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@Theo, Well actually I don't have any orcs kobolds or goblins from bones2. Part of what talked me into backing bones 3 was the generic monsters that are useful to have. I do have a load of orcs I got in trade for some surplus marine stuff, Kings of War orcs I mean.

Got some unpainted skaven, and loads of snotlings. Been painting the snotlings as smurfs with little greenstuff hats. May even add the KoW orclings as more snotling/smurfs.

I need to get the airbrush set back up so I can spray-prime bones minis as that first coat by hand..sucks.


Something like this tends to run 60-100 dollars, but the hoses on them are only a couple of feet.

I wonder if I could rig up something similar.. I've got some small fans that are similar in size to what this must use (air hockey table, old computer, etc) but I need something that can be used downstairs. I wonder if I could have the fan suck the spray mist into a large (18x18x18 or even 24x or some similarly large dimension..) box that was designed kind of like a car muffler... or like something with baffles. Like a couple of sheets of thin cloth or whatever, and some cardboard baffles, basically suck in the paint and have it hit some screens and materials that will let the air pass through but that will hopefully catch the paint particles? Has anyone else looked into such a thing? I need something that can run independent of a window. I'm pretty sure the air coming out of the compressor isn't going to hurt anyone to breathe, especially after it's diffused into the surrounding air, but I need something to reliably catch the paint particles in terms of preventing overspray staining the walls/ceiling and breathing concerns.

Doable, or should I consider setting up the airbrush in a different room with closer window access and just use something like the picture (even if it's home-made)?

Smurf orclings...... ingenious

Is the blue wizard Gargamel's cousin?

My airbrush is still sitting unused, wish I could give you advice on it.

Well I have blue snotlings, have for ages. Using them as goblins but I'm not sure about throwing them at D&D parties... well actually.. yes I am. It would be hilarious

I actually have a Giant that's slotted to become Gargamel someday... one of the two that came in that old dogs of war/regiments of renown 2 giants 1 druid box set. Just never did get along to making the robe. I may actually try it sometime with that plaster cloth stuff, may be easier than using greenstuff on such a large scale.

Not a lot of great photos of them here on Dakka but here are a couple:


The whole lot, I think, though I have many orclings now (they're smaller but so what!), and consider how nicely they'll fill out after you spread them out KoW multibase style...


Best closeup of them I could find. Note the floppy hats and candy cane spears

one day we should have a servoskull versus snuff battle I'm sure mantic would put that up on their site for how "Fun" and "creative" their system is compared to others.

Bwahaha. If you can get your servoskulls into regiment bases, I think we have a game

Ha! I love the smurf hanging in front of the wolf like a carrot on a stick!

Noticed that did you? I was funny back in the day, I swear! I had one planned out to have a big present with a large ribbon/bow in his hands, as a goblin fighter character meant to represent Jokey smurf. There was a one use item back in.. maybe it was 6th edition... that goblins could take that gave you +3 strength for one turn. Figured it represented the present pretty well

Anyway, got the cargo container and gorillas sealed so here you go:



Gonna get better photos before I give the gorillas away, though we're trying to get a game in this week so I'll have to do it soon.

Shipping container works, I think I like the blue one a little better and I'm really not happy with the shoddy rushed stencil work... but live and learn. If it grates too hard I'll fix it later, but I doubt it.

Got a few things partially finished that I may push to get done, or I may start on those Nomads. As soon as I'm in a cleaning/building mood I'm gonna put my shasvastii together.

Once I get my office and game room sorted out and get a more accurate portrait of what's going on with shelf space.. I may just make a push to assemble all of my Infinity models so they can stare down at me and judge me 'till I finish them..

Gonna go now, baby baby may be sleeping soon and one of us will have to go to bed as early as possible for the inevitable feeding/holding shift change

Feeling pretty good about the week/end though, I got that Zero done, three gift gorillas, a shipping container out of the way, and a wizard who just needs to be sealed and based.

With he 3-d dungeons, there's some solid inspiration for you here:

https://daggerandbrush.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/crypt-of-the-damned-a-soul-shattering-tutorial-part-i/

https://daggerandbrush.wordpress.com/category/terrain/dungeon-crawl/

The army of smurflings looks hilarious!

the orclings in full plate with a sword could be hefty smurf.

So much possibility with the smurfs and orclings.

Yeah, I've got some characters along those lines. I may get a proper goblin to paint as the papa smurf warlord.

Need to round up my orclings and look into making some kow units.

