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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's scandalous that they increase prices on old stock like that. The prices should go down as things get older, not up. They are literally the only brand seemingly in the entire world which does so and people are somehow fine with.

Well I mean aside from the rest of the wargaming market?

Whilst GW might have the most rises, I honestly don't really see any other brands lowering prices. A few might when they've historically had higher prices or if they hit really tough times and need to drum up sales fast. Or if they go for a material change to plastics or such; but as that often comes with a big up-front investment cost or increased shipping (using overseas) the customer doesn't always see a cheaper price.


The only reason many other products devalue is because the company wants you to buy the new thing. The Old Apple iPhone is "out of date" and they want the stock gone so that you are encouraged to buy the new model. And in general such products show a shift in technology and features.

 Overread wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's scandalous that they increase prices on old stock like that. The prices should go down as things get older, not up. They are literally the only brand seemingly in the entire world which does so and people are somehow fine with.

Well I mean aside from the rest of the wargaming market?

you mean that rest of the wargaming market were models and rules are going in sale months before they are replaced with new ones?

I have never seen any other wargaming company increasing the price on something that they are replacing with something new, specially not rules/books
and you actually can tell if a new edition or model update is coming around by what is going on sale

 kodos wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's scandalous that they increase prices on old stock like that. The prices should go down as things get older, not up. They are literally the only brand seemingly in the entire world which does so and people are somehow fine with.

Well I mean aside from the rest of the wargaming market?

you mean that rest of the wargaming market were models and rules are going in sale months before they are replaced with new ones?

I have never seen any other wargaming company increasing the price on something that they are replacing with something new, specially not rules/books
and you actually can tell if a new edition or model update is coming around by what is going on sale

GW rules also devalue when they go out of cycle, just only through 3rd parties as GW just withdraws them from sale. Though granted they will charge full price right up until the change over, though I'm led to understand that they will do a swap if you buy recently (and have proof of purchase) for things like codex (though its not something I've ever done).

But my point is that other brands don't devalue over time. The replacement or new models might not come with a price right, but they don't come with a price reduction either. And over time their range will increase even if purely by inflation and nothing else. I'm not denying that GW increases prices more so than most. I'm simply saying that the wargaming market isn't like many others and the products don't devalue over time. Heck look at Infinity, their models don't devalue (direct from them) and they pull things from sale all the time even without replacing them and keep those models in the rules as they cycle around their range.

it is not about a general increase or decrease in value but really just about the general RRP price increase
(and than the value of a Codex that is replaced next week is something very different from other companies books who are still valid in 5 years)

New higher prices for everything instead of just the new stock is pretty unique even within the wargaming market

It is only GW who is going to increase the price in line with the general price increase, even if it is replaced next week or if the stock is on the shelf for years already, where other companies reduce the price to clear stock before the new stuff comes in

I remember the "half the size of the box, only reduce the cost by a small amount that resulted in a net price increase of around a third for the same amount of models" which happened with LOTR.

Since then GW can feth off with any sob stories about "needing" to raise prices. It is corporate greed. Always has been, always will be.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
I remember the "half the size of the box, only reduce the cost by a small amount that resulted in a net price increase of around a third for the same amount of models" which happened with LOTR.

Since then GW can feth off with any sob stories about "needing" to raise prices. It is corporate greed. Always has been, always will be.

Only by a third? How uncharacteristically generous of GW. When they cut Dire Avengers in half they increased the price by 73%* on an already dated kit.

Fun fact, the price has gone up further in the meantime and Dire Avengers are now 110%* more expensive than when the unit was sold in a ten man box.



*In €, other currencies may vary.

I was gunna buy this new Nachmund but at $320 from GW and $250 from Local store (with discount) is a bit much. Usually would be $280 or $220 (from local), but tbh I only wanted the Eldar so will pass for this. Went up $30-40 in Aus (already massive mark up).

I understand they need to go up cause of inflation etc. Cause of same reason, I need to save my money, so I think will wait out for cheaper models on ebay etc or not get altogether no sweat off my sack.

In my case, the general vote of all the parts of my brain seems to be "you don't need that stuff quite that much" when accounting for the price.

It might be that the old neuron jar decides to change the vote for some other new product, but for the moment...

