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I am new to Warhammer 40k. I decided on fielding a sisters of battle army with a few grey knights for fun. I have already had people say to me " You decided on a tought army weak, hard to find, blah blah blah". My question is how can sisters of battle field land raiders other than it being assigned to a inquister and his retinue. I have heard a few people say they can be taken as a transport option for the dominaters. I auzzie I spoke to on ebay told me this

"ssiters of battle codex is old, and has been QnA a few times and transport options, either rhino, chimera, landraider or imolator can be taken as transports for any unit that can be transported,
also, landraiders and immolators taken as transport arnt considered heavy support if done so.
landraiders are the only way to get lasscannons in the army to"

I just want to know if a Sister of battle army can field a land raider or basiclly any armor save for exorcists, immolators, and rinos.

err no?
and GKs are part of different army anyway

Your informant is mistaken - the squads that can take transports explicitly state which they may have. Land Raiders are for the Inquisitor retinues only. In addition these still have limits on group size - they're not allowed transports if the squad doesn't fit.

But don't worry about AT - the humble battle sisters with meltaguns are supposed to handle most of it.

And they have one of the better Heavy Supports. You can never say no to d6 ap1 krak missiles...or 3d6.

ForsakenGod wrote:
I just want to know if a Sister of battle army can field a land raider or basiclly any armor save for exorcists, immolators, and rinos.

Yes, your army can field a Land Raider. You can, in fact, field 5 Land Raiders (2x HQ, 3x Elites) - but each one requires an Inquisitor so that it may be purchased as a part of the retinue.

They are not specified as Dedicated Transports, but the option says "May be mounted in..." suggesting that they have to deploy inside (this isn't really clear).

In any case, if the Inquisitor/Retinue disembarks, a Sisters squad may embark onto the Land Raider once the game begins. I do the exact same thing to get my Tankbustas into a Trukk - buy it for a unit of Boyz, deploy the 'Bustas behind it, and embark on the first turn!

isnt it in their heavy support? you could look at the free codex

It's not in their Heavy Support. It's only available for Inquisitor Retinues.

Then no.

You will have to get your Inquisition on

there's always apocalypse where you can pretty much mash up anything into your force... but in normal 40k, landraiders are somewhat restricted by the rules and even the fluff. at the end of the heresy, horus' mechanicus buddies controlled alot of forgeworlds and the loyalist production of LRs was severly restricted; the emperor decreed that LRs would be prioritized for marine forces. over the past 10,000 years, no one would countermand the emp's order so its stayed that way for the most part.

If you run them as allies with Space Marines then you can. The marines have to be the root army or it will not work. In my opinion it is not worth it, even the Inquisition route.

So attached to a inquister retinue it is then . Thanks I just needed a final call. Also what type of land raider may I field? And as for the first comment I have some grey knights and a grey knight inquister. I was going to field them in reserve from time to time. I even have enough to field a Grey knight 500 ponit force if I wished. As for the Space marine allies I believe it states that you can not bring in allies heavy support in the witch hunter codex. For ether space marine allies or imperial guard allies. Im thinking of arming myself with meltas and multi meltas and a few domination uints mounted in rinos with extra armor as my "tank hunters".

The codex has a specific list of which units you may "induct" be it SM or IG. You do not get a choice based on FOC slot.

I just looked trough all the codexs and no where does it say I can "not" take grey knights into my army as allies. Doesn't make sense if I couldn't anyways they are all part of the inquisition.

ForsakenGod wrote:I just looked trough all the codexs and no where does it say I can "not" take grey knights into my army as allies. Doesn't make sense if I couldn't anyways they are all part of the inquisition.

No, but they do tell you what one you "can" take as allies. GK are not one of them.

Um there are photos in the back of grey knights as allies

ForsakenGod wrote:I just looked trough all the codexs and no where does it say I can "not" take grey knights into my army as allies. Doesn't make sense if I couldn't anyways they are all part of the inquisition.

that's not how these games work. you must be specifically allowed to do something, not necessarily specifically excluded. no where in your codex does it say that you can "not" win on a roll of 2+ rerollable prior to the game but that doesn't mean you can. some rules convienently happen to list both.

that being said... unfortunately you're talking about the two oldest codicies in the 40k universe and they both refer to units/armies that don't exist any more. If you're using witchhunters as your base army, you must take your two troops and an hq from there. if you want to add grey knights as allies, you have to refer to the daemonhunter ally rules in the physical codex pg. 21 (they're not in the downloadable one on the GW website). unforunately, witchhunters is not listed as an army you can ally. what is listed is Sisters of Battle which was its own army prior to the release of the witchhunters codex and which was replaced by it (it also refers to IG and SM independent armies that don't exist anymore). the vast majority of reasonable players will allow you to take the allies due to the wonky wording that worked when the books were released but not 10 years later but its still effectively an opponent's permission thing. assuming they give you permission, you then can add the force org types listed in the same side bar to your army following the normal force org limits (2 hq, 6 troops, 3 elites, etc)

