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Terminators



Tacticals



Sternguard



Sergeant w/ Banner



The Angel of Retribution (The Sanguinor)



Sanguinary Priest



Lucifer the Black (Mephiston)



Deathpriest Leonidas (Lemartes)



The Lost (Death Company)



Attack Biker



Assault Squad (And the prototype for this chapter)






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Sorry for the terrible camera work, I just cant get the lighting right.

I know it is not the best... but it is the best I can do at my current skill level (Which is fairly low)

I am proud of it anyway.

I like the variable colour schemes. some of the conversions are pretty nice too!

The Angel of Retribution looks great!

Wow. Really like the Angel of Retribution... very scary.

Thanks for the great feed back guys... After looking at the pictures, I have notices that the white looks terrible. I am gonna spot strip it and try for a smoother coat...

I already water down the white, but does anyone have any tips specifically for painting the white so it is smooth (er) ?

Cool mate!

whats the background to they, bar being a blood angels successor

Nice conversion on the Sanguinor.

The Sanguinor is a Sanguinary Guard Body and Wings. Wing extensions and the "Hood" come from bits out of the "Ravenwing" battle box.

The Arms are Assault Terminator armys shaved down to take a normal sized SM shoudler pad.

On the hood, I carved out the face and filled in the empty space with modeling clay and painted it black.

so whats the chapter's background, this is the background forum (not wanting to sound rude)

Chapter Name: The Blades of Sanguinius

Chapter Founding: 12th Founding

Chapter Master: Lucius Von Drakemoor

Chapter Symbol: (See Below)



The Blades of Sanguinius were created during the 12th founding. No other Chapter from the Blood Angels 12th founding has survived, save for the Blades. The Blades specialize in the Assault. From Planetary Strikes to Squad Level maneuvers, if it must be taken, and taken at the tip of a blade, then the Blades of Sanguinius is your answer. Close combat is where the blades of Sanguinius have sharpened their weapons to a mono-molecular edge, but they are a dying chapter. Only five companies remain of the Blades, the process of becoming is Blade of Sanguinius is wrought with peril, more so than any other. Many don’t survive the recruitment test, called a “Blooding” so difficult has it become that 5 of the last 7 “Bloodings” have not yielded a single recruit. In the blooding, three boys must kill a unarmed space marine. Originally the thought that if three adolescents could kill a Space Marine, then he wasn’t much of a Marine, and they would have 3 recruits to take his place. But so skilled have the remaining Blades of Sanguinius become, that despite the decision to fully arm and armor the aspirants, rarely is the Marine killed. And even then, he is able to kill 1 or 2 of the aspirants, thusly replacing the battle brother with a lowly aspirant who is further unlikely to survive the process of becoming a Blade of Sanguinius. The Librarium has met numerous times, to review the recruitment process, but to no progress. It is whispered that the blooding will be stopped for a century and a different method of choosing aspirants to fill the ranks will be utilized. This has caused much turmoil in the rank and file marines, but all will do as they are ordered, without fail, if not without a choice word or two.

Gene seed Note: The “Red Thirst” affects the Blades deeply, and many times, the entire battle force will be affected (Although the Death Company of a Blades battle force is rarely above 10) - This may be due to the deeply rooted effects of the Red Thirst on The Blades of Sanguinius’ marines, given that they lust for blood so fiercely that the black rage would lessen their ability to drink the blood of their foes!

**Inquisitorial Note: The exsanguination, and mastication of many enemies/allies in the wake of a Blades assault is speculative, and circumstantial at this time, although it does warrant a deeper investigation.

TBC - - -

i think their recruitment method means they deserve to die out, other than that i like it

BluntmanDC wrote:i think their recruitment method means they deserve to die out, other than that i like it

I dunno.... seems pretty much like "Imperial Precident" to me.

One dies so others can live to fight on for the Imperium forever.

Connor McKane wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:i think their recruitment method means they deserve to die out, other than that i like it

I dunno.... seems pretty much like "Imperial Precident" to me.

One dies so others can live to fight on for the Imperium forever.

Bluntman has a point. It's a pretty dumb recruitment technique and i collect a chapter who decided to make recruits walk through the harshest mountains of an icy cold deathworld inhabited primarily by wolves (That don't exist).

purplefood wrote:

Connor McKane wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:i think their recruitment method means they deserve to die out, other than that i like it

I dunno.... seems pretty much like "Imperial Precident" to me.

One dies so others can live to fight on for the Imperium forever.

