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NAVARRO wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: OMG! Clearly I must be acting with act with a cavalier disegard for the Hobby and its "rules" which say I can only use a figure for the game setting it was designed for, must NOT mix manufacturers, or use a similar figure . Emperor preserve my heretical soul for painting in non-codex schemes!!!

Please report to your Hobby beardy judge for some serious spanking, HOW DARE YOU!? You are not "a person that cares about the hobby", Shame on you!

My secret is out. THE SHAME! I shall fall upon my Official GW Measuring Stick in ignominy.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Why should one be forced to purchase exclusively from a single manufacturer to field a clearly generic figure?

Outside of GW you're not forced to. But again, why should I be restricted from complaining about the company's lack of ability to produce models to my taste?

They want my money, they make what I want to buy. If his offends you... sorry?

Wait, no I'm not-- I'm not sorry at all.

edit: .... Okay, so Iguess I'm going to put PhantomViper on ignore because he believes that stating one's opinion is the same as forcing it on someone else, which is a belief that so defies logic, intelligent thought, or reason that it makes me want to murder someone. This is not a pleasant fealing.

PhantomViper wrote:

And I actually like the Naga Sniper model, you calling it gak is again you trying to enforce your opinions on others.

Me too, reminds me of kerigan from starcraft.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
Am I the ONLY person in the world who scrolls through Maelstroms' catalogues looking for nice figures that might look good painted up and fielded in a given force? Or discard the 'ugly' figures and look for nicer alternatives? I don't spend all my time bemoaning that Designer X failed to exactly match my aesthetic requirements for "girl sniper two." I go out and buy a different one, often for less money than the original. Or I kitbash one. I end up with something unique. This pleases me.

No my friend not only your not the only one but any seasoned war gamer or collector has embraced that many moons ago. Its the GW and FOW generation that cant seem to think outside those ridiculous boxes... A shame really because many give up wargaming without even knowing what wargames are all about.

Melissia wrote:
edit: .... Okay, so Iguess I'm going to put PhantomViper on ignore because he believes that stating one's opinion is the same as forcing it on someone else, which is a belief that so defies logic, intelligent thought, or reason that it makes me want to murder someone. This is not a pleasant fealing.]

No, I believe that continually throwing insults like calling stuff stupid and gak and calling the people who make it perverts is trying to force your opinion on others. But go right ahead and ignore me, please.

PhantomViper wrote:

Melissia wrote:Why should one be forced to buy from a different company just to play the first company's game without buying gak models?

He isn't, no one is forcing him to do anything that he doesn't wan't.

If he doesn't like the model and he doesn't wan't to find / convert a replacement (and unlike "other" gaming companies, CB actively promotes the use of proxies, even from other companies), he can simply not play the game.

Miniature manufacturers don't have to cater to every single taste in every player in the world.

CB decided to make the game the way it is, you don't like it? Then don't play it.

And I actually like the Naga Sniper model, you calling it gak is again you trying to enforce your opinions on others.

This. This so many times over.

After reading the entire thread, I can say that I've never seen such a demand for pandering to one's specific tastes.

Melissia, I truly sympathize with your dislike of the models. But then saying that someone shouldn't have to buy different models from a different company to play the game they supposedly like is bordering on a form of lethargy and a sense of entitlement I can't fathom.

NAVARRO wrote:No my friend not only your not the only one but any seasoned war gamer or collector has embraced that many moons ago. Its the GW and FOW generation that cant seem to think outside those ridiculous boxes... A shame really because many give up wargaming without even knowing what wargames are all about.

I've looked through other catalogues, but my point still remains that it is the fault of the company that their miniature range is so limited.

gunslingerpro wrote:After reading the entire thread, I can say that I've never seen such a demand for pandering to one's specific tastes.

Why not? I am the customer. If they want my money, they give me something I want to buy.

