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Okay everyone i was chatting with my friend and we stumbled upon the topic of "what would happen if every ork in the galaxy allied with the tyranids"? Any Ideas??

Tyranids do not ally with anything. Ever.

The closest to "allying" with a Tyranid is managing to get one as far away from the Hive Fleet and thus Synapse as possible, pray that your containment unit is strong enough to hold it, and hope that you're able to control it once it reverts to the feral/instinctual behavior that it's programmed with once outside the range of the Hive Mind. (Note that the likelyhood of this happening is next-to-nil.)

Additionally, you'd also have to hope that you got lucky (in a sense, if you intend to keep/use them like beasts) and hope that you nabbed one of the ones with a digestive tract - otherwise it'll become irrelevant really quickly.

As for every Ork in the galaxy... Orks have a tough enough time allying with themselves unless there's the promise of a big enough fight. Not to mention that the 'Nids want to strip the galaxy of life - what good is a galaxy with nothing to fight? Thus attempting to ally with the Tyranids is something that only the stupidest Snotling would think is a good idea, if they could process it. Closest the Orks would come is trying to capture a few 'Nids and try to use them as some kind of Squig/Squiggoth.

So nothing would come of it because it wouldn't happen in the first place.

Fun fact - Tyranids outside of the Hive Minds influence can reproduce and build up a hive fleet anyway. As in Imperial Armour 4 - the Anphelion Project. From a few captures Hormagaunts, they reproduced all the way up to Heirophants.

Tyranids don't ally. They eat.

okay how about if the hive mind somehow took control of the orks and began using them as soldiers to fight along side of the tyranids?

Bwolf999 wrote:okay how about if the hive mind somehow took control of the orks and began using them as soldiers to fight along side of the tyranids?

Surely it would just harvest the organic matter to make nastier, spikier, hungrier creatures.

Not fully what im getting at, lol.

Like what would the combined might of the tyranids and orks cause to mankind and the other races in the galaxy?

If just the Orks themselves could rally all of their scattered warbands, they could sweep the galaxy clean. They're just not interested.

Bwolf999 wrote:okay how about if the hive mind somehow took control of the orks and began using them as soldiers to fight along side of the tyranids?

You need to read up on both races to see why this just wont happen. Orks just want to fight. Tyranids just want to eat.

The closes thing that could happen is that some Orks might tame or maybe lash down with collars and such a Tyranid down.

This would go horribly wrong, they have enough problems with Squigs.

Squignids. (Claim.)

If a neverending horde of extragalactic bioweapons joined with a swarming race of brutal warlords...

It goes beyond what I can phsyically type

@drownedRat117

agreed xD

you are all forgetting the ork proprensity for psycic power; their WAAAAAAAGH! is essentially a version of the hive mind that does not control but boosts (dont read into that TOO far please) because of their "I believe i can shoot out of a peice of junk" prinicipal, there could theoretically be nids controlled or supported by a waagh... that brings a maniacal laugh to bear.

baconlord44 wrote:you are all forgetting the ork proprensity for psycic power; their WAAAAAAAGH! is essentially a version of the hive mind that does not control but boosts (dont read into that TOO far please) because of their "I believe i can shoot out of a peice of junk" prinicipal, there could theoretically be nids controlled or supported by a waagh... that brings a maniacal laugh to bear.

Why would orks need to control nids? They are already the best according to themselves.

Well, I guess it is possible. You see, when a Daddy Warboss and a Mommy Carnifex love each other very much, the Daddy Warboss will put on some Barry White on the 5.1 surround sound (heavy on the bass), and pour some Courvoisier while the Mommy Carnifex will put on a lacy little getup, some pumps....Ill be in my bunk.

-Loki- wrote:Fun fact - Tyranids outside of the Hive Minds influence can reproduce and build up a hive fleet anyway. As in Imperial Armour 4 - the Anphelion Project. From a few captures Hormagaunts, they reproduced all the way up to Heirophants.

Tyranids don't ally. They eat.

Except there was still a Hive Mind influence.

The Anphelion facility housed almost every species of Tyranid known to the Imperium. From Warriors to Rippers and Genestealers to Lictors.

It's why they had such huge enclosures, because they were housing a very large and diverse population. They wanted to see how the things interacted with each other.

