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I just read a thread in backgrounds about chaos nids and decided it'd make a great army. Anyone have any opinions about what Chaos god nids mights serve, which would be easiest/most fun to model, and how I would model them?

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" Anyone have any opinions about what Chaos god nids mights serve"

that ones easy, slaanesh! just look at all of those tentecles. be sure to keep them away from the tau

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Lol, okay. I was debating between that and nurgle.

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nurgle could work too due to the eating and insect style thing. I'm not sure that nids would ever really work with chaos as the hive mind is very single minded, look forwed to seeing any conversions though never the less

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Meh, i think one of the chaos gods could easiliy posess some nids and bend them to their will.

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Draglide12 wrote:I just read a thread in backgrounds about chaos nids and decided it'd make a great army. Anyone have any opinions about what Chaos god nids mights serve, which would be easiest/most fun to model, and how I would model them?

As there are no Chaos Tyranids (Shadow of the Warp), maybe you find inspiration in other impossible army threads like on Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas, Chaos Tau, and Chaos Eldar, where people stick spikes and tentacles to anything no matter what the background says.

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Hey, I would say chaos soritas and chaos eldar are quite possible. Soritas are only human after all, and the eldar already worship khaine. Not that big of a leap to a god that provides some more tangible benefits.

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Chaos tau are impossible due to the lack of a warp print, chaos eldar are very possible though as are chaos sororitas (i do believe there was a case of a slaaneshi daemon princess from the sisters in canon).
   
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There's always the possibility that Nids themselves are actually Chaos and not Xeno, with the Hive Mind being their Chaos god ;D

Jokes aside, Nids and Tau have basically been stated to never go chaos, so whatever you do from this point will probably have to be made up by you. Tentacles will definately not be good for chaos nids, since they wont be noticable at all (you'd need to point out those are slaanesh tentacles and nto the nid's usual ones). Likewise Tzeentch will probably not work since Nids are already a biological mashup. Khorne and Nurgle are probably the best canidates, since you can have nids wearing brass armor or Rotting, zombie nids, which are much more noticable Chaos traits when mixed with nids.

Also, Chaos Eldar are the most likely. Chaos Sororitas are unlikely since their army is based in the ecclesiarchy (not the Witchhunter Inquisitors), and thus very unlikely to go chaos (note that I didnt say Traitor, that is still possible).

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Kroothawk wrote:As there are no Chaos Tyranids (Shadow of the Warp), maybe you find inspiration in other impossible army threads like on Chaos Grey Knights, Chaos Sororitas, Chaos Tau, and Chaos Eldar, where people stick spikes and tentacles to anything no matter what the background says.


I wouldn't put it in such absolutes. I can think of one book in the Space Wolves Novel series that mentioned a small hive of tyranids located in a space hulk that were corrupted by Nurgle. In regards to the Sororitas, the final Ciaphas Cain novel mentioned a powerful chaos psycher and warmaster, Varan the Undefeatable, who mentally dominated a chapter house of soritas on Madasa and turned them against the Emporers warriors on Perlia during one of the Black Crusades.

So while rare, it can happen in the vast ever changing story of Warhammer 40K.

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But isn't Khaine a different god to Khorne? Correct me if I'm wrong.

   
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Draglide12 wrote:Anyone have any opinions about what Chaos god nids mights serve



None since the "Shadow in the Warp" pretty much dictates that 'nids are NOT of chaos nor are they welcomed by the ruinous powers.


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Tyranid Horde wrote:But isn't Khaine a different god to Khorne? Correct me if I'm wrong.



Yes. He's the Eldar god of war (I think). VERY different from BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anything is possible, doesn't matter if it's in the book or not. Use your imagination and if you have fun building the army, that's all that matters in the end.

But for the sake of playing games, stick to one codex or the other. Like, it might be best to stick to the nid rules for them but model them to be more chaossy looking. You could make a big daemonid conversion and just say "this guy counts as a fex", give him 2 big nasty swords growing out of his arms and count them as scything talons, etc.