GW prices don't "need" to go up at all.
They would still have a very profitable business if they just took their rising prices on the chin.
They only "need" to raise prices to maintain their (exceptionally high) profit margin.

Yeah... these prices are starting to getting eye watering at this point. I won't get all dramatic and say I'm quitting GW; but I will be slowing down my purchases and cancelling some new projects I was considering. I still have a closet full of unopened kits I need to get after. That'll occupy my time for a while.

We were promised a 5% increase no? 10% for Blood Bowl and terrain right?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/stormcast-eternals-lord-commander-bastian-carthalos-2021



This AoS fellow went from $40 to $45, 12.5%, I won't go through everything but apparently they just couldn't help themselves to a couple extra points.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
We were promised a 5% increase no?

No -

WarCom wrote:In many cases, this will be about 5%. So, as an example of what you can expect on most kits, a box of Space Marine Intercessors will go up just £1 from £35 to £36.*

A few things are going up about 10% (e.g. books, scenery, resin miniatures), and there are a couple of outliers (e.g. Blood Bowl teams and metal miniatures) which are going up around 20%.

They worded it vaguely enough to give themselves some wiggle room.

Yeah. The $10 increase from $40 to $50 for blood bowl teams is ABOUT 20%.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Yeah. The $10 increase from $40 to $50 for blood bowl teams is ABOUT 20%.

Hey, if you round to the nearest 20 then it works.

It seems to be about a 10% increase, looking at my shopping list, so yeah they lied.

JWBS wrote:
It seems to be about a 10% increase, looking at my shopping list, so yeah they lied.

They didn't lie. They didn't tell the whole truth.

Like with Australian/New Zealand/Japanese prices. They said that they would not be raising the prices like they had in the rest of the world. This is technically true, it's just not the whole truth. The whole truth was that:

1). They didn't raise the prices on any existing products.
2). All future products got the same 5%-20% price increase that everything else got.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
It seems to be about a 10% increase, looking at my shopping list, so yeah they lied.

They didn't lie. They didn't tell the whole truth.

Like with Australian/New Zealand/Japanese prices. They said that they would not be raising the prices like they had in the rest of the world. This is technically true, it's just not the whole truth. The whole truth was that:

1). They didn't raise the prices on any existing products.
2). All future products got the same 5%-20% price increase that everything else got.

Yeah, note they said "In many cases, this will be about 5%." Many is doing a lot of work there. They could raise the majority of their prices by 10% or more and still have "many" cases where the increase was around 5%. Many does not mean all, or even most. Many people had Sisters of Battle armies prior to their plastic revamp, for example.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:
Yeah. The $10 increase from $40 to $50 for blood bowl teams is ABOUT 20%.

Hey, if you round to the nearest 20 then it works.

True!

One of the sadder things I have read from a gaming standpoint is someone said that the crazy price increases had them CONSIDERING not buying. That’s a strong commitment. And one that’s likely to have GW rapidly retracting the latest increases.

I am now NOT buying. The last round of increases made me reduce my spending - I very rarely buy direct, but live within a short drive of 3 GW stores as well as a couple of independent stockists - because I really had to start weighing up how much just getting a couple of things a month is costing me.

I’ve been playing nearly all systems for about 23 years now, but when the absolute basic things I HAVE to pay for in order to live are going up stupidly - seemingly every week - the things I don’t need have to be cut. I wanted to start an Eldar army… Nope. Chalnath… nope. Nachmund… nope. I started a Soulblight army but quickly realised the investment I’d need to make meant it was unfeasible. I really want to get involved with the upcoming Heresy release but dread to think how much the launch set will be. Combine this with rules (for 40k at least) that more often than not completely knock the wind out of my sails (I collect Farsighted Enclaves and run the 8… Thanks for the Tau codex GW) before I do even plan what to purchase and I’ll just get by using what I have already.

I started playing in 2014. I got two Ork Dakka jets to convert into imperial fighters. They were $35 dollars each at that point in time, now they are $80 each.

LOTR used to have double the amount of models in the kits AND for less price than they charge today. We also transparently know that those models had great ROI compared to the rest of their range.

There really isn't any reason for this level of increase in prices.

