Jerusalem (CNN) -- A letter from about 30 prominent rabbis' wives was causing a stir in Israel Wednesday because it urges Israeli girls not to date Arabs.

The open letter comes three weeks after the uproar caused by another letter, which was written by 50 state-appointed rabbis and told Jews not to rent or sell property to non-Jews.

The latest missive, which was published by some websites and news outlets, says Arab men act polite around Jewish girls and "act as if they really care about you," but it says that's a ruse. The men, it says, even change their Arab names to Hebrew forms like Yossi and Ami in order to get close to the girls.

"This behavior is temporary," the letter says. "As soon as you are in their hands, in their villages under their control, everything becomes different. You can ask dozens of girls who have been there. They will tell you it is all an act.

"As soon as you arrive at the village, your life will never be the same. The attention will be replaced with curses, beatings, and humiliations. Even if you want to leave the village it will be much harder. They won't let you, they will chase you, they won't let you come back."

It urges Jewish girls not to go out with non-Jews or work in places that employ non-Jews.

"Your grandmothers never dreamt that their descendants would do something that will take the next generations of her family out of the Jewish people," it says.

The letter was initiated by the head of Lehava, an extreme right-wing group that says it aims to prevent the "assimilation of the Jewish people" and works at "saving Jewish girls from Arab villages."

"It's known that girls who go out with Arabs are beaten, these girls are in danger. ... There is a violent social trend and everyone ignores it," said the head of the group, Anat Gopstein, in a radio interview Wednesday morning.

The head of Israel's Reform movement, Rabbi Gilad Kariv, harshly condemned the letter and said, "Israeli society is falling into a deep, dark pit of racism and xenophobia," according to spokeswoman Yuli Goren.

More than 30 female rabbis from the Reform movement published a counter-letter harshly condemning the one released Wednesday, Goren said. Kariv also called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Yaacov Neeman to speak out against it.

Among the rabbis' wives who signed the letter is Nitzchia Yossef, the daughter-in-law of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the spiritual leader of the ultra-orthodox Shas political party. Esther Lior, the wife of extreme right-wing Rabbi Dov Lior, was another signatory.

Rabbi Yosef was one of the authors of the letter written earlier this month that urged Jews not to sell or rent property to non-Jews. It prompted widespread condemnation from politicians, human rights groups and leading rabbis in both Israel and the United States.

The letter, which was distributed to synagogues and published in some religious newspapers, had warned that those who defied the religious ruling should be ostracized. It said if one apartment is taken by a non-Jew, it devalues all the neighbors' apartments.

More than 800 rabbis from around the world signed a petition against the letter, saying "statements like these do great damage to our efforts to encourage people to love and support Israel."

The petition said "the attempt to root discriminatory policies based on religion or ethnicity in Torah is a painful distortion of our tradition. Am Yisrael (the Jewish people) knows the sting of discrimination, and we still bear the scars of hatred. When those who represent the official rabbinic leadership of the state of Israel express such positions, we are distressed by this ... desecration of God's name."

Nearly 1.5 million Arab residents live inside Israel, making up 23% of the population.

A poll published Tuesday by the Hebrew University in Jerusalem showed that 48% of Israelis oppose the call to avoid renting or selling property to Arabs.

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us.

I forgot that the Jews in pre-Holocaust Germany were constantly calling for Germany's destruction and they had had to build a wall around Berlin to keep Judaic Fundamentalist suicide bombers away from the German civilians.

It's exactly the same thing, you're right.

corpsesarefun wrote:I agree with Peter here, this is rather similar to a certain set of Nazi laws.

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us.

I forgot that the Jews in pre-Holocaust Germany were constantly calling for Germany's destruction and they had had to build a wall around Berlin to keep Judaic Fundamentalist suicide bombers away from the German civilians. These 30 Rabbis' wives opinions are somehow Israeli policy, too? This thread is bad... you know the rest.

It's exactly the same thing, you're right.

Kanluwen wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:I agree with Peter here, this is rather similar to a certain set of Nazi laws.