 
   
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Draglide12 wrote:Meh, i think one of the chaos gods could easiliy posess some nids and bend them to their will.



Not really. Only the synapse creatures are even vaguely psychic which is the one vital component to access into the material realm for daemons. The 'nids are largely "mindless" as they are simply the fingers and toes of the overmind.


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Irdiumstern wrote:Hey, I would say chaos soritas and chaos eldar are quite possible. Soritas are only human after all, and the eldar already worship khaine. Not that big of a leap to a god that provides some more tangible benefits.


Chaos Eldar?


FFS the Dark Eldar literally worship Slaanesh and started out as a "chaos eldar" conversion army WAAAAAAAYYYYYY back in the day.

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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:There's always the possibility that Nids themselves are actually Chaos and not Xeno, with the Hive Mind being their Chaos god ;D

Jokes aside, Nids and Tau have basically been stated to never go chaos, so whatever you do from this point will probably have to be made up by you. Tentacles will definately not be good for chaos nids, since they wont be noticable at all (you'd need to point out those are slaanesh tentacles and nto the nid's usual ones). Likewise Tzeentch will probably not work since Nids are already a biological mashup. Khorne and Nurgle are probably the best canidates, since you can have nids wearing brass armor or Rotting, zombie nids, which are much more noticable Chaos traits when mixed with nids.

Also, Chaos Eldar are the most likely. Chaos Sororitas are unlikely since their army is based in the ecclesiarchy (not the Witchhunter Inquisitors), and thus very unlikely to go chaos (note that I didnt say Traitor, that is still possible).


That's what I think. I think the hive mind is basically the chaos god of hunger and gluttony, and that the 'shadow in the warp' is really just an enourmous presence, rather than an absence of presence. See what I mean?

Maybe the chaos gods in other galaxies are different from ours, and that they work differently. Ie; hive mind. There could be other races like the tyranids that are slaves to other such chaos gods..possibly the god of fear, god of revenge, etc...More simple concepts, I think.



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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:There's always the possibility that Nids themselves are actually Chaos and not Xeno, with the Hive Mind being their Chaos god ;D

Jokes aside, Nids and Tau have basically been stated to never go chaos, so whatever you do from this point will probably have to be made up by you. Tentacles will definately not be good for chaos nids, since they wont be noticable at all (you'd need to point out those are slaanesh tentacles and nto the nid's usual ones). Likewise Tzeentch will probably not work since Nids are already a biological mashup. Khorne and Nurgle are probably the best canidates, since you can have nids wearing brass armor or Rotting, zombie nids, which are much more noticable Chaos traits when mixed with nids.

Also, Chaos Eldar are the most likely. Chaos Sororitas are unlikely since their army is based in the ecclesiarchy (not the Witchhunter Inquisitors), and thus very unlikely to go chaos (note that I didnt say Traitor, that is still possible).


That's what I think. I think the hive mind is basically the chaos god of hunger and gluttony, and that the 'shadow in the warp' is really just an enourmous presence, rather than an absence of presence. See what I mean?

Maybe the chaos gods in other galaxies are different from ours, and that they work differently. Ie; hive mind. There could be other races like the tyranids that are slaves to other such chaos gods..possibly the god of fear, god of revenge, etc...More simple concepts, I think.



This is very interesting! The Warp is so mutable and every changing that its very conceivable that 'nids are an aspect of chaos in the first place.....I stand by my statements regarding possession etc though.

Makes sense to me considering how downright chaotic the 'nid styling is.

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I would like to point out that although My opinion would be khorn for nids and play them as pure nids regarding rules the easiest fluff chaos god would probably be nurgle, the way nurgle works on its victims is spreading diseases and using nurgles rot turning its victims into its minions so if a bunch of nids caught a nurgle spawned infection of some sort and took it back to the fleet the hive mind might have no option but to seperate that arm from the rest so as to not become infected itself much like a surgeon will amputate a necrotic limb to save a pateint leaving a reasonably large force to rot and trun to nurgles controle?

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Yes. He's the Eldar god of war (I think). VERY different from BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!!!!!


