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 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

Well that weapon load out is rather lame, and looks to be the exact same load out of the Reivers. Which if correct means more strength 4 attacks... something that Marines are certainly not short of.

Hopefully the model comes with weapon options, I doubt it as that is something GW are moving away from... gone are the days of being able to personalise your HQ models beyond just cosmetic thrills.

I think the real take away from this is that the grave chute and bolt carbine will be OPTIONAL on the Phobis Leftenant.

He’s got the scary mask, do you think he’ll do the -1 LD thing the other Rievers do?

Yep and seemingly shock AND smoke grenades.

BrianDavion wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

Eh. More likely a super special 'Cawl brand' hammer that's slightly different and only theoretically better.

Voss wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

Eh. More likely a super special 'Cawl brand' hammer that's slightly different and only theoretically better.

Cawl pattern heavy thunder hammer. a heavy thunderhammer that gives a minimum of 3 damage.

Ah, the vaunted Cawl Maul.

I'd use it, I'd use the feth out of it!

That's the Shadowspear librarian on the right isn't it?

Herbington wrote:

Spoiler:

 Crimson wrote:

That's the Shadowspear librarian on the right isn't it?

Yes.

Herbington wrote:

Spoiler:

 Crimson wrote:

That's the Shadowspear librarian on the right isn't it?

No. The Shadowspear Librarian has his sword in his left hand. This model is holding something in his right hand.

Edit: NM, I see what you were referring to. I almost wonder if the second from the right is just the Phobos Captain.

Another one today.

So there's two previews this week. GenCon is Thursday at 3pm BST(10am Eastern) and Warhammer World's "Apocalypse" preview at 9am BST(should be 4pm Eastern) on Saturday.

BrianDavion wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

I REMEMBER, back in MY DAY, when every random edged melee weapon you decided to slap in the malformed U-palm of your horse-riding posed spaceman had the dignity to AT LEAST call itself a generic "power weapon".

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Ah, the vaunted Cawl Maul.

Nice!

Want this so that I can call it that!

Shadowspear Librarian on the left. Those appear to be Infiltrators. I can't wait!

For God's sake, just show me that Dread. I want to make another Mega Dread conversion.

From Twitter, a follow up, apologies if already posted..

Some of you asked if you could see a better close up of some of that stuff behind me?
But instead, here’s me again, in my Phobos armour!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

Another one today.

So there's two previews this week. GenCon is Thursday at 10pm BST and Warhammer World's "Apocalypse" preview at 9am BST on Saturday.

Did they change the time on the GenCon preview? The banner on Warhammer Community says 3pm BST (10am EDT)..

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

Another one today.

So there's two previews this week. GenCon is Thursday at 10pm BST and Warhammer World's "Apocalypse" preview at 9am BST on Saturday.

Did they change the time on the GenCon preview? The banner on Warhammer Community says 3pm BST (10am EDT)..

No, stupid me messed up.

It's 10am Eastern for the preview, 3pm BST--I started posting it in Eastern and then tabbed over to check the times, added BST.

OK, so in the first blurry pic we got the Libby and looks to be Captain, that means the others may be a phobos command squad of some kind?

 His Master's Voice wrote:
For God's sake, just show me that Dread. I want to make another Mega Dread conversion.

Yeah, they could hurry along already. The sooner we get to see the new Dreadnought, the sooner I get to say mean things about it.

Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

Voss wrote:
Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

We know that the Eliminators have an alternate weapon called a "Lasfusil" that was statted similar to the lascannon.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:
Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

We know that the Eliminators have an alternate weapon called a "Lasfusil" that was statted similar to the lascannon.

Hopefully different enough from the Heavy Plasma Incinerator that the Hellblasters have. Comparing the stats of the Apocalypse versions, the Las Fusil seems to be lower strength than the Lascannon.

The more this goes on the more I groan in my mind with how stupid primaris character loadouts are. FFS how hard is it to give them actual weapons instead of knives? Imperial guard platoon commanders have access to superior weapons ffs. Genestealer cult rigged mining tools and revolvers massively outclass the armament of primaris space marines like what the heck man.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:
Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

We know that the Eliminators have an alternate weapon called a "Lasfusil" that was statted similar to the lascannon.

Hopefully different enough from the Heavy Plasma Incinerator that the Hellblasters have. Comparing the stats of the Apocalypse versions, the Las Fusil seems to be lower strength than the Lascannon.

Frankly, I don't care about the Hellblasters. I've planned an all-Phobos incursion force. Eliminators will be there, Hellblasters won't.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
The more this goes on the more I groan in my mind with how stupid primaris character loadouts are. FFS how hard is it to give them actual weapons instead of knives? Imperial guard platoon commanders have access to superior weapons ffs. Genestealer cult rigged mining tools and revolvers massively outclass the armament of primaris space marines like what the heck man.

Agreed!

Hopefully this happens soon - along with their oft rumored codex, releasing...soon?

But even then, it is probably unlikely due to someone at GW apparently thinking that what we've gotten to date - and continue to get - is somehow...OK?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:
Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

We know that the Eliminators have an alternate weapon called a "Lasfusil" that was statted similar to the lascannon.

Hopefully different enough from the Heavy Plasma Incinerator that the Hellblasters have. Comparing the stats of the Apocalypse versions, the Las Fusil seems to be lower strength than the Lascannon.

Frankly, I don't care about the Hellblasters. I've planned an all-Phobos incursion force. Eliminators will be there, Hellblasters won't.

I get that. I would expect the Las Fusil to be 36" Str 8, AP-3, d6 damage or so. Perfect on the Eliminator platform. Depending on how things go, I will likely be adding more Phobos units to my army, provided they get a price balancing. Infiltrators are cool, but expensive.

I really want to see the new transport and what it can bring. I wouldn't be surprised if it could only carry Phobos. In which case, I will be swapping out three squads of Intercessors for Infiltrators (again, dependent on price).

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Voss wrote:
Well, the blur doesn't look quite as pregnant.
Hopefully it will have some proper AT on it. That's the main problem for the product line so far.

We know that the Eliminators have an alternate weapon called a "Lasfusil" that was statted similar to the lascannon.

Hopefully different enough from the Heavy Plasma Incinerator that the Hellblasters have. Comparing the stats of the Apocalypse versions, the Las Fusil seems to be lower strength than the Lascannon.

Frankly, I don't care about the Hellblasters. I've planned an all-Phobos incursion force. Eliminators will be there, Hellblasters won't.

I get that. I would expect the Las Fusil to be 36" Str 8, AP-3, d6 damage or so. Perfect on the Eliminator platform. Depending on how things go, I will likely be adding more Phobos units to my army, provided they get a price balancing. Infiltrators are cool, but expensive.

I really want to see the new transport and what it can bring. I wouldn't be surprised if it could only carry Phobos. In which case, I will be swapping out three squads of Intercessors for Infiltrators (again, dependent on price).

Which would be so awful. GW needs to stop fracturing the space marine codex with BS like Phobos only or Primaris only. The entire book would be a ton more playable if they returned to the NORMAL manner of having space marines be space marines. It's fine if some abilities are restricted to MAJOR differences in armor such as 4+ carapace, 2+ terminator but Phobos vs MK X vs Slightly Different MK X vs Slightly different 2.0 MK X? They're all just 3+ saves.