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this is just a draft of the rules for a stormbird. I've made it so it can be used in either a chaos or Imperium army.

Stormbird 850pts

Front Side Rear BS
12 12 10 4

Unit Type:Super Heavy Flyer
Structure Points: 5
Transport: 100 (even jump infantry and terminators count as 1 model) Rhino-based vehicles count as 15 models, Land Raiders count as 25, Bikes count as 2, Attack Bikes count as 3, Baneblades and other similar size tanks count as 50.
Weapons: 1 nose-mounted twin-linked autocannon, 1 turret mounted twin-linked autocannon, two twin-linked autocannon sponsons (on wings or turbines), Hellfury Missiles.

Special Rules
Ceramite Armour
Melta Weapons NEVER roll an extra D6 for armour penetration
Large Target
models without AA weapons use normal BS instead of hitting on 6’s
Armoured Behemoth
Grants a 5+ invunerable save
Venerated Relic (Imperium Only)
If the Stormbird suffers a glancing or penetrating hit, you may ask the opponent to re-roll on the vehicle damage table. You MUST select the second result.
All allied units within 12 inch are stubbon
The Dark Gods Protect! (Chaos Only)
The Stormbirds invunerable save is improved by +1.
All allied units within 12 inch get a 5+ invunerable save.

Options:
MUST choose 1 of the following sides:
Imperium.........15pts
Chaos..............20pts

May replace any twin-linked autocannon with:
A twin-linked heavy bolter........10pts
A twin-linked Lascannon...........35pts

May take 2 pintle-mounted:
Heavy bolters........10pts
Autocannons.........15pts

May take up to 4:
Heavy Bolters.........10pts
Lascannons............35pts
CHAOS ONLY OPTIONS

Daemnotic Possession........10pts

If 2 pintle-mounted Heavy Bolters/Autocannons Haven't been taken, you may take:
2 Pintle-Mounted Reaper Autocannons....25pts


What do you think?
EDIT:Added more options (up to 4 heavy bolters or lascannons) and changed holo-shields to armoured behemoth.
M.K

Imperial should not have holo-shields. Give it some standard imperial void shields instead.

Other than that, it's very tough to rate things like this.
It's very under-gunned for 850 points, but transports an entire company.
It's extremely survivable, but since it's really just their to dump troops onto the table, that's not that big of a deal.

I would suggesting adding more guns, so that it's still a threat once it has unloaded. Maybe 4-8 heavy bolters, and bombs instead of missiles.

-Matt

Ok, i've changed holo-sheilds and added options for up to 4 heavy weapons

Chaos one has a 4+ invun save...Im not complaining but I think the chaos one would be more expensive due to that.


Liking the idea of principle, but surely acouple of template weapons would be more useful? Im sure if they're going to deploy a whole company to the field, they'd use some battle cannons from the Thunder Hawk or along those lines to actually clear space in the enemy lines before landing.

How's this?

Stormbird 850pts

Front Side Rear BS
12 12 10 4

Unit Type:Super Heavy Flyer
Structure Points: 5
Transport: 100 (even jump infantry and terminators count as 1 model) Rhino-based vehicles count as 15 models, Land Raiders count as 25, Bikes count as 2, Attack Bikes count as 3, Baneblades and other similar size tanks count as 50.
Weapons: 1 nose-mounted twin-linked autocannon, 1 turret mounted twin-linked autocannon, two twin-linked autocannon sponsons (on wings or turbines), Hellfury Missiles.

Special Rules
Ceramite Armour
Melta Weapons NEVER roll an extra D6 for armour penetration
Large Target
models without AA weapons use normal BS instead of hitting on 6’s
Armoured Behemoth
Grants a 5+ invunerable save
Venerated Relic (Imperium Only)
If the Stormbird suffers a glancing or penetrating hit, you may ask the opponent to re-roll on the vehicle damage table. You MUST select the second result.
All allied units within 12 inch are stubbon
The Dark Gods Protect! (Chaos Only)
The Stormbirds invunerable save is improved by +1.
All allied units within 12 inch get a 5+ invunerable save.

Options:
MUST choose 1 of the following sides:
Imperium.........15pts
Chaos...............25pts

May replace any twin-linked autocannon with:
A twin-linked heavy bolter........10pts
A twin-linked Lascannon...........35pts

May replace nose-mounted twin-linked autocannon and 20% of transport capacity with:
Battle Cannon………………..……25pts
Exterminator Autocannon…..35pts
Inferno Cannon…………………..35pts
Punisher Gatling Cannon…….40pts
Demolisher Siege Cannon…..40pts

May take 2 pintle-mounted:
Heavy bolters........10pts
Autocannons.........15pts

CHAOS ONLY OPTIONS

Daemnotic Possession........10pts

If 2 pintle-mounted Heavy Bolters/Autocannons Haven't been taken, you may take:
2 Pintle-Mounted Reaper Autocannons....25pts

M.K

Shouldn't the difference for the Chaos "must get" upgrade be a lot higher?

We're not talking about giving Rhinos, or 1W models here a 4+ invul. We're talking about a Super-Heavy flyer.

I think you should redo the transport unit costs. IMO terminators and assault marines should count as 2. They do in almost any other transport with the exception of the Caestus Assault Ram (then again, that vehicle is way overpowered for its price).

Also, what about access points and fire points?

Stormbird 850pts

Front Side Rear BS
12 12 10 4

Unit Type:Super Heavy Flyer
Structure Points: 5
Transport: 100 (even jump infantry and terminators count as 1 model) Rhino-based vehicles count as 15 models, Land Raiders count as 25, Bikes count as 2, Attack Bikes count as 3, Baneblades and other similar size tanks count as 50.
Weapons: 1 nose-mounted twin-linked autocannon, 1 turret mounted twin-linked autocannon, two twin-linked autocannon sponsons (on wings or turbines), Hellfury Missiles.
Access Points: 1 front assault ramp, 1 on each side, one at rear
Fire points: 10 Models can shoot out of each of the sides Access points

Special Rules
Ceramite Armour
Melta Weapons NEVER roll an extra D6 for armour penetration
Large Target
models without AA weapons use normal BS instead of hitting on 6’s
Armoured Behemoth
Grants a 5+ invunerable save
Venerated Relic (Imperium Only)
If the Stormbird suffers a glancing or penetrating hit, you may ask the opponent to re-roll on the vehicle damage table. You MUST select the second result.
All allied units within 12 inch are stubbon
The Dark Gods Protect! (Chaos Only)
The Stormbirds invunerable save is improved by +1.
All allied units within 12 inch get a 5+ invunerable save.

Options:
MUST choose 1 of the following sides:
Imperium.........10pts
Chaos..............30pts

May replace any twin-linked autocannon with:
A twin-linked heavy bolter........10pts
A twin-linked Lascannon...........35pts

May replace nose-mounted twin-linked autocannon and 20% of transport capacity with:
Battle Cannon………………..……25pts
Exterminator Autocannon…..35pts
Inferno Cannon…………………..35pts
Punisher Gatling Cannon…….40pts
Demolisher Siege Cannon…..40pts

May take 2 pintle-mounted:
Heavy bolters........10pts
Autocannons.........15pts

May take up to 4:
Heavy Bolters........10pts
Lascannons...........35pts

CHAOS ONLY OPTIONS

Daemnotic Possession........10pts

If 2 pintle-mounted Heavy Bolters/Autocannons Haven't been taken, you may take:
2 Pintle-Mounted Reaper Autocannons....25pts

Better now?
And if anyone else has any problems with the cost of the chaos upgrade, please say how much it should cost!!!!
M.K