. It wil just adda a nice bit of detail, that is fairly easy to do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 18:03:41
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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It looks pretty good. You didn't over prime so you've not lost any detail, and the dry brushing gives it a nice worn look and breaks up the black primer so we can actually see details.
It looks like you didn't wipe the paint off the brush enough before you began dry brushing the left leg armor, but the rest looks great.
I would make sure to clean up the mold lines on the back of the arms next time. Mold lines are a pain in the rear to get rid of, but the effort is really worth it.
I would paint the purity seals with red or green for the wax and bleached bone for the parchment.
I would also paint all of the tubes and cables with boltgun metal and a heavy black wash over that. All of the scroll work sould be painted with boltgun metal, some kind of gold, or bleached bone for a faux parchment look.
Also if you have a model drill, drill out the melta barrels a bit, or you could paint the tips like a lense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 18:24:19
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Heres what i would do chap, if your looking for that metal effect to more than brushed black, base all the undergladding entirely in your bolt gun metal, take yourself some badab black or in my preference, devlan mud, and mix it 50/50 water/wash and apply all over the silver, dont be too generous with it but dont be scared to put it on either!
let it sit and dry for 20 minutes, get your bolt gun and just line all the edges with boltgun again, very simple very straight forward and will give you a good outcome.
many people are taught to dry brush and to my dismay when working with GW, other staff members used the technique in droves, which in MY personal opinion is wrong, you will love your model more by using washes and simple edge lining techniques more than you will dry brushing!
as for the other details, take your army, and your base colour, if its black go with black if its red, red and so on, and just apply over the armour plate cladding, *not straight from pot* but a dab of water in your mix and re coat the armour, for now dont worry about the highlighting of your base colours, just focus on picking out the details and getting used to doing it cleanly, once you have that down, look to mixing lighter tones into your base colours for each part and highlighting
(i do this by glazing which means to add a glaze medium in the colour consistency im using rather than directly applying a lighter tone on, it allows the translucent tone to blend with the under colour and with multiple coats builds up that effect so you get a nice clean dark to light transition)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/27 21:26:43
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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Thanks for all the tips and suggestions. I was going for the Iron Hands scheme. I wanted to make them look worn and battle torn a bit (like they had been on a campaign for a while). Tried to get it to look like the paint was chipped by heavy dry brushing in places. I have to keep working on this and i will post updates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 02:51:42
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Good paint job just a little bland needs more colour like as said above painting the purity seals and some details also on it. Even some dots on red at the feet would make it stand out more..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 03:52:21
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Highlighting the black grey gives a very good look and effect
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 04:17:14
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
Crusading deep in the Eastern Fringe.
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I would agree with the comment of it being very bland. I don't think that model would even be tournament-legal on the grounds of only using two colors. Mix it up!
On the plus side it is very cleanly drybrushed, or at least as clean as you can get with drybrushing.
Yeah, use more colors. It's almost like a 3D coloring book; just pick whichever color goes with what part of the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 05:27:11
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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Small update. Now it is more colors. Still need to make it pop more may try the highlighting thing tomorrow. Let me know what you think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 05:42:47
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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this might sound abit like an advance technique but its worth trying out... try to layer the red more... so far from what i can see is that you ahve the basic red and the a deep shade... so now all you need are highlights to highlight the 'protruding' bits on the chest wings with blazing orange or even dwarf flesh. =)
i know you wanna do some form of weathering on the red and unfortunately i can't offer you a really good explanation on how to do it cause i'm quite inexperience myself. but i suggest painting spots of black then paint some boltgun metal over the black (but remember to leave some of the black showing around the edges) - this onli applies for the red parts though...
anyway... do have a look at my gallery ,i have a dreadnought painted up too and in a similar colour scheme (black) so you can probably get some ideas from that maybe?
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this might sound abit like an advance technique but its worth trying out... try to layer the red more so far from what i can see is that you ahve the basic red and the a deep shade... so now all you need are highlights to highlight the 'protruding' bits on the chest wings.
i know you wanna do some form of weathering on the red and unfortunately i can't offer you a really good explanation on how to do it cause i'm quite inexperience myself. but i suggest painting spots of black then paint some boltgun metal over the black (but remember to leave some of the black showing around the edges) - this onli applies for the red parts though...
anyway... do have a look at my gallery ,i have a dreadnought painted up too and in a similar colour scheme (black) so you can probably get some ideas from that maybe?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 05:53:42
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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ArchAngel_alex wrote:this might sound abit like an advance technique but its worth trying out... try to layer the red more... so far from what i can see is that you ahve the basic red and the a deep shade... so now all you need are highlights to highlight the 'protruding' bits on the chest wings with blazing orange or even dwarf flesh. =)
i know you wanna do some form of weathering on the red and unfortunately i can't offer you a really good explanation on how to do it cause i'm quite inexperience myself. but i suggest painting spots of black then paint some boltgun metal over the black (but remember to leave some of the black showing around the edges) - this onli applies for the red parts though...
anyway... do have a look at my gallery ,i have a dreadnought painted up too and in a similar colour scheme (black) so you can probably get some ideas from that maybe?