Bluntman has a point. It's a pretty dumb recruitment technique and i collect a chapter who decided to make recruits walk through the harshest mountains of an icy cold deathworld inhabited primarily by wolves (That don't exist).

i don't quite get what you mean by imperial precident, yes the IoM do kill millions of humans to protect the rest, but thats from the threat of corruption. there isn't a precident for a chapter that willfully trys to kill its own marines.

Well look at it this way.

What better way to test a recruit? You think it is easier to kill a Loyalist Space Marine than a CSM? If you have a recruit capable of killing a full battle brother then you know you are getting a recruit as good or better than that Marine. No different than a young lion killing an old lion to lead the pride. It is simply survival of the fittest.

If you read the fluff of Space Marines the recruitment process is deadly for the recruits. So this is no different in that aspect...

Also many times the recruits are pitted against the training cadre in combat, and more than one space marine instructor has been killed ay a recruit. Either in an accident or in a rage.

It would also cull weakness from the Chapter. Any marine falling to 3 "boys" is either past his prime, or his skills are wanting.

You might think it is a "Stupid" recruiting method, but we will agree to disagree... It may not get them alot of recruits, but the ones it does bring are of very high ability/gene-stock.

BTW - The IoM sacrifices thousands of Imperial Citizens daily just to keep the Golden Throne Operational.... If you believe the IoM is "The Good Guys" you need to read some of the older fluff.


Soo... there it is.

purplefood wrote:
Bluntman has a point. It's a pretty dumb recruitment technique and i collect a chapter who decided to make recruits walk through the harshest mountains of an icy cold deathworld inhabited primarily by wolves (That don't exist).

There are no wolves on Fenris.

Anyway the recruitment seems counter productive to me. At least haivng the recruits fight each other weeds out the weak ones. However killing your own battle brothers to make more is a sure fire way to kill off your chapter.

EmilCrane wrote:

purplefood wrote:
Bluntman has a point. It's a pretty dumb recruitment technique and i collect a chapter who decided to make recruits walk through the harshest mountains of an icy cold deathworld inhabited primarily by wolves (That don't exist).

There are no wolves on Fenris.

Anyway the recruitment seems counter productive to me. At least haivng the recruits fight each other weeds out the weak ones. However killing your own battle brothers to make more is a sure fire way to kill off your chapter.

No. At worst you replace one sub-par marine. At best you have 3 recruits to take a weak Marine's place. Besides, most times the recruits DONT kill the marine. It isn't like they tie the marine down and try to kill him. Are you even reading the background or are you just on the band wagon of "this sucks" as it may... It is as much a test for the Marine as it is for the recruit.

How is this any worse than a Marine swearing a "Death Oath" and going off to die against overwhelming odds? Maybe it is a great honor to be chosen to test recruits for your chapter?

Either in battle or in single combat versus possible aspirants, battle is battle, and dying in battle for the betterment of the chapter and the IoM is the greatest honor one can achieve?

Plus the fact that EVEN IN THE FLUFF, I wrote that the chapter recognizes that it is not a great recruitment process... please read what you are commenting on.

Connor McKane wrote:

No. At worst you replace one sub-par marine. At best you have 3 recruits to take a weak Marine's place. Besides, most times the recruits DONT kill the marine. It isn't like they tie the marine down and try to kill him. Are you even reading the background or are you just on the band wagon of "this sucks" as it may... It is as much a test for the Marine as it is for the recruit.

How is this any worse than a Marine swearing a "Death Oath" and going off to die against overwhelming odds? Maybe it is a great honor to be chosen to test recruits for your chapter?

Either in battle or in single combat versus possible aspirants, battle is battle, and dying in battle for the betterment of the chapter and the IoM is the greatest honor one can achieve?

Plus the fact that EVEN IN THE FLUFF, I wrote that the chapter recognizes that it is not a great recruitment process... please read what you are commenting on.

Chill, I'm just giving my thoughts on it. You do make a convincing point, but the possibility that the chapter could lose a trained veteran wouldn't sit well with me.

I am chilled... - But the point of the recruitment process is to make sure that there is no "degeneration" of the chapter. In either skill or in stock.

They are already dealing with the "Flaw." So every Son of Sanguinius marine has to be worth 100's of enemies...

If he can't kill 3 non-marine adolescents... well then there is a problem with that marine.