Having been through 6th, 7th, and 8th, I have no interest in 9th. All of those books are sitting on my shelf taking up space and I'm unwilling to shell out another $100 - $200 just play, only for them to sit there when the next edition releases. It's gotten beyond ridiculous.

 Sledgehammer wrote:

LOTR used to have double the amount of models in the kits AND for less price than they charge today. We also transparently know that those models had great ROI compared to the rest of their range.

There really isn't any reason for this level of increase in prices.

It's also extremely insulting the prices they ask for crapcast... sorry, Finecast LotR models. $50 for a finecast character. $75 for Gundabad Orcs. And the quality is HORRIBLE. The worst GW has to offer.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Yeah. The $10 increase from $40 to $50 for blood bowl teams is ABOUT 20%.

I really need to find out which 3d printers are supported in Egypt.


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 privateer4hire wrote:


One of the sadder things I have read from a gaming standpoint is someone said that the crazy price increases had them CONSIDERING not buying. That’s a strong commitment. And one that’s likely to have GW rapidly retracting the latest increases.

I remember when I decided rising prices meant I would not buy a book, a magazine, a mini or a bit from GW. That was around... 2001 or 02? When Tomb Kings came out.

Wonder how long that lasted.

Last book I bought from GW not part of a box set was... hm. First Newcromunda sourcebook.

Yeah, that showed me what I have to do going forward.

Question, did they also hike prices on tyranid warriors?
Because i have an inkling they once were cheaper just recently?

They've put the prices up on everything with the exception of all currently released products from prior to the increase in Oz/NZ/Japan/China.

All other minis, including new releases, have received a 5%-20% increase.

Not 100% certain if that included Forge World or not...

It does include Forgeworld, that's typically gone up about 10%.

Which is a really big deal given the already absurd prices they were asking for.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They've put the prices up on everything with the exception of all currently released products from prior to the increase in Oz/NZ/Japan/China.

All other minis, including new releases, have received a 5%-20% increase.

Not 100% certain if that included Forge World or not...

with exchange as it currently is for me atleast fw in $ is no concern really, however it wasn't my imagination then that warriors went from 45ish -50 chf... bit wierd that the malcador i ordered is cheaper than 9 warriors, but i guess that little potential side project just commited an imagination world existence.

Then again can we appreciate the fact that a malcador / many things from FW are now cheaper comparatively to normal elite troops in a decentish number?

Depends where you are. Forge World products for Australian customers sit around 40% more expensive than UK prices because *mumble mumble mumble*.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Depends where you are. Forge World products for Australian customers sit around 40% more expensive than UK prices because *mumble mumble mumble*.

I get the dreaded rest of the world category, despite being in a country that is in EFTA with the UK.Alas if they were to fix an exchange rate in CHF i'd pay quitelikely even more

Frankly GW's magic-wonderland exchange rate of currency can go shove off, its nothing more than nickle and diming players for the sake of pure profit but it works for GW currently, shame though that i see an ever lower rate of new players and especially an ever lower rate of their retention.

especially since a 2000pts army nowadays ammounts to sometimes more then what i have to pay locally for a decent gaming PC and some games ontop of it. NVM a full 3d printer set-up.

The lotr stuff got hit by about a 20% increase on FW. My previous order a year ago is 22% more expensive now.

At least one plastic kit got a 33% price increase as well. On average the whole range most have gotten at least 10% more expensive if not 12-15%.

40k and AoS didnt get hit too bad since it is mostly plastic models but LotR are a minority plastic and there are some factions that are only in metal or resin. FW precis are also very relevant for LotR over 40k/AoS since the majority of the new releases the last few years are FW resin and not GW plastic for that range.

I bought a recast Quickbeam (named Ent character) that is indistinguishable in quality from a real FW one (legit perfect cast) for the low low price of 125SEK instead the 726SEK it costs on FW. 10 SEK = 1 USD. It is quite funny that the price increase alone on that model was about the same as the total price of it from a recaster. The larger the difference in price the easier it will be for people to justify it to themselves to buy from another source. Just bought the model to see how good the quality of the recaster was and not because I even planned to use it. No way I would ever impulse buy anything from FW with their prices.