Lolwat?
No it's not. They're not pulling people aside checking their noses, ears, eyes, or skulls to see if you're "pure Jew".

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us.

I forgot that the Jews in pre-Holocaust Germany were constantly calling for Germany's destruction and they had had to build a wall around Berlin to keep Judaic Fundamentalist suicide bombers away from the German civilians. These 30 Rabbis' wives opinions are somehow Israeli policy, too? This thread is bad... you know the rest.

It's exactly the same thing, you're right.

Dude...c'mon. You know that the Nazi regime started out with "racial purity" and "Aryan business" stuff. Krystal Nacht anyone? I see similarities...so I say it.

I love potato pancakes too, and jewish girls are hot. I just think that racism is racism regardless of the races involved. HATERS GONNA HATE!!!!
Only in the middle east, the haters blow you up.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:I agree with Peter here, this is rather similar to a certain set of Nazi laws.

Lolwat?
No it's not. They're not pulling people aside checking their noses, ears, eyes, or skulls to see if you're "pure Jew".

I didn't say they were, I said it is similar to a set of laws. If you want specifics section one of The Laws for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour in respect to the marriages and another law when it comes to employment.

Kanluwen wrote:

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us.

I forgot that the Jews in pre-Holocaust Germany were constantly calling for Germany's destruction and they had had to build a wall around Berlin to keep Judaic Fundamentalist suicide bombers away from the German civilians. These 30 Rabbis' wives opinions are somehow Israeli policy, too? This thread is bad... you know the rest.

It's exactly the same thing, you're right.

Dude...c'mon. You know that the Nazi regime started out with "racial purity" and "Aryan business" stuff. Krystal Nacht anyone? I see similarities...so I say it.

No, you don't. There are no similarities in this case. This isn't the bloody government making this call. It's a group of 30 Rabbis.

Are they state-appointed? Yes. But that doesn't mean that they won't be sacked for this, nor that it's a publicly accepted opinion.

I love potato pancakes too, and jewish girls are hot. I just think that racism is racism regardless of the races involved. HATERS GONNA HATE!!!!
Only in the middle east, the haters blow you up.

Only in the West do people make ridiculous comments like this and actually think they're being clever. Go back to 4chan.

Jordanian Penal Code wrote: "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty."

Kanluwen wrote:
And you also have to go into the fact that these are not actually laws. Read the bloody statement before commenting next time.

This is more akin to the KKK publishing a letter saying "Blacks can't own property or marry white women!" in this day and age than it is the "Nazi regime".

These are not actually, on the book and enforced laws. These are things written and published by 30 Rabbis, claiming that "anyone who violates it will be ostracized by the community".

Do you see the difference now?

Kanluwen wrote:

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Saints preserve us.

I forgot that the Jews in pre-Holocaust Germany were constantly calling for Germany's destruction and they had had to build a wall around Berlin to keep Judaic Fundamentalist suicide bombers away from the German civilians. These 30 Rabbis' wives opinions are somehow Israeli policy, too? This thread is bad... you know the rest.

It's exactly the same thing, you're right.

Dude...c'mon. You know that the Nazi regime started out with "racial purity" and "Aryan business" stuff. Krystal Nacht anyone? I see similarities...so I say it.

No, you don't. There are no similarities in this case. This isn't the bloody government making this call. It's a group of 30 Rabbis.

Are they state-appointed? Yes. But that doesn't mean that they won't be sacked for this, nor that it's a publicly accepted opinion.

I love potato pancakes too, and jewish girls are hot. I just think that racism is racism regardless of the races involved. HATERS GONNA HATE!!!!
Only in the middle east, the haters blow you up.

Only in the West do people make ridiculous comments like this and actually think they're being clever. Go back to 4chan.


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corpsesarefun wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:I agree with Peter here, this is rather similar to a certain set of Nazi laws.

Lolwat?
No it's not. They're not pulling people aside checking their noses, ears, eyes, or skulls to see if you're "pure Jew".

I didn't say they were, I said it is similar to a set of laws. If you want specifics section one of The Laws for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour in respect to the marriages and another law when it comes to employment.

