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 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
It's a cool model. Too bad it is yet another useless phobos HQ because they refuse to give them real weapons.

I'm unsure on this. That's a new style of Heavy Bolt Pistol, or at the very least it has an extended magazine.

Whoop-de-doo. I meant the melee weapon.

Oh yeah, I just LOVE all the combat knives that let an equivalent amount of points of Guard Commanders kill them in melee!
You can't even use the argument they're lightly kitted to do strict babysitting because the Manlet Marines are cheaper to do that. There's simply NO justification.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
It's a cool model. Too bad it is yet another useless phobos HQ because they refuse to give them real weapons.

I'm unsure on this. That's a new style of Heavy Bolt Pistol, or at the very least it has an extended magazine.

That's a pistol?

Voss wrote:

That's a pistol?

Its a Riever heavy bolt pistol with an extended magazine.

As a fan of Phobos armor, I don't get this new Lt model.

I mean it looks nice enough with an interesting dynamic pose. I can't say I am a fan of the extended magazine which kinda makes it tough to determine if it is even a pistol visually.

However, I don't see any reason to shell out any extra money for it. Especially Games Workshop single character model prices if that is what this is. I am far more likely to just take a Reiver model and promote it to Lieutenant instead. It seems more like a new store/promotional model than anything else.

Until more is revealed, again; I don't get it.

New librarian with a staff incoming in the background

Sign me up for the bandwagon for hating on garbage load outs for space marine primaris characters.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
New librarian with a staff incoming in the background

I am afraid that it is Primaris Tigurius.


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 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
As a fan of Phobos armor, I don't get this new Lt model.

I mean it looks nice enough with an interesting dynamic pose. I can't say I am a fan of the extended magazine which kinda makes it tough to determine if it is even a pistol visually.

However, I don't see any reason to shell out any extra money for it. Especially Games Workshop single character model prices if that is what this is. I am far more likely to just take a Reiver model and promote it to Lieutenant instead. It seem more like a new store/promotional model that anything else.

Until more is revealed, again; I don't get it.

Yep. At the price GW is asking for their character models, they should at least have unique gear and looks. This is just a normal Reiver.

After today's fluff piece, I'm wondering if we will see ultima or greyshield chapter tactics. Or something along the lines of the blood ravens 'use this one or whichever'

Voss wrote:
After today's fluff piece, I'm wondering if we will see ultima or greyshield chapter tactics. Or something along the lines of the blood ravens 'use this one or whichever'

Dont we already have that via the Indomitus Crusaders detatchment? They'd just need to expand what it affects.

He looks super bland.

Really wanting a generic primaris chapter master

I'm way more interested in the hover transport and thing that looks like a 40k equivalent of a Battletech Vulture in the background.

In any case, this is starting to get a bit tiresome. This the second time they used this same blurry pic gag with these exact same models.

Smoke grenade on the base seems like it'll match up to one of those rumour images...

My god. Smoke that isn't sculpted with sharp angles. They finally figured it out.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Voss wrote:
After today's fluff piece, I'm wondering if we will see ultima or greyshield chapter tactics. Or something along the lines of the blood ravens 'use this one or whichever'

Dont we already have that via the Indomitus Crusaders detatchment? They'd just need to expand what it affects.

Wasn't aware that was a thing. Was it the codex or the Vigil-whatever campaign books?

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
New librarian with a staff incoming in the background

you sure it's a Librarian? it's definatly a model with a staff but it looks like it's got a fair bit of bone work around the chest, given the Phobos Libby is on it's own sprue it seems odd they'd release a new mini, and not just put it out by itself, the primaris chaplain has a staff cronzium. could be a phobous chaplain. which could, at least on paper actually be semi-useful when used alongside reivers... although I'd still just take a phobos captains. (chaplains really need a re-work to be more useful.)

edit: on another note, I've got a nasty feeling supressors are going to be shadowspear only. as we don't see anything there that might be the multipart supressors.

That's not a guy with a staff. It's one model holding a blade weapon at waist height and the guy behind him holding his weapon (hammer?) Up high. And pretty sure that is either a command squad or close combat squad.