Khorne and Khaine are different entities altogether. While it's implied that Eldar Gods might be similar to Chaos Gods in nature, they are different entities. Khaine in particular, since it was Khorne and Slaanesh who destroyed him, meaning there's no way the two are ever the same.

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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:There's always the possibility that Nids themselves are actually Chaos and not Xeno, with the Hive Mind being their Chaos god ;D

Jokes aside, Nids and Tau have basically been stated to never go chaos, so whatever you do from this point will probably have to be made up by you. Tentacles will definately not be good for chaos nids, since they wont be noticable at all (you'd need to point out those are slaanesh tentacles and nto the nid's usual ones). Likewise Tzeentch will probably not work since Nids are already a biological mashup. Khorne and Nurgle are probably the best canidates, since you can have nids wearing brass armor or Rotting, zombie nids, which are much more noticable Chaos traits when mixed with nids.

Also, Chaos Eldar are the most likely. Chaos Sororitas are unlikely since their army is based in the ecclesiarchy (not the Witchhunter Inquisitors), and thus very unlikely to go chaos (note that I didnt say Traitor, that is still possible).


That's what I think. I think the hive mind is basically the chaos god of hunger and gluttony, and that the 'shadow in the warp' is really just an enourmous presence, rather than an absence of presence. See what I mean?

Maybe the chaos gods in other galaxies are different from ours, and that they work differently. Ie; hive mind. There could be other races like the tyranids that are slaves to other such chaos gods..possibly the god of fear, god of revenge, etc...More simple concepts, I think.



This is very interesting! The Warp is so mutable and every changing that its very conceivable that 'nids are an aspect of chaos in the first place.....I stand by my statements regarding possession etc though.

Makes sense to me considering how downright chaotic the 'nid styling is.


To me, the nids resemble the sketches of the Enslavers, who originated from the Warp. Perhaps one of the little buggers returned and later became a Chaos god of Gluttony? However if Nids are indeed a facet of Chaos, that means none of them can actually "go chaos", since you can never have a Bloodletter worship Nurgle.

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Hmm, I can also see this working in the opposite direction - Tzeentch deciding it would be amusing to mutate chaos troops into Nid-like creatures (at least in appearance), resulting in nid chaos rather than chaos nids...

Anyway, re which Chaos power would best suit nids, I'm not keen on Slaanesh - to me the Nids have never taken any 'pleasure' in war, no emotion is involved at all. The others are more promising:
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Clang wrote:Hmm, I can also see this working in the opposite direction - Tzeentch deciding it would be amusing to mutate chaos troops into Nid-like creatures (at least in appearance), resulting in nid chaos rather than chaos nids...


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I say.... make them serve Korn. Hell nids shed alot of blood and leave many a skull around.

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Of course there is the infamous Sister Sin....who is unlikely to be related to Cardinal Sin


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Philippine humor, albeit quite corny.

Chaos 'Nids would probably be still under the influence of the Hivemind despite having been tainted and mutated by Chaos. The Gods would probably be powerful enough to fool them in to thinking that they were the Hivemind. 'Nids Chaos is more plausible imo.

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Haha. Not many people would get the reference sadly....

Sister Sin is in RT rulebook gunning down marines. Towards the end.


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I'd just like the point out that the hivemind/overmind isn't a big brain somewhere, or anything that could be described as a single creature. It's the collected consciousness of all synapse creatures.

Fluff wise, a chaos tyranid army just couldn't happen. The chaos gods feed off emotion (Anger for Khorne, glutony for nurgle etc etc). As the tyranid creatures are beasts of pure instinct (100% nature in the nature/nurture debate), the gods would have no interest in them.

If you're willing to disregard the fluff, then you'll definitely have scope to create a very cool looking army. I'd go with Tzeentch personally, all the bird/feather stuff would look very cool if done in the right way.

 
   
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I say buy a bunch of miniatures (doesn't matter what) and a couple Codices. Take it all and stuff it into a huge blender. Grind for 30 seconds or until sufficiently chummed. Dump it on the table and and glue together whatever comes out. You have a new army, complete with rules.

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