<simmer down, and get back on topic, people>

Hint: if you're posting to discuss another poster's posting habits, you're a) not on topic; and b) at risk of violating some of Dakka's posting rules.

@Melissia - They clearly intend to create further miniatures. The other factions appear to have larger ranges, and I seem to recall someone saying that its a 'new" faction, so its not nonsensical to think that there might be a Naga sniper #2 or even #3 down the line.

Its hardly a "limited" line of figures though. There are quite a few to see, in a growing range. Or do you expect a company to immediately furnish you with a complete and whole range instantly for every faction as soon as they start trading? You struck me as more sensible than that.

OH man I love this place. Two week vacation, returning to a 12 page thread on Infinity Cheesecakes. Lol you guys are great.

FTR - I'm down with those pics I saw. Great line Infinity, for every piece of Cheesecake coolness in the line there are about 3 to 5 times the amount of coolness in the line from different flavors - giant robots, big guns, mutants, cool tech. Infinity is inventive, cool, and cliche in so many directions...it's just nutty.

It's definitely a great place to spend a little money.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:@Melissia - They clearly intend to create further miniatures. The other factions appear to have larger ranges, and I seem to recall someone saying that its a 'new" faction, so its not nonsensical to think that there might be a Naga sniper #2 or even #3 down the line.

Its hardly a "limited" line of figures though. There are quite a few to see, in a growing range. Or do you expect a company to immediately furnish you with a complete and whole range instantly for every faction as soon as they start trading? You struck me as more sensible than that.

I don't expect them to do it immediately, nor did I say I did. Only that it is a failing that needs to be corrected and that I wish they would give direct alternatives to the cheesecakse instead of making the only female in the unit a crappy cheesecake model.

MightyGodzilla wrote:FTR - I'm down with those pics I saw.It's definitely a great place to spend a little money.

The original post wasn't the one with objectionable parts.

There was a model posted, for example, of a girl who was bending over sticking her ass out with it covered in nothing more than a thong. It's really trashy and to me has no redeeming qualities. Same with the one of the girl in a see-through white shirt (including erect nipples) and ultra-mini catholic schoolgirl skirt taht was flipped up to show her panties. Also trashy.

Melissia wrote:Why should one be forced to buy from a different company just to play the first company's game without buying gak models?

Why feel you need to buy everything from a single manufacturer? There will always be models in any line that are not universally to everyone's tastes for a range of reasons.

Have to say that I am not a fan of furries, so I will be resculpting the single furry model that will be in my Nomad army; file off the ears, file the face and replace it with a cool helmet like the rest of the models in my force, and generally change its look to be more like a) what I want, and b) the look of the rest of the models in my army.

In the same way, if the range did not cater to my aesthetic sensibilities vis a vis cheesecake levels, I would either look for alternate models, or alter existing ones.

I have no issue with nudity, partial nudity or cheesecake where appropriate (and I have several such models that I have bought over the years because I like how they look).

However, in a wargame I want slightly more "realistic" poses and outfits and a more unified look across my force.

Infinity strikes an odd line where the technology is such that bodysuit armour is common and good enough to allow soldiers to have a minimal armour "profile", but also draws heavily from the anime "small girls with funny ears showing pants with big guns" design philosophy (which is one I do not particularly want in a wargame, as noted, thus I pick other models I do like (of which there are a number) to count as the models I do not think fit with what I want).

What's so bad with cheesecake models? If you don't like 'em don't buy 'em, simple as.

Besides this model looks awesome:

Without claiming to know what the specific ranks or titles mean 'in game' a quick gander through the ariadna range (Started with 'A' see?) shows me that 'cheesecake' miniatures are hardly the only females in that force. There are several with tits in, in 'combat' poses that mimic their male counterparts. There are a few that have Foden tattooed across their foreheads. The Ariadna looks like a reasonably comprehensive range, so I assume that other smaller ranges are intended to end up similar in size, and no doubt there are new releases intended as well. Thus I gather that the Infinity people are not solely interested in creating totty in spaaaace. From that I postulate that there will be alternative minatures in the Aleph range which are not "cheesecake".