And you also have to go into the fact that these are not actually laws. Read the bloody statement before commenting next time.

This is more akin to the KKK publishing a letter saying "Blacks can't own property or marry white women!" in this day and age than it is the "Nazi regime".

These are not actually, on the book and enforced laws. These are things written and published by 30 Rabbis, claiming that "anyone who violates it will be ostracized by the community".

Do you see the difference now?

Gibbsey wrote:I agree with this completely, i mean look at the radical right in america and tell me you dont see some crazy's

Monster Rain wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:I agree with this completely, i mean look at the radical right in america and tell me you dont see some crazy's

Or the Radical Left.

There aren't many decent people that are "radical" anything.

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
And you also have to go into the fact that these are not actually laws. Read the bloody statement before commenting next time.

This is more akin to the KKK publishing a letter saying "Blacks can't own property or marry white women!" in this day and age than it is the "Nazi regime".

These are not actually, on the book and enforced laws. These are things written and published by 30 Rabbis, claiming that "anyone who violates it will be ostracized by the community".

Do you see the difference now?

Anyone that actually READS the article knows this. Its the fact that there are so many folks in Israel that SUPPORT THIS SENTIMENT that scares me. You have public sentiment, then it is reflected in the laws that go on the books.

Do you see the similarity now?

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Does that make it any less disgusting to you?

Monster Rain wrote:

Jordanian Penal Code wrote: "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty."

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Does that make it any less disgusting to you?

Monster Rain wrote:

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Does that make it any less disgusting to you?

Monster Rain wrote:

Jordanian Penal Code wrote: "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty."

If you lived in a country adjacent to this you wouldn't be concerned for your daughters dating and marrying people that would take them there?

Peter Wiggin wrote:Thats identical to saying "If you bring home a [see forum posting rules] you are getting disowned".

Kanluwen wrote:This is not the same as Germany when the Nazi Party took over in any way, shape, or form. The German people were not having their children growing up in a society where their children are considered targets by "freedom fighters", like the Israelis are. The German people did not have to worry about the Jews walking into crowded public areas and detonating themselves, or launching rockets into those public areas.

Germany, for the most part, during the Nazi Party was a disgusting and despicable place that was warped by its leadership and willing to look away at the corruption festering the country and the atrocities committed due to the prosperity brought about by the Nazis.

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Does that make it any less disgusting to you?

Monster Rain wrote:

Jordanian Penal Code wrote: "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty."

If you lived in a country adjacent to this you wouldn't be concerned for your daughters dating and marrying people that would take them there?

I would never in a million frigging years tell my daughter who she could or could not fall in love with, and frankly I find the fact that it seems to be "common sense" to be utterly revolting.

Thats identical to saying "If you bring home a () you are getting disowned".

Some Muslim men treat women like crap, some don't. Same as ANY other religion.

Kanluwen wrote:

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Here you've just got public sentiment, which can change at any given time.

Does that make it any less disgusting to you?

What the feth does it matter what I think, personally, of it?
The fact remains:

This is not the same as Germany when the Nazi Party took over in any way, shape, or form. The German people were not having their children growing up in a society where their children are considered targets by "freedom fighters", like the Israelis are. The German people did not have to worry about the Jews walking into crowded public areas and detonating themselves, or launching rockets into those public areas.

Germany, for the most part, during the Nazi Party was a disgusting and despicable place that was warped by its leadership and willing to look away at the corruption festering the country and the atrocities committed due to the prosperity brought about by the Nazis.

Gibbsey wrote:

I beleive the point he was making was that if they do go to one of these countries then they have very limited rights and can be killed legaly

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:

I beleive the point he was making was that if they do go to one of these countries then they have very limited rights and can be killed legaly

So how does that tie in with the call to refuse to rent or work with Arab's?

Peter Wiggin wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:

I beleive the point he was making was that if they do go to one of these countries then they have very limited rights and can be killed legaly

So how does that tie in with the call to refuse to rent or work with Arab's?