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I like AOBR and buy them all the time as I play both orks and marines, but i was curious if GW plans to release another starter anytime soon. Fantasy has more than one so...

There's only ever one starter box per edition. AOBR is it until 6th edition.

2012 I reckon. That'll be 4 years since the current edition. I think. Might be next year. I get confused.

Neither News nor Rumor.

40k also has more than one. There's the current set with Orks, there's the previous set with Tyranids, there's the 3rd edition set with Dark Eldar. Each set comes with gallons of Space Marines too!

Anyways, each edition gets its own intro set. 6th edition of 40k will probably have its own boxed set with Space Marines versus Chaos Space Marines or something.

Fantasy only has 'more than one' boxed set because it changed editions recently. The current HElves vs. Skaven replaced the old Dwarfs vs. Orcs/Goblins.

Absolutionis wrote:Anyways, each edition gets its own intro set. 6th edition of 40k will probably have its own boxed set with Space Marines versus Chaos Space Marines or something.

Ugh, I hope not, that would be pathetic, stupid, AND lame.

Polonius once posited Tau v. Sisters, which I thought was brilliant at the time. But when it comes to realitsically guessing a 40k set, you only need to guess one side.

Manchu wrote:Neither News nor Rumor.

It was asking if anyne had heard news or rumor.

Manchu wrote:Polonius once posited Tau v. Sisters, which I thought was brilliant at the time. But when it comes to realitsically guessing a 40k set, you only need to guess one side.

It won't be sisters - it needs to be a non-imperial enemy.

So far the list is
Marines vs Orks
Marines vs Dark Eldar
Marines vs Tyranids
Marines vs Orks

Chaos marines are too much like normal marines. Daemons are too wierd.
Tau would seem like a good possibility if the new codex is ready.

Draglide12 wrote:

Manchu wrote:Neither News nor Rumor.

It was asking if anyne had heard news or rumor.

Ah, let me explain further. News & Rumors is for posting News & Rumors and then discussing it. Asking if there are News or Rumors about anything is generally not allowed.


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@Scott-S6: How about Squats vs. Genestealer Cultists?

Scott-S6 wrote:

Manchu wrote:Polonius once posited Tau v. Sisters, which I thought was brilliant at the time. But when it comes to realitsically guessing a 40k set, you only need to guess one side.

It won't be sisters - it needs to be a non-imperial enemy.

So far the list is
Marines vs Orks
Marines vs Dark Eldar
Marines vs Tyranids
Marines vs Orks

Chaos marines are too much like normal marines. Daemons are too wierd.
Tau would seem like a good possibility if the new codex is ready.

Why can't it be sisters?
If it needs to be a non-imperial enemy play sisters against Tau. Although you would need someone to play Tau so you would have an imperial enemy.

Guard and Tau? That'd be good.

Daemon hunters against Daemons.
Throw the little people in at the deep end.
Also it would look badass.

As I said in the other thread on this. Imperial Guard versus Chaos Marines would be great. Make it a guard regiment that doesn't have plastic ( tons to choose from ). Plus having the marine side being chaos mixes things up a little. As most people will know its bound to be some flavour of marines. It always has been. And Chaos marines are the closest I feel you'll get to being away from marines not being in a starter box. But at the same time allowing another part of the good guys take stage. The workhorse of the Imperiums defence.

purplefood wrote:Why can't it be sisters?
If it needs to be a non-imperial enemy play sisters against Tau. Although you would need someone to play Tau so you would have an imperial enemy.

Seeing as Space marines is the highest earning faction in 40K by a long long way it makes no sense for GW not to release a starter set without them.

No matter how much non marines players moan it isn't going to change GW policy, if you want different races in the starter set get more players to play the race.

The reason why the WFB starter set has a variety of races is because they have a more even share of players for each race.

Seeing as SMs are the posterboys of GW, I doubt they'd fail to make it into a start set no matter how much veterans want it. Space Marines sell, and introducing them to kids as early as possible almost guarantees a good return.

It's how they manage to pack so much into a £50 starter set, the fame and popularity of the space manz soon sees them raking in profits after kids beg their parents for the biggest tanks in the shop to go along with their new ultramanz.

Chaos would be okay (and might coinicde with a new codex) but the way they are might scare a few parents in today's upside-down, politically correct society. Orks can be argued as generic aliens with a bit of comic relief, Nids are generic Aliens.

Deldar i'm unsure about, as I don't know when they were released, but comparing today's society to that of just a few years ago convinces me that they wouldn't be probed and inspected for a hidden, deadly meaning and would be just figures.

Now with people looking everywhere for hidden messages and reading between the lines just to try and find something, Chaos marines might be seen as a bad influence. But that's society for you; a few years ago i could play out on the street with a few friends all I liked, if I was that age in today's society it would be a lot stricter for no apparent reason other than irrational fears developed by society overthniking stuff.

But I digress; I feel that GW will keep the Space Marines vs ______ simply because it makes money; if it aint broke, don't fix it.