I think everyone might feel that the fight may be too unfair for the marine... believe me that it is not. The chapter masters want the best recruits. Only. A recruit that is able to kill a fully fledged battle brother? Sounds better than picking some guy who was able to kill some other guy, and therre was no way to judge how good that OTHER guy was... they know how well trained the Battle Brothers of the Blades of Sanguinius are... it is the gold standard.

Also there is no mention of "WHO" is chosen. Perhaps the Marine chosen has failed his chapter? Shown cowardice in the face of the enemy? Or has been shamed, and instead of throwing his life away by walking into the Eye of Terror, he has been granted redemption by being chosen to test new recruits. How about a marine given over to the black rage? Better to die in battle testing recruits than to have your head chopped off by Aziroth?

It isn't like they held a lottery, walked into the mess hall and said. "Jenkins, grab your crap and get on this Thunderhawk, you are dying for your Chapter today."

Come on guys, this is SUPPOSED to be grim dark.

(Caps is for emphisis, not yelling or being "unchill")

The gold reminds me of Ironman....little ostentatious don't you think? Yes, I had to quote the movie. First thing I thought when I saw it, although I love the Sanguinor conversion. Looks substantially like Tyrael from Diablo.

The fluff, I think I would need to see more before I made a judgement. The 'Blooding' could be an interesting tool to take them away from just being generic Blood Angels, but you need to do more with it, I.E Who are the marines that the recruits face? Are they marines that have failed in some way/dishonored themselves or fallen to chaos? Are they Astartes that are yet to earn their first service stud, or are they veterans that may be 'losing their edge' (Not that Astartes ever really do that), or perhaps even the sergeants that trained them? It needs to be developed more, otherwise it just seems like you're throwing away loyal battle brothers, somthing a loyalist chapter wouldn't do without a true purpose beyond just tradition.

Could always scale it back slightly, and take it down the road of Spartacus, and have the initiates have to fight a marine one on one to a stand-still at least for a certain period of time, or meet death. Takes out the element of sacrificing loyal Astartes, and still gives you the ability to say 'The Blades becoming so skilled has rendered the Blooding harder for Initiates, because now it's harder for them to match them in battle.'

Just an idea.

I do appreciate the feed back but the more I take my position, the more I like it. I like the fact that they are willing to die to strengthen the chapter.

So Thanks but I am gonna leave it the way it is.

The best idea I've heard so far is that its what they do with the brothers who have fallen to black rage. That way they only lose a brother who is already gone and if a recruit can kill a black rage marine well I want that guy when we're picking sides.

Connor McKane wrote:Well look at it this way.

What better way to test a recruit? You think it is easier to kill a Loyalist Space Marine than a CSM? If you have a recruit capable of killing a full battle brother then you know you are getting a recruit as good or better than that Marine. No different than a young lion killing an old lion to lead the pride. It is simply survival of the fittest.

If you read the fluff of Space Marines the recruitment process is deadly for the recruits. So this is no different in that aspect...

Also many times the recruits are pitted against the training cadre in combat, and more than one space marine instructor has been killed ay a recruit. Either in an accident or in a rage.

It would also cull weakness from the Chapter. Any marine falling to 3 "boys" is either past his prime, or his skills are wanting.

You might think it is a "Stupid" recruiting method, but we will agree to disagree... It may not get them alot of recruits, but the ones it does bring are of very high ability/gene-stock.

well of coarse they have a high geneseed stock they never have any asprints to put them into, the fact that your chapter would have shody marines capable of being killed by 3 normal humans makes the chapter look bad.

just because nearly all recruitment tests are dangerous doesn't mean this one fits in

so you kill 1 full trained marine, with all the time and geneseed needed to make one, so you can have 3 possible humans that MAY survive the enhancements and MAY survive the training.

you chapter deserve to die out, it is a terrible idea, sorry you can disagree, but its terrible.

Connor McKane wrote:BTW - The IoM sacrifices thousands of Imperial Citizens daily just to keep the Golden Throne Operational.... If you believe the IoM is "The Good Guys" you need to read some of the older fluff.

who said they were the good guys (and you can actually read alot of modern fluff showing it to be bad), the IoM is the do everything so that humanity survives (not all humans). those psykers that are sacrificed are unable to control their power and present a danger to the rest of humanity and the throne is kept active so that the IoM doesn't collapse leading to human worlds cut off, warp travel a thousand times more difficult and billions of humans dieing.