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this might sound abit like an advance technique but its worth trying out... try to layer the red more so far from what i can see is that you ahve the basic red and the a deep shade... so now all you need are highlights to highlight the 'protruding' bits on the chest wings.
i know you wanna do some form of weathering on the red and unfortunately i can't offer you a really good explanation on how to do it cause i'm quite inexperience myself. but i suggest painting spots of black then paint some boltgun metal over the black (but remember to leave some of the black showing around the edges) - this onli applies for the red parts though...
anyway... do have a look at my gallery ,i have a dreadnought painted up too and in a similar colour scheme (black) so you can probably get some ideas from that maybe?
That is a nice mini in your galery i really like the gold accents. I may try something similar to that in silver.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 07:04:44
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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@romeo.lima I've seen players play with 90% of their army not painted in tournaments but that could just be the people around me not caring a lick just as long as they don't have to get up for rulings(granted I've never entered a tournamentor really played ether so I don't know the rules at all yet).
@Mongoosedoggie It's getting better The final touches I would say are brighten up the colours a bit then personally on the crest I would drybrush gold to ascent the red a little then put sepia wash on parts of it to make it look like it was a bit of rust on it. That's just what I would do personally but basically you can call it 99% complete(you never know you might want to do something else) once you brighten on the colours a bit.
Edit: @archangel_alex That is a fantastic dreadnought would be good as a starting point but inspiration on what to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 07:04:57
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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glad you like it... =)
and good luck with your model. do post a picture as an update. =)
and so you know i don't mind working more closely with you to improve your model. just let me know if you're interested
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 09:20:09
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Looks better with the added colours but yeah they do look like they need a highlight, but good work so far
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The Ailarian Medal of Literary Endurance, yes, it's shiny |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 09:43:42
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd clean up the black areas about now, but as a start it's pretty good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 12:17:35
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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oh... and 1 more thing that i missed out on...
paint the damn purity seal!!! =P
hehe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 17:40:26
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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ArchAngel_alex wrote:oh... and 1 more thing that i missed out on...
paint the damn purity seal!!! =P
hehe
Yeah. I will post my updated version later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 19:13:34
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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MongooseDoggie wrote:ArchAngel_alex wrote:oh... and 1 more thing that i missed out on...
paint the damn purity seal!!! =P
hehe
Yeah. I will post my updated version later.
And (sorry this has been bugging me) clip the hair off of it. *shiver* ocd hates me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 21:33:18
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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ok, update. I tried the outlining thing. It turned out alright I think. I also finished up a tone for details all over the model. Here is the front.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/28 21:42:38
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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you might want to try to use a thinner highlight, and use a a shadow grey or fortress grey, not so much silver and that should work. Also I think if you paint the scroll gold as well as the cross and skull it would add alot to the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/29 06:24:22
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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Ok, here is the almost finished i think. I really like this at the moment. First basing ever so any help is welcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/29 06:30:47
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Sooo much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/29 11:43:17
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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well done... looks quite good... =)
here's a tip... if you wanna do blood splatters... use darker reds (for fresher blood) or even brown (for old blood stains)...
and for the fresh blood, put a little 'ard coat varnish (gloss coat varnish) on it to make it more realistic... though careful not to over do it... only concentrate on the center of the 'pool'... let the side or the outer edges of the blood stains be flat..
for best effect you can use a first base coat of scorced brown and build up to about 2:1 blood red and scorched brown for the center or even pure blood red (up to u)... after that then proceed with the gloss varnish... =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/29 18:58:25
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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I use fake blood you get from halloween stores.. it works fine most of the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/29 21:38:31
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Kabalite Conscript
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Thanks for all the help. It really helped me achieve a look that I am quite proud of for my first real try. Now I just have to get better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/30 02:27:32
Subject: New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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Fresh-Faced New User
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hehe... its all about practice man... =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/30 08:50:40
Subject: Re:New painter here, tips and critiques are welcome
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Needs more pink.
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