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vampire lord
flayed hauberk
sword of might

konrad

necro
+1 spell
crown of the damned

15 grave guard
standard, musician
great weapons

2 units of skeletons
hand weapons
standard, musician

this was my 1000 point list i played with today and it seems i need help with tactics and i think my list isnt correct for a 1000 point list.
i temp to say konrad is not 1000 point game material i just reallly really like him. but of course maybe im playing bad. please help tics, tactics and all.

thanks

The size of the Skellie units would be helpful. Though personally I feel you aren't fielding all that much in terms of units and are a little character heavy.

If you find yourself getting shot at by war machines a lot i'd suggest a unit of wolfs. Vanguard movement means you can usually be sure that you'll be eating crewmen on turn 2.

so i would use wolfs and take out konrad? because my skeletons are the lowest amount of points i can go for core.

As Jake Bake a Cake said, what are the sizes of the skeleton units? It would also be helpful seeing each unit's point total.

oh 15 each

Indeed... how do you deploy them?

skellys in front left

skellys in front right konrad inside

grave gaurd behind middle lord and necro inside.

toutaku wrote:vampire lord
flayed hauberk
sword of might

konrad

necro
+1 spell
crown of the damned

15 grave guard
standard, musician
great weapons

2 units of skeletons
hand weapons
standard, musician

this was my 1000 point list i played with today and it seems i need help with tactics and i think my list isnt correct for a 1000 point list.
i temp to say konrad is not 1000 point game material i just reallly really like him. but of course maybe im playing bad. please help tics, tactics and all.

thanks

At 1,000 points,
Vampire Thrall, Flayed Hauberk, sword of might.
30 skeletons, light armor, shields, full command, warbanner
30 skeletons, light armor, shields, full command, banner of +1 combat res for the 4th rank.
5 Dire wolves
3 dire bats
Spend all remaining points on grave guard with great weapons.

Have the thrall throw two dice at a time at the summon spell; hope you don't roll 6's.
Skeletons should be 5 wide and 6 deep. This should let them both strip away steadfast, and roll into combat with a base +5 combat res(+6 if both units fight together).
The dire things hunt/screen, and the wights finish off units that the skeletons tie up.

Try less heroes, you'll do a lot better at this point value.

-Matt

interesting seems like a good plan. how would i play it? i had an idea of a list that had:

vamp lord flayed hauberk, lord of dead, luck stone

necro +1 spell, sceptor de noirot, dispell scroll
necro +1 spell, rod of flaming death

5 dire wolves
5 dire wolves

15 skellys standard, musician
15 skellys standard, musician

10 grave guard standard, screaming banner

came to 996 total

i figured i could raise up a storm of zombies with necro and rod of flaming death with the other, my lord to increase my skellys alot, dire wolves for flanking, skellys for tieing up, grave guard for holding lord and necros.

toutaku wrote:interesting seems like a good plan. how would i play it? i had an idea of a list that had:

i figured i could raise up a storm of zombies with necro and rod of flaming death with the other, my lord to increase my skellys alot, dire wolves for flanking, skellys for tieing up, grave guard for holding lord and necros.

You're planning on power dice you might not have. With only 15 skeletons, I'd say you have a good shot at being dead before you get to start the summoning. That scepter only gives the bonus on the initial casting, not when you are beefing up zombies.

You don't really need the vampire lord at 1,000 points. He's just too expensive. You can only spend 250 points on all your lord choices at 1000 points, so you can't even make him really good.

Lord of the Dead might be a good idea on the Thrall in the list I proposed.
Honestly, you don't need more than a level 1 wizard either. If you want more magic, have your thrall take the I know all the spells thing; and choose vampire lore! It's really good for how easy it is to cast.

Again, and I can't stress this enough, you need to start with more skeletons on those units. If your opponent gets even slightly lucky, he has a very good shot at wiping one off the table before your first turn.

-Matt

ok i will try and make a list of 2 units of 20 skellys and no lord. thanks for the advice. i assume you play VC and know what your talking about.