Hello, folks! I just was stopping by to read Connor's thread when uh oh theres someone in need of correction.
A preface to this is that my Space Marine Chapter's test is that if you can't write a 5 page essay on why the IoM gives you a boner, without making any spelling or grammar errors, you just straight up die. Tossed into a star, so all the stupid just burns right out of you. The reason for this being if you can't pass 5th grade level spelling and grammar as a Space Marine, you're maybe gonna cause friendly fire or worse as you stumble around the battlefield just shooting at anything. Thats IF the gun gets held the right way. Gotta weed that stuff out early.

Before you call someone else stupid, maybe copy paste your post into a spell checker? My corrections in red.

BluntmanDC wrote:
Grade- F-. See me after class.
Well of course they have a high geneseed stock. They never have any aspirants to put it into. The fact that your chapter would have shoddy marines capable of being killed by 3 normal humans makes the chapter look bad.

Just because nearly all recruitment tests are dangerous, doesn't mean this one fits in to that model. (I assume you didn't mean to end a sentence with a preposition.)

So you kill 1 fully trained marine, with all the time and geneseed needed to make one, so that you can possibly have 3 humans that MAY survive the enhancements and training.

Your chapter deserves to die out, it is a terrible idea. Sorry. You can disagree, but it is terrible.

Dying. I left the rest of your verbal dung heap alone, but seriously? You misspelled dying? We're done here. You failed. Ready the sun cannon!

I hope we all learned something about how to sound like someone who halfway has a grasp of their mother tongue.
Also that being mean on the internet is only acceptable when I do it.

That said, I like the idea, and having seen the models I can say that I like them too. Good work buddy.

BluntmanDC wrote:

Connor McKane wrote:Well look at it this way.

What better way to test a recruit? You think it is easier to kill a Loyalist Space Marine than a CSM? If you have a recruit capable of killing a full battle brother then you know you are getting a recruit as good or better than that Marine. No different than a young lion killing an old lion to lead the pride. It is simply survival of the fittest.

If you read the fluff of Space Marines the recruitment process is deadly for the recruits. So this is no different in that aspect...

Also many times the recruits are pitted against the training cadre in combat, and more than one space marine instructor has been killed ay a recruit. Either in an accident or in a rage.

It would also cull weakness from the Chapter. Any marine falling to 3 "boys" is either past his prime, or his skills are wanting.

You might think it is a "Stupid" recruiting method, but we will agree to disagree... It may not get them alot of recruits, but the ones it does bring are of very high ability/gene-stock.

well of coarse they have a high geneseed stock they never have any asprints to put them into, the fact that your chapter would have shody marines capable of being killed by 3 normal humans makes the chapter look bad.

just because nearly all recruitment tests are dangerous doesn't mean this one fits in

so you kill 1 full trained marine, with all the time and geneseed needed to make one, so you can have 3 possible humans that MAY survive the enhancements and MAY survive the training.

you chapter deserve to die out, it is a terrible idea, sorry you can disagree, but its terrible.

Connor McKane wrote:BTW - The IoM sacrifices thousands of Imperial Citizens daily just to keep the Golden Throne Operational.... If you believe the IoM is "The Good Guys" you need to read some of the older fluff.

who said they were the good guys (and you can actually read alot of modern fluff showing it to be bad), the IoM is the do everything so that humanity survives (not all humans). those psykers that are sacrificed are unable to control their power and present a danger to the rest of humanity and the throne is kept active so that the IoM doesn't collapse leading to human worlds cut off, warp travel a thousand times more difficult and billions of humans dieing.

What’s great about this is, the fact that that is YOUR opinion. And It is wrong (in my opinion). I have made a good, solid argument about the recruitment method...and of why it has Pros, and why it has Cons. You can make all the hippy "fluff" marines you like, that throw daisies at one another as a recruiting method. But Mine will be harshly and continuiously tested and failure means death, there is no room for weakness in the 41st millennium. So Thanks for the input and criticism... but I believe you are done here.

Doomthumbs: seriously?


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Connor McKane wrote:What’s great about this is, the fact that that is YOUR opinion. And It is wrong (in my opinion). I have made a good, solid argument about the recruitment method...and of why it has Pros, and why it has Cons. You can make all the hippy "fluff" marines you like, that throw daisies at one another as a recruiting method. But Mine will be harshly and continuiously tested and failure means death, there is no room for weakness in the 41st millennium. So Thanks for the input and criticism... but I believe you are done here.

How is killing wolves or giant lizards 'hippy'? If a chapter has marines that could be killed by 3 normal humans it hasn't done a very good job training its marines, so either it never gets new recruits or has a whole lot of poorly trained marines.