As for the next race in it... I can forsee possibly Tau (they're a fluffless race as it stands; fleshing them out with sending a marine scouting force into a newly fortified Damocles Gulf might be a good way to go to promote a new codex), Necrons (again, relatively bare fluff-wise with room to expand) or possibly even Eldar (more fleshed out than some other races, but still able to make for some good scenarios).

To me, it'll all depend on which codex they're releasing/they've released around the point a new start box comes into play.

BluntmanDC wrote:

purplefood wrote:Why can't it be sisters?
If it needs to be a non-imperial enemy play sisters against Tau. Although you would need someone to play Tau so you would have an imperial enemy.

Seeing as Space marines is the highest earning faction in 40K by a long long way it makes no sense for GW not to release a starter set without them.

No matter how much non marines players moan it isn't going to change GW policy, if you want different races in the starter set get more players to play the race.

The reason why the WFB starter set has a variety of races is because they have a more even share of players for each race.

I'm not saying it should be sisters. I'm just saying if you want a good-bad situation then sisters would be fine for that.

If they did do another starter set, i'd be all for one that didn't have the marines in it! Seeing that they've been in everyone since the beginning (as far as i know)

Hey... stranger things can happen!

Space marines and dark eldar..... box should contain 10 man tactic, with missile , flamer, land speeder,
and Dark eldar, 20 warriors(with only splinter cannons)
with trees( fake palm ones) and a building ( ok two corners of a building).... with the slappy sticks and twenty dice... Oh i forgot a huge a$$ rule book with painting guide in it.....

LOL

purplefood wrote:Daemon hunters against Daemons.

That's a good ideas, as you still get a kind of Space Marine in.

purplefood wrote:Why can't it be sisters?
If it needs to be a non-imperial enemy play sisters against Tau. Although you would need someone to play Tau so you would have an imperial enemy.

Because it will have marines in. Marines outsell all the other armies and WHFB combined.

I dont think they will offer anything else for now; and when it does change, I imagine the SM opponents will change with it (possibly back to DE now that they have a new lineup).

I le idea of Imperial Guard. I think we she talk about this more. Just saying ^^.

Guard vs. Nids would be awesome. Disciplined horde vs. undisciplined horde lol.

Scott-S6 wrote:

purplefood wrote:Why can't it be sisters?
If it needs to be a non-imperial enemy play sisters against Tau. Although you would need someone to play Tau so you would have an imperial enemy.

Because it will have marines in. Marines outsell all the other armies and WHFB combined.

THIS. As mentioned above SM are the poster army for GW, and are guaranteed a spot in any starter box. There might be an extremely remote chance of GK since by 6th they will have the plastics out...but likely it will either be Ultramarines or generic SM.

SM and Necrons would make a cool starter set.

It'll always be generic marines. They can be used for nearly every single chapter, including Chaos ones. More incentive for other people to buy the starter set to get discount tact squads.

No offense at all Melissia, but I'd love it if Chaos and regular Marines were in the next box set: Chaos has a bunch of units that could benefit from being plastic: Noise Marines, Plague Marines, Thousand Sons, a Chaos Dreadnaught, Havocs and Raptors come to mind. Realistically, I could see any of them in a starter box set (obviously not all of them at once). Marines could also use a few new toys in a starter box: maybe a thunderfire cannon, a plastic librarian, and possibly a meltagun armed Tactical Marine instead of a Flamer. After all, since Melta- is the meta- it would work out well. Anyone else think it's a good idea? Or am I nuts?

Eldar vs Orks

Imperial Guard vs CSM

...are my two favorite ideas.


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timetowaste85 wrote:No offense at all Melissia, but I'd love it if Chaos and regular Marines were in the next box set: Chaos has a bunch of units that could benefit from being plastic: Noise Marines, Plague Marines, Thousand Sons, a Chaos Dreadnaught, Havocs and Raptors come to mind. Realistically, I could see any of them in a starter box set (obviously not all of them at once). Marines could also use a few new toys in a starter box: maybe a thunderfire cannon, a plastic librarian, and possibly a meltagun armed Tactical Marine instead of a Flamer. After all, since Melta- is the meta- it would work out well. Anyone else think it's a good idea? Or am I nuts?

Space Marine 40,000. In the far future, there is only Space Marine.

No thanks.

I think marines vs. chaos marines would be kinda cool. Marines with tac squad, predator, some form of chaplain, and an assault squad (10 asault marines). Chaos with tac squad, daemon prince, noise marine squad, and a defiler.

StarGate wrote:Space marines and dark eldar..... box should contain 10 man tactic, with missile , flamer, land speeder,
and Dark eldar, 20 warriors(with only splinter cannons)
with trees( fake palm ones) and a building ( ok two corners of a building).... with the slappy sticks and twenty dice... Oh i forgot a huge a$$ rule book with painting guide in it.....

LOL

i suspect you know that was exactly the 3rd ed box.... am i wrong?

IMO, well, i'm one ot those who picks the big book, anyway, can be cool IG Vs something or Sisters Vs something, i know i know SM are the fancy kids of GW, i don't know if GW cares about, but a lot of people is discouraged for this...


a box of with SM, CSM or IG can benefit me (you know, moar boyz, even if its an SM) but still discourages someone who want to start (unless you're 12 or younger)...