Well if you need more let me know

You've got orclings laying about? Hmm perhaps we can come to an arrangement ... Need to round up my lot and see what I'm working with.

The smurfs are so great! They'll get your numbers where you need to be for sure!

I like the gorillas too. The shot of them in front of the cargo container is a good one!

I bought hundreds of orcs for KOW, each sprue had at least one or king on it. So I've got plenty enough for a smurf village.

They may have to face my terra cotta warriors though as that way we could keep it all fantasy. My guys will be just slightly taller than yours.

The terracottas are that short? The orclings are tiny compared to goblins even.

I have to check, but it will probably look like snotlings fighting goblins.

I can handle that.. so we're playing 15mm orcs vs giant Japanese statues

I really should download my digital KoW book and see how it turned out. I'm not sure I even know when it's coming in the mail.. just got the books and Blaine+gubbins in the $50 set. I think I added some Naiads in the end but they are liable to be in a second wave.

Yeah I only went for the $50 set as well. Planned on possibly adding the Abyssals later when the reopened it, only to be disappointed when they said they are not reopening the PM .

I really like the look of the layout, and there's been a bunch of people happy with it so far, but my kids broke our iPad and it's so hard to read on my phone and I really dislike our other tablet.

Ahh, I'll have to use my desktop or phone. Or just wait a few weeks

You won't get to hand pick, but whenever everything is sorted for retail, the meta army set will probably be almost as cheap as KS prices. Especially during black Friday and other sales.

About the extractor: Get yourself a 20 inch box fan and a pack of those 20"x20"x1 HEPA filters used for Furnaces, these things http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rheem-20-in-x-20-in-x-1-in-Basic-Household-Pleated-FPR-4-Air-Filter-3-Pack-64300-012020/203140809 Turn the fan on high and place the filter against the intake side. You spray from the intake side. It does work very well indeed. It is what I use. You may want to give it some sides or cut the bottom out of a large cardboard box to create sides and a top, but I never found that necessary. Just don't spray anything but acrylics at it. The filter seems to catch everything. I've never noticed any paint making it through to the fan itself.

Thanks I put a post for this in the painting and modeling thread and someone just suggested the very same thing and it sounds like a winner. Plus side, I already have a box fan (that I won't need here with the central air) so I just need to get the larger filter size to fit it.

It will be nice to have the airbrush setup working again, I think my compressor can go in the leg-space under the mega-desk and I can thread the hose up so as to store the guns at the back of the desk. Might have to reconsider the placement of some things to make the fan work out... but should be pretty easy.

I foresee getting some more bones painted once I get my airbrush running again.

Hmm...

So should I keep investing time and creative energy towards proper 3d dungeon terrain/scenery... or should I just lay off and wait for Dungeon Saga to come with it's double order of tiles. Probably more than enough tiles to cover any regular RPG sessions.

I mean, I'm probably not gonna *use* the scenery I make, or even if I do it would probably be less functional than straight tiles with doors/furniture in 3d... but it does still sound fun. I dunno. In a weird mood today I guess.. got me thinking.

Heck for all I know it would be more fun to play dungeon saga on my fancy 3d terrain anyway.

Gonna keep shuffling things from the garage to the office, maybe paint something.

I'm waiting on Dungeon Saga as well. But with Zombicide I might have my copy sitting on the shelf for a while. 3D terrain is always great, so go ahead and work on yours I'd say, especially if the painting but isn't getting you. If you have any interest in painting though, you'd better stoke that flame before it completely dies out.

Yeah. I hear you. I tend to paint when I'm even remotely in the mood for it and let myself quit instantly if I feel like I'm getting burnt out. Some scheme are a lot riskier for that. Like my PanO, there's a reason I only have one fusilier done.

I've got the things for my airbrushing trial down here. I just need to dig out the quick connected hose... which means it could be weeks off till I get to start =/ Between that and my hot glue guns (plural, I have 3 and I can only find the micro-tipped gun...), starting to get exasperated.

I think I'm also going to soft-copy my 'modular' gaming table to get my daughter some play tables for all of her little people and imaginex and pseudobarbies.. .and don't forget the horde of paw patrols, oh no! But I'm gonna get a 4x8 sheet of MDF and have them cut it thrice into 2x4' sections like my gaming table. I still need to source something to put it on.. thinking 24" will be about right for my daughter's 37 or so inches of height. Big milk crates would be nice. Trying to source something that is sturdy yet still cheap. I don't want the tables falling over on her if she leans which means I'll need probably 8 support pieces. I know saw horses are things but I dont like pinch points around the kid. I figure this well let me arrange them into a corner section or a 6x6' table with a 2x2' void in the middle that she can occupy like some of the larger model train layouts.