Is this prior to any of the gene seed and surgeries for the recruits? If so I'd be mighty impressed if 3 ten year old boys could bring down a marine since I think its canon that the surgeries and stuff have to be done before 15 or some such young age. Perhaps the chapter has found a way around that?

Either way, pretty unique recruitment process. Its always good to see different ideas about such things. Painting and conversions are pretty nice. I know I'm echoing everyone else when I say that I like the Sanguinor, but here it is anyway: great job! The Sternguard have a little fuzzy patch of red, not sure if thats a symbol, but if its warpaint running with that would be pretty neat.

BluntmanDC wrote: Doomthumbs: seriously?


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Connor McKane wrote:What’s great about this is, the fact that that is YOUR opinion. And It is wrong (in my opinion). I have made a good, solid argument about the recruitment method...and of why it has Pros, and why it has Cons. You can make all the hippy "fluff" marines you like, that throw daisies at one another as a recruiting method. But Mine will be harshly and continuiously tested and failure means death, there is no room for weakness in the 41st millennium. So Thanks for the input and criticism... but I believe you are done here.

How is killing wolves or giant lizards 'hippy'? If a chapter has marines that could be killed by 3 normal humans it hasn't done a very good job training its marines, so either it never gets new recruits or has a whole lot of poorly trained marines.

See... you have to take one stance, or another. Your first argument is that it was wasteful to throw away marines. Now they are poorly trained? Pick an side and stick with it.

Besides these are children from a feudal world. Trained to hunt and kill by the time they can stand, the dont get their food from the Administratum. They are hardened and tough, and good with a knife or a bow. Three of them stand a chance to kill a marine, especially an unarmed one. So the marine also has a chance to kill them as well. It is a fairly matched engagement, if you think about it.

But youre not, thinking about it that is. Youre not interested in a discussion, all you are doing now is arguing for the sake of arguing, hoping that someone ANYONE will take you side, and give you the validation you desire. You are just gonna argue till I agree with you, so I think it is best you move on... thanks for your input, but your comments aren't really welcome anymore, as it is not longer advancing the thread.

Connor McKane wrote:

See... you have to take one stance, or another. Your first argument is that it was wasteful to throw away marines. Now they are poorly trained? Pick an side and stick with it.

Besides these are children from a feudal world. Trained to hunt and kill by the time they can stand, the dont get their food from the Administratum. They are hardened and tough, and good with a knife or a bow. Three of them stand a chance to kill a marine, especially an unarmed one. So the marine also has a chance to kill them as well. It is a fairly matched engagement, if you think about it.

But youre not, thinking about it that is. Youre not interested in a discussion, all you are doing now is arguing for the sake of arguing, hoping that someone ANYONE will take you side, and give you the validation you desire. You are just gonna argue till I agree with you, so I think it is best you move on... thanks for your input, but your comments aren't really welcome anymore, as it is not longer advancing the thread.

I don't think he really switched sides at all friend....he remains on the same side as always, and he does have a point.

It seems your aspirants take this blooding before they are given the genetic treatment to turn them into Astartes...so it's three children, however well developed by the time they would be undergoing these trials (Age 10-15), against what is supposed to be the pinnacle, the elite. Three feudal children would be hard pressed against an experienced Catachan, and would fall before a Kaskrin, so why are they ever able to beat an Astartes? He's not going to go easy on them at all, and is going to do his best to eliminate them, as you've said, there is no room for weakness.

Bluntmans stance is that the Blooding as an unnecessary waste of battle brothers that isn't found amoung loyalist chapters, and if the aspirants are coming out on top, the Astartes, as you've said in your fluff, was poorly trained and unworthy of the title. It takes but a single aspirant to seek glory, fall, and the Space Marine is armed, but even before that.... Top genetic stock, at age 10-15, humans aren't going to break 6 foot. Space Marines are over 9 feet tall, and half as wide. A single blow with a fist would be like a sledgehammer, and you would like your fluff to have it state that aspirants used to defeat marines without being armed?

You seem to be underestimating the gulf between the normal human and the Space Marine quite substantially. Placing un-enhanced children with minimal (At least in ways of combat that would help them against a Space Marine, as well as compared to the Space Marine) combat training against an Astartes of any chapter....the Astartes should triumph every time with a scratch or two at best, and the childrens blood will be mixing with the dirt on the ground.

(Using scenes from Space Wolf (Death World), as well as Sons of Dorn (Feudal World), as well as logic to gauge the gap between Astartes and un-modified aspirant.)