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Malika2 wrote:Kind of off topic, but what classification does the Servitor have in a Pit Slave gang? Just take that classification for those sorts of units (Servitors, Daemonhosts, etc).

Malika2, the brainstorming thread was great.

So, in the case of a daemonhost, as seen in this awesome battle report, it would be treated as a 'hired gun' with exclusive hiring rights to a Radical =I= gang? Is that how such elements will be handled that exist outside the standard gang construction? Sorry, I have yet to get a hold of the Pit Slave gang list.

I do apologize for going slightly off topic from the thread. It's just so exciting to see what is going on here.

I think you guys might be a bit too focused on making neat lists. Our group really ignores a lot of restrictions when it suits our purpose. I mean, I asked Migs if I could have a Daemonhost and he said ok, if you build it, I'll come up stats for it, no prob.

And I don't see why servitors can't be regular gang members. Don't get too hung up on titles (i.e. servitor is not an "agent", looks like I can't use it...). I have two servitors in my gang (well, one now, because Sating got her brains blown out in the last game...), one is Heavy and one is ganger. No extra rules neccessary.

But I guess you people approach this from the rules perspective and then build figs fitting the rules. Our group has the figs as the driving force. Build something that looks cool and then come up with rules for it. I guess that works because our players do not compete against each other but the games are story driven. We ditched all the lands and money after few first games too. I guess they were getting in the way of the story?

I guess it would be different if you plan to play with the full Necromunda rules (land, money, the whole shebang). Then you need to be a bit more concerned with the balance.

So it's a matter of perspective after all.

I agree with you that these games should primarily be focussed on a narrative and also modelling (I think that is probably the number one aspect of =I=munda), however, some people are still more interested in some sort of structure in their game in which they model their forces after what's best in the "armylist" or according to the rules. I think the =I=munda discussion in the other part of this forum is exactly for that. The reason why people wonder where to place these special units and equipment also comes from the whole idea of "game balance" which in itself can be ok. However, you could also have the Game Master have more influence in the matter.

I do think that if there were such a thing as an "=I=munda rulebook" that there need to be a few pages for the GM's.

I loved that battle report, great work, Hammer!
You really have me psyched for geting a gang together..but where to play? Sadly enough I don't think that any of my friends has seen this...

Keep the good stuff coming guys!

//Hoffen

I think it just feels a bit restricting to have all these different types of lists that say that if you are this type =I=, you cannot have troop X and must have troop Y and so on...

My Inquisitor was leaning a bit towards radical at the start of the campaing, but all options were still open for him. It was the choises I made for him in game that actually turned him radical though and not because I picked out a radical army list. I decided to go against the orders of the Inquisitor in charge of the situation and that brought me whole deal of grief as another Inquisitor was dispatched after me. I still could have sorted the situation out, but it was again my desicion to create the daemonhost ant that act finally drove me over the line. There is no coming back now.
So my Inquisitor is radical because of the choises he made and not because of an army list I picked at the start.

Also, I have a wide variety of servants in my disposal: Adeptus Mechanicus tech priest (dead now), two servitors (one dead, one brain addled...), Arbitrator, Imperial navy trooper (dead), Interrogator, Ecclesiarch priest.

With open list you can add all sorts of followers to your group. I guess I would feel restricted with more closed list (Would I be add that Tech Priest to Inquisitor band? )

But of course there are the other side of the coin: With detailed lists, all these characters could be even more interesting. All my guys are really just gangers and heavies and juves when it comes to stats (apart from my Inquisitor and daemonhost, who have more invidual stats)

It would be great if they would have some simple special rules to differiate them more from each other. Tech priest might be able to repair himself and so on...

I just bought a lot of useless wargear to rep the differences (filter plugs and IR goggles for the Tech Priest for example).

Well, this is where a GM would then step in. You would have the list, but you still want some other goodies and such. Discuss it with the GM and see if (s)he approves. You then kind of have the best of both worlds here.

The "rules" and "lists" would thus only be a guideline, not doctrine that should be followed to the death.

Yeah, not surprisingly, I agree 110% with Hammer.

We wanted a system where our imagination is the starting point and the rules and scenarios cater for that and drive the whole thing. Generally it surprises me to see how hung up people are on rules and legalities, even if GW is also always telling you to do your thing with the hobby.