I think given that you have gone through two of the more stressful (albeit ultimately rewarding) life events in a matter of weeks it is understandable that your painting mojo is a bit low.

Maybe something big, but easy, would be the route to take? A Mars Attacks big stompy robot maybe?

And given the thread title I was expecting Tables and Laddets and Chairs, oh my!

If your looking for a good base for under the table go to Target or Walmart and get the cube organizers. They come in different shapes and for her size you could get a couple 2x3 cubes and put them underneath, keep your eyes open for a sale on them and save some cash. They go together quick, are coated MDF, and they sell fabric cubes that fit inside of them so she can organize her things under the table. It's also easy for her to pull a cube out and bring it with her for trips to grandmas.

http://m.target.com/p/room-essentials-6-cube-organizer-espresso/-/A-15187076
That's just a quick search, Walmart, lowes, and Home Depot carry similar things and I you keep looking you'll hit a sale, especially with the back to school/college stuff going on.

They can be laid on their side and stacked up too as they have dowel rod spaces in them, which you could use to mount the top to them.

Hmm sounds like a possibility, a good idea of stuff to look out for. Thanks

Put in a little progress on the Custodier and Sin Eater. I have another Sin Eater but I think I'm too far along on these two to clean/assemble/prime him and then catch up painting too. I'll just knock out these two and move on. Their scheme is about the same as the rest of my Nomads, but with pseudo-dracula capes(black outside, orange inside, almost dracula) like the Moira but without her black clothes, I figured I'd leave that a Moira only thing.

I think this will run me out of primed or assembled Infinity stuff.

I still have a bucketful of them to work through... fancy a list o' shame?

Nomads:[12] (possible I forgot somebody but I don't *think* so)
Bran do castro
2 Tsyklon Sputniks
sniper sin eater
spitfire riot girl
icestorm--
3 aglauciles
mobile brigada
reverened healer/killer
spektr
grenzer

PanO[17]
As an aside, some of those PanO's are primed and many of them are part-assembled ready to be primed... but the scheme I chose is tedious at best /sadface.

Icestorm minus a fusilier
2 fusiliers
orc troop
nisse with sniper rifle
akalis
father knight
CSU

4 bolts(cooler weapons)
neoterra starter--
3 bolts
aquila guard
swiss guard
hexas with spitfire

QK(also technically haqqislam)[11]
3 ghulams
4 kaplan tactical services
4 sekban (naval something or another)
(these guys can borrow the aglaciles and brigada too)

Shasvastii(also CA)[7]
2 cadmus
malignos with combi rifle
agent cadmus naish sheskiin
ikadron batroid
imetron (technically CA vanilla only)
noctifier with spitfire

Holy freaking crap. 47 Infinity models to paint? Where the helldamnfart did those all come from!?

I mean...crap.

And that wasn't accounting for the two I've got on my painting tray right now, and the one I finished last week...

I do have let's see.. 1 panO, 9 shasvasti, 9 nomads(13 with koalas, which I guess should count) are done so that's...23 done out of.. nearly 70 total.

When did this happen? I mean. These things cost almost 10 dollars a piece, when did I get them all? I mean I know the first wave of shasvastii were post gencon madness. And icestorm was also part of that... that's only a portion though.

Sheesh.

I had uhh... I had better not tally up the models I have for other things. I'll lose it.

They do tend to creep up on you and I am sure they breed in dark corners. Stay strong though and beat them back under control with a paint brush.

The problem I run into is that the brushes tend to book and split. My series 7's didn't hook but both spilt after less than a year and no amount of old fashioned brush soap or 'so angry at paint that it'll eat the stuff right off the handles of your brush' Windsor and Newton cleaner has had any luck fixing them.

So now I'm back to cheapo brushes that fail in a few days /sigh.

I can get all of the Infinity done, and I expect to sooner or later.

You need to upgrade to a Spreadsheet o' Shame, good sir. You won't "lose it". It is sobering and therapeutic and beneficial. Mine tells me that I have acquired too many minis for Infinity and D&D without paint. So now I am motivated to paint, and not buy.

Icestorm/GenCon deal and Yojimbo really jacked up the Infinity total for me.