Voss wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Voss wrote:
After today's fluff piece, I'm wondering if we will see ultima or greyshield chapter tactics. Or something along the lines of the blood ravens 'use this one or whichever'

Dont we already have that via the Indomitus Crusaders detatchment? They'd just need to expand what it affects.

Wasn't aware that was a thing. Was it the codex or the Vigil-whatever campaign books?

Its in the first Vigilus Book. They get a Warlord Trait that allows a Unit with the Keyword to gain a second Chapter Tactic for the turn.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Voss wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Voss wrote:
After today's fluff piece, I'm wondering if we will see ultima or greyshield chapter tactics. Or something along the lines of the blood ravens 'use this one or whichever'

Dont we already have that via the Indomitus Crusaders detatchment? They'd just need to expand what it affects.

Wasn't aware that was a thing. Was it the codex or the Vigil-whatever campaign books?

Its in the first Vigilus Book. They get a Warlord Trait that allows a Unit with the Keyword to gain a second Chapter Tactic for the turn.

Ah. Then no, that wasn't the kind of thing I meant.

Sterling191 wrote:

Voss wrote:

That's a pistol?

Its a Riever heavy bolt pistol with an extended magazine.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of this current trend of putting a different number of rivets on a boltgun and giving it different rules, as opposed to giving the models access to, you know, actual different weapons that you can tell apart at a glance...*




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 SickSix wrote:
That's not a guy with a staff. It's one model holding a blade weapon at waist height and the guy behind him holding his weapon (hammer?) Up high. And pretty sure that is either a command squad or close combat squad.

Whatever he's holding, he does appear to be wearing bone or pale yellow robes.

It's pretty amusing that the players are annoyed at the amount of stupid Primaris Lt. models which then GW capitalizes on to create jokes about.

But then... produces more dumb Primaris characters and more Lts! Its like they're trolling their own player base (instead of producing playable marine rules and models)

Lt. looks sweet. I love that pose!

I don't care if that's Tiggy in the back there. All I want is Primaris Kantor so the faster we get through all the Ultra super friends the better.

Though a Primaris Cortez would be a fine consolation prize.

 Kirasu wrote:
It's pretty amusing that the players are annoyed at the amount of stupid Primaris Lt. models which then GW capitalizes on to create jokes about.

But then... produces more dumb Primaris characters and more Lts! Its like they're trolling their own player base (instead of producing playable marine rules and models)

except this is pretty clearly a new range of which a Lt is simply one of. and also remember for all the Primaris Leuiteants out right now, there are no individually avaliable primaris Lts you can buy.

I like White Scars. I never expect anything. I've been pretty accurate with my predictions for a while now.

Man, that lieutenant is bland, and in fact I think you could make a suitable proxy from the basic reiver kit. The only part on the lieutenant model that looks unique is the head and whatever that decorative bit on the minor shoulder pad is. Otherwise, I really hope that the rest of this release has something interesting to offer.

Edit:

Just checked the reiver sprue: the legs have the raised knee a little bit more out to the side when compared to the normal reiver running pose, the arm for the blade is angled further forward, and the heavy bolt pistol has a different magazine. Although it seems like you could pretty well replicate the sword arm by reversing the blade on parts 7 or 49 of the reiver sprue, and you could use one of the magazine off of the bolt carbines to extend the heavy bolt pistol's magazine.

And best of all, that Knife will sport the NASTY profile of S4 AP- and grant an extra attack, which goes hand-in-hand with the synergy of the aura abilities of both the Lieutenant and nearby Captain!

I am hoping he comes with a different head. That one just doesn't do it for me. But the rest of the model looks good. I really want to see the rest of the new models, especially the Infiltrators and Eliminators.

Wow a combat knife (hopefully and not what the 'Knife Fighter' has, i.e. nothing).

The pistol probably gets another shot if you roll a 6 to hit.

I can feel the heretics trembling from here.

This is getting really old now.

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Wow a combat knife (hopefully and not what the 'Knife Fighter' has, i.e. nothing).

The pistol probably gets another shot if you roll a 6 to hit.

I can feel the heretics trembling from here.

This is getting really old now.

Don't forget his aura that allows a re-roll of something!

Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.