Col Hammer wrote:

But of course there are the other side of the coin: With detailed lists, all these characters could be even more interesting. All my guys are really just gangers and heavies and juves when it comes to stats (apart from my Inquisitor and daemonhost, who have more invidual stats)

It would be great if they would have some simple special rules to differiate them more from each other. Tech priest might be able to repair himself and so on...

I just bought a lot of useless wargear to rep the differences (filter plugs and IR goggles for the Tech Priest for example).

But this is also a possibility in our system! Like I've said from the start - all wishes are taken into consideration and it just takes a pts cost Gurk for example has a Haemonculi and a combatdrugged feline beast, both custom characters with custom rules and wargear.

I know you've got everybody here constantly throwing ideas and such at you, but I just had to show you guys this. Some dude over at Warseer called Moonduck built a Pentinent Engine which immediately made me think of =I=munda (I wonder why )!

Ok, this topic made me register... What a fantastic, inspirational line of miniatures! They breathe the atmosphere that I love about the 40K universe. Dark and gritty. Twisted and macabre. It makes me want to start converting and make a gang of my own

Well...what's stopping you?

Malika2 wrote:Well...what's stopping you?

Atm... a Daemonhunters army that I'm paiting for my brother-in-law; several seperate miniatures just for fun,and having other obligations and stuff aside from my converting-/paintingtime...

My group are playing our first =I=Munda game on monday. And after reading this blog I can't wait

Great!! Tell us how it goes!

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Pictures?

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Hammer, Northen, Gurk and Pete - we need to find a weekend for the next game. At our new place quite possibly

Hi all, just a quick comment here. I´m knee deep in trouble, walking in project land at the moment, so it´s doubtful that my thread will receive updates before mid december.

But I just had to say wow once again, really enjoying reading about the exploits of Harker and Styg.

Excellent work on the narrative of the campaign!

Hey Xan, I hope things ease up. I've been overly busy for quite some time too, but this coming sunday Harker, Styg, Gauer, Krikham and Veron are in toruble again

Only two more games to go!

Hey I want to do this with my group. So here comes a stupid question. Is this just Necromunda with yall creating your own gang ? I'm sure there's some where to find yall's ideas would you show me so I can start this?

ghostmaker wrote:I'm sure there's some where to find yall's ideas would you show me so I can start this?

Errr..yes, this thread

I figured that. Was just wondering where else?
But So what did yall do for game play ? Could you explain how you made the rules set's work for each other?

Getting to the finale of the Jade Vessel campaign, which should be something special and hopefully come with a Hammer special treatment report

As you know, it's far from the end for =I=munda, as there are campaigns popping up everywhere and gorgeous gangs in abundance on this forum now. We have our second campaign planned for 09, beginning in February I think. The Legion will be my gang for that, but the Sahddes offe Greye will get reinforcements for a loooong time I am sure. In fact, I have a conversion mind that is waiting for the new Ork Plastics.

Should be great, more daemonhost goodness, and inquisitor warbands at each other´s throats!

I´ll be sure to keep an eye out for that report Migs.

+ the actual Jade Vessel revealed What ever it might be

Well finally I had this done, took forever again. Thou had some actual troubles painting it. First when I primed it, the paint didn't dry properly untill after two days of waiting. Then first test on the dark part of the hull came way too blueish, so had to re-paint it all. But in the end, I am quite happy.







For the pilot I added a gas maks to hide the "yawning" mouth.

Had it on the table mostly finished for nearly a month but didn't find the time/motivation untill last friday evening to finish it. Plus now everything is ready for the grande finale.

Let me know what you think

Excellent stuff Northen, really like what you´ve done with the muted grey colour choice.

I´m imagining that you´ve purposefully stayed away from marking it in any way since it´s purpose is to be stealthy and such.

If I was to say one thing about it, it would be that the engines and the areas around them could be dirtied up a bit.
It´s a little thing, but I think it would work wonders for the realism, which is such a great thing about your other models.

Also, I had to go back and have another look at the gas mask, excellent work there, looks shiny!

One hell of a job.

I agree with Xan that a bit of blackening could be in order for the paint behind those engines. Maybe even some bluing of the exhaust areas.

Love all of the other weathering you've done on it, and the color of course, pleases me ^_^.

Hmm, something is a bit off about the metal parts, they look painted (because they are, duh! ) but what I mean to say is that while the rest of the ship looks as if those parts are those actual materials the metal components look as if they were painted metal.

I know I'm being vague here, sorry! :(

I thought you were going to include a female or mohawked pilot instead of a normal one?