BUT, you can take Sisters of battle as allies to a Daemonhunters force. So make sure you have a Daemonhunter inquisitor and/or Grey Knight Grand Master, and two squads of either inquisitorial stormtroopers or grey knights to fill your compulsory, then you can take sisters and witchhunter units for the rest as allies.

edit: And what I'm talking about is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the witchhunters codex. It talks about using sisters as allies, and says which codexes can use them - and Daemonhunters is one of them. So make sure your compulsory HQ and 2x troops are chosen from the Daemonhunters codex, then get any sisters units you want. And yes, the lord can take a landraider. Nobody else can deploy inside it, but after the game starts he can feel free to jump out and let the sisters ride - not the best choice though, as sisters tend to do better in a rhino or chimera where they can fire out the top of it.

i do have a grey knight inquistor I picked up just in case. And for putting sisters in the land raider. I would just field it for the tank poping power. But at a 250 ponit cost I dont see useing it unless Im playing a 1500 ponit game at least.

ForsakenGod wrote:i do have a grey knight inquistor I picked up just in case. And for putting sisters in the land raider. I would just field it for the tank poping power. But at a 250 ponit cost I dont see useing it unless Im playing a 1500 ponit game at least.

you don't need the ally rules for taking a land raider as the WH inquisitor can take that ride. you do need the ally rules (and DH codex) if you want to take the GK though.

You want a LANDRAIDER for TANK HUNTING? That costs a LOT of points and can be destroyed, or at least shaken, without much difficulty.

Why not take two Exorcists instead? it'd cost you just 10 more points and probably do a much better job against everything but a Monolith.

I do have two exorcists already Im currently paniting them. I'm just asking questions on if I can field one and why. As for the GK allies. Im not playing tournament and mostly with my gaming group that started with me some of the fellows have been playing for years. I have 8 greay knights 2 justicars 1 brother captain terminator ad 4 terminators for the grey knights. I planned on using them as allies once in a while to mix things up or even run them I do own both codex for both the wh and gk. But my wh force is mostly sob.

Eh, for casual games, go by that part of the DH codex that says "Sisters of battle" may use them as allies. That later became what is now the Witchhunters codex, so for the vast majority of people that's fine and dandy.

Even your local tournaments, if they're with the local crowd, should allow it. Just to keep things straight if you want to attend a GT or something with that army, add a second squad of Grey Knights or at least pick up a squad of Inquisitorial Stormtroopers [a troops choice in BOTH codexes, so you can use them in your regular army too] so you can make it "officially" legal.

I was thinking about getting 2 squads Inquisitorial stormtroopers anyways and 2 chimeras

You can ally witch hunters to daemon hunters in any mode you choose. Either can be the dominant army choice per p25 C:WH and p21 CH. The trick becomes which army is restricted in choices to fill in the FOC. So if you want to use Exorcists then you must choose WH for your main army and DH for the allied army, since you can not bring Heavy choices from the allied army. Therefore you must field 1 HQ and 2 Troops from the WH codex before adding DH.
You will not be gaining any Landraiders from this trick since both codices only allow raiders to be chosen from the same slots. So anytime you take a DH landraider you could just as easily taken it from WH.

Spellbound wrote:Eh, for casual games, go by that part of the DH codex that says "Sisters of battle" may use them as allies. That later became what is now the Witchhunters codex, so for the vast majority of people that's fine and dandy.

Even your local tournaments, if they're with the local crowd, should allow it. Just to keep things straight if you want to attend a GT or something with that army, add a second squad of Grey Knights or at least pick up a squad of Inquisitorial Stormtroopers [a troops choice in BOTH codexes, so you can use them in your regular army too] so you can make it "officially" legal.

Daemonhunters FAQ wrote:Q. If an army can ally with Sisters of Battle, can
it also ally with Witch Hunters?
A. Any reference to units or armies that are able
to ally with 'Sisters of Battle' can also be read as
being able to ally with 'Witch Hunters'.

I'd hope that would be official enough for most people.

Daemonhunters FAQ

Well heres a question, Buddy of mine thats learning the game alone with me is fielding a land raider with his space marine force .... How would a sisters of battle army take down a land raider?

ForsakenGod wrote:How would a sisters of battle army take down a land raider?

Seraphim with Inferno pistols and veteran superior toting Meltabombs or just a regular humble sister with a Meltagun.

Or just ignore it while you kill all his scoring units with massed flamers and Divine Guidance. A lone Land Raider is as impotent as a Necron Monolith at that point.

You can take 2x meltas at least in just about any SoB unit..I think that answers that.

really ... normal meltas not multi meltas are good can openers?

Both are good can openers. I'm not a fan of Seraphim though. Inferno Pistols are 3" melta weapons.

Handy if you have them but don't rely on them to get rid of the vehicles.