Of course its possible that "cheesecake" (or its future sister) is the theme for this faction, in which case there won't be, and you should maybe look at a different faction. That is after all why most games have more than one faction.

Melissia wrote:There was a model posted, for example, of a girl who was bending over sticking her ass out with it covered in nothing more than a thong. It's really trashy and to me has no redeeming qualities. Same with the one of the girl in a see-through white shirt (including erect nipples) and ultra-mini catholic schoolgirl skirt taht was flipped up to show her panties. Also trashy.

Out of interest, would you be objecting to the shirt element of the latter model so much if the painter hadn't decided to use it as a test-bed for a translucent cloth effect?

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Melissia wrote:Why should one be forced to buy from a different company just to play the first company's game without buying gak models?

Why feel you need to buy everything from a single manufacturer? There will always be models in any line that are not universally to everyone's tastes for a range of reasons.

I don't, but I still prefer to use models from the company that designed the game as a show of support (after all, I'm playing their game).

Arm.chair.general wrote:What's so bad with cheesecake models? If you don't like 'em don't buy 'em, simple as.

Besides this model looks awesome:

That is pretty nice!

What range / manufacturer is it from?

Dysartes wrote:Out of interest, would you be objecting to the shirt element of the latter model so much if the painter hadn't decided to use it as a test-bed for a translucent cloth effect?

If the hard nipple effect is part of the model instead of a paint job (I can't tell, but I'm guessing yes), then I would still dislike it, yes.

PhantomViper wrote:

Arm.chair.general wrote:What's so bad with cheesecake models? If you don't like 'em don't buy 'em, simple as.

Besides this model looks awesome:

That is pretty nice!

What range / manufacturer is it from?

That's Ruby, one of the Studio McVey limited edition resin sculpts.

@ Armchair: Yeah, that one is on the shopping list.

PhantomViper wrote:

Arm.chair.general wrote:What's so bad with cheesecake models? If you don't like 'em don't buy 'em, simple as.

Besides this model looks awesome:

That is pretty nice!

What range / manufacturer is it from?

Studio McIvey, they have some real nice stuff

Melissia wrote:

NAVARRO wrote:No my friend not only your not the only one but any seasoned war gamer or collector has embraced that many moons ago. Its the GW and FOW generation that cant seem to think outside those ridiculous boxes... A shame really because many give up wargaming without even knowing what wargames are all about.

I've looked through other catalogues, but my point still remains that it is the fault of the company that their miniature range is so limited.

For a skirmish game that you get something like 10 minis per "Army" the selection for each faction is quite nice atm, slowly growing to cover all entries etc... Aleph is the new race on the block so they do have less than others, give it a bit of time.

Thing is, this is the company that wants your money by offering you choices, download free or get paper Rbook with extras for a price, get models or use proxies, use the free army builter etc etc... So your claims and Style of remarks are not adjusted with this company approach to the clients in general.

Thanks for the replies. Too bad that my painting skills would never do justice to a model like that.

NAVARRO wrote:Thing is, this is the company that wants your money by offering you choices, download free or get paper Rbook with extras for a price, get models or use proxies, use the free army builter

And this is relevant, how?

(hint: it's not)

Those facts do nothing to change my opinions.

That Studio McVey model is an amazing sculpt

I usually don't post image macros on non-image boards, <and you should continue that practice; it's a good one --Janthkin>

So, after all this, do we think that sales of Infinity miniatures have gone up or down?

I reckon UP. Too many nice figs to not buy some of them.

ArbeitsSchu wrote:So, after all this, do we think that sales of Infinity miniatures have gone up or down?

I reckon UP. Too many nice figs to not buy some of them.

well i bought some after seeing them on this thread, so id say up

Lol so did I. And a Dark Ages mini I spotted whilst shopping.