What ultimately was Anphelion's downfall was the fact that they didn't sever that Hive Mind influence and only capture/contain non-Synapse creatures. That Synaptic link resulted in the Tyranids continually evolving, and eventually you had the Raveners, Trygons, and the Winged Warriors, etc.

Kanluwen wrote:

-Loki- wrote:Fun fact - Tyranids outside of the Hive Minds influence can reproduce and build up a hive fleet anyway. As in Imperial Armour 4 - the Anphelion Project. From a few captures Hormagaunts, they reproduced all the way up to Heirophants.

Tyranids don't ally. They eat.

Except there was still a Hive Mind influence.

The Anphelion facility housed almost every species of Tyranid known to the Imperium. From Warriors to Rippers and Genestealers to Lictors.

It's why they had such huge enclosures, because they were housing a very large and diverse population. They wanted to see how the things interacted with each other.

What ultimately was Anphelion's downfall was the fact that they didn't sever that Hive Mind influence and only capture/contain non-Synapse creatures. That Synaptic link resulted in the Tyranids continually evolving, and eventually you had the Raveners, Trygons, and the Winged Warriors, etc.

There was also the case of a small swarm completely rebuilding Hive Fleet Leviathan from some biomass on Ghorala.

The closest you'll ever get to this conecpt is the X number of looted carnifex versions. You know, howdahs and hard-wired fex brains.
Beyond that, forget the idea. tops, you'd have them fighting the same imperial enemies by sheer coincidence but there would certainly be no brofist at the end (ala blood angels and necrons)

wait, what was the Anphelions Project?

theduncan wrote:wait, what was the Anphelions Project?

Imperial Armour IV: The Anphelion Project. It's basically the story behind Imperial Armour IV, giving Forgeworld a reason to do all of their Tyranid creatures.

Some became assimilated into the codex. *Points at Trygon*

The Trygon going into Codex Tyranids annoys the crap out of me. For one, it's too big. It should have stayed in Apocalypse. Secondly, Forgeworld pulled their Trygon model from their catalogue when GW released their plastic kit, and while being cheaper, there's some subtle differences that I prefer in the Forgeworld model.

Ditto, i'd rather have them make another unit than use the Trygon.

If anything, they should have just made it primarily a Mawloc kit with the ability to make a Trygon out of it, and dropped the Trygon from the codex. They would have still sold a lot of kits because the Mawloc is new, but still had their own plastic Trygon out there for people into Apocalypse.

AlexHolker wrote:Tyranids do not ally with anything. Ever.

they would just eat them

Bwolf999 wrote:Okay everyone i was chatting with my friend and we stumbled upon the topic of "what would happen if every ork in the galaxy allied with the tyranids"? Any Ideas??

Counterquestion: What would happen if mankind would ally with pizzas?
(or if Daddy human would be very nice to mommy Pizza ?)
See?

Could the hive fleet make a genestealer cult from the orks and just use there codex? i was planing on an apoclyses game against my friends space wolf army and well both my nids and orks are going to be on the same side.

oldone wrote:Could the hive fleet make a genestealer cult from the orks and just use there codex? i was planing on an apoclyses game against my friends space wolf army and well both my nids and orks are going to be on the same side.

If its just to rationalize why two armies are supporting one another you could always say the tyranid force is being drawn onto the battlefield to fight the opposing side due to lictor pheromones. These overriding their normal instinct to have a go at the closer imperial/alien forces.

Lexx wrote:

oldone wrote:Could the hive fleet make a genestealer cult from the orks and just use there codex? i was planing on an apoclyses game against my friends space wolf army and well both my nids and orks are going to be on the same side.

If its just to rationalize why two armies are supporting one another you could always say the tyranid force is being drawn onto the battlefield to fight the opposing side due to lictor pheromones. These overriding their normal instinct to have a go at the closer imperial/alien forces.

Or you could go with the better rationalization(and one that's happened quite a few times in fluff) of the Tyranids and Space Wolves being engaged in combat, with the Orks showing up for the Big Fightin'.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please, let us not argue about who killed what and who allied with whom. The answer is simple, and very peaceful actually...

If every one just simply laid down their weapons, and allowed the Tyranids to consumer your biomass, then there would be no more fighting and everyone would be allies.

The Hive Mind loves you... and your delicious biomass.