I-Guard in terra

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**Wardragoon**

Is terra held by the standard I quard quota or is it exempt(in otherwords does Terra field regiments?)

**Ribon Fox**

The information center has this to offer;
"Welcome to the Dominion of Holy Terra.

Terra is the capital planet of the Imperium. As such it is where the High Lords of Terra meet to deliberate on the future of the Imperium in the absence of the Emperor. The God Emperor of Mankind resides immobile in the Golden Throne within the Imperial Palace; which sustains his shattered body with the sacrifice of thousands of psykers a day. Terra is also the headquarters for most of the Adeptus Organizations, such as the Adeptus Administratum (the bureaucracy) and the Adeptus Ministorum (a.k.a the Ecclesiarchy; the church of the Emperor).

Segmentum : Solar
Sector/sub sector: Solar/Sol
Star system: Sol
world name: Terra
Tithe grade: Aptus Non
world type: Hive World
Primary/secondary/tertiary export: Administratum Personnel/Ecclesiarchy Personnel/Tourist Souvenirs
star type: G2V
hydrosphere: 0%
atmosphere: nitrogen-oxygen
population: 176.170.005
capital: Imperial Palace

Army of Holy Terra:
(82.758.582 Strong)

Adeptus Custodes:
-10.000 Custodes Total
-Emperor's Personal Guard (300 Custodes)
-Further Organizational Details Classified M31

Legio Ignatum:
-3 Emperor Class Imperator Titans (Crew: 155)
-2 Emperor Class Warmonger Titans (Crew: 125)
-5 Warlord Battle Titans (Crew:32)
-3 Reaver Battle Titans (Crew:25)
-8 Warhound Titans (Crew:12)
-36 Imperial Knights (Crew:1)

60 Armored Divisions (1.003.750 Soldiers per Division)
Each Armored Division Contains:

-1.000 Stormtrooper Regiments
1.000 Stormtroopers per Regiment
100 Chimera Armored Personnel Carriers per Regiment

-5 Armored Regiments (750 Men per Armored Regiment):
200 Leman Russ Tanks per Regiment (20 Demolisher; 40 Exterminator; 140 Standard)
40 Hellhounds per Regiment
2 Superheavy Tanks per Regiment (1 Baneblade; 1 Shadowsword)

Imperial Fleet of Holy Terra:

Battleships:
-10 Emperor Class Battleships (Crew: 500.000)
-10 Victory Class Battleships (Crew: 300.000)
-20 Retribution Class Battleships (Crew: 300.000)
-10 Apocalypse Class Battleships (Crew 300.000)
Cruisers:
-100 Lunar Class Cruisers (Crew: 20.000)
-20 Gothic Class Cruisers (Crew: 25.000)
-10 Mars Class Battlecruisers (Crew: 25.000)
-50 Dominator Class Cruisers (Crew: 25.000)
-20 Armageddon Class Battle Cruisers (Crew: 30.000)
Escort Vessels:
-350 Firestorm Class Frigates (Crew: 800)
-600 Sword Class Frigates (Crew: 800)
-325 Cobra Class Destroyers (Crew: 500)"

**IvanTih**

Ribon Fox wrote:*snip*

Could you source that or you pulled numbers out of you a**.
Ten Terran Praefect regiments took a part in the Third war for the Armageddon.

**FM Ninja 048**

Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

average person needs 2.84130742 litres a day to survive

2.84130742 * 176,170,005 = 500553142.3879371

how could they import that much water every day

(decimals came from converting gallons into litres)

**IvanTih**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

average person needs 2.84130742 litres a day to survive

2.84130742 * 176,170,005 = 500553142.3879371

how could they import that much water every day

(decimals came from converting gallons into litres)

Hives recycle water and food,plus they probably import water.
Also 176 million population figure is completely wrong since a Hive World has the population between 100-500 billion and Terra has even more.

**1hadhq**

Wardragoon wrote:Is terra held by the standard I guard quota or is it exempt (in otherwords does Terra field regiments?)

I-Guard? like I-phone?

Correct answer ( copied from Ribon Fox ) : Tithe grade: Aptus Non

So NO tithe, but as capital of the IoM, Terra got its own "self-defense" Regiments.
Back at the siege of the Imperial palace, Terran regiments fought alongside Astartes.

We have to assume the regiments from Terra may only care for the centre of Mankind and not get much out of the solar system.

**SagesStone**

Don't the Imperial Fists do some recruitment from there? I thought planets that supply to marine chapters were exempt, but that could be wrong.

Also it's Terra it's likely to be exempt from a few laws like that due to its status.

**Wardragoon**

n0t_u wrote:Don't the Imperial Fists do some recruitment from there? I thought planets that supply to marine chapters were exempt, but that could be wrong.

Also it's Terra it's likely to be exempt from a few laws like that due to its status.

Uhm I'm not so certain on the marines part, in the Space wolves omnibus there is a refferance to their being Fenrisian Imperial guard, but thats why i was wondering on the Terra is it would make sense both ways to have I-guard tithes, and for them not to

**BluntmanDC**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

It is well astablished in fluff that the seas of Terra have 'boiled away' and that outside the hive cities Terra is mostly inhospitable. This is a prime example of real world science being trumped by 40K fluff. Then add the fact that water can be recycled and made, i don't see what the problem is.

Wardragoon wrote:
n0t_u wrote:Don't the Imperial Fists do some recruitment from there? I thought planets that supply to marine chapters were exempt, but that could be wrong.

Also it's Terra it's likely to be exempt from a few laws like that due to its status.

Uhm I'm not so certain on the marines part, in the Space wolves omnibus there is a refferance to their being Fenrisian Imperial guard, but thats why i was wondering on the Terra is it would make sense both ways to have I-guard tithes, and for them not to

The Imperial Fists get recruits from multiple worlds including Terra and Necromunda, the Adeptus non tithe grade only counts for Space marine worlds that are the sole/main recruitment world.

I doubt a world like Fenris would have a Guard regiment, not only is the Fang the only actual proper structure on the planet, the fenrisians have no idea that other planets/aliens/humans exist off world and what would be the point, the area around Fenris is one of the most well protected areas of space in the IoM.

**purplefood**

Wardragoon wrote:
n0t_u wrote:Don't the Imperial Fists do some recruitment from there? I thought planets that supply to marine chapters were exempt, but that could be wrong.

Also it's Terra it's likely to be exempt from a few laws like that due to its status.

Uhm I'm not so certain on the marines part, in the Space wolves omnibus there is a refferance to their being Fenrisian Imperial guard, but thats why i was wondering on the Terra is it would make sense both ways to have I-guard tithes, and for them not to

It isn't Fenrisian Imperial Guard they are House Belisarius troops trained by the Wolfblade.

**Harriticus**

That source seems a bit dubious for me. Only 1,000 Leman Russ' are stationed on Terra? The Israeli Army has 3 times that many tanks for their tiny little country.

The Titan Legion also seems a bit underpowered, considering this is Terra.

Also I've heard that much of Terra's defenses are on the Moon. Dunno if any of that was considered here.

**1hadhq**

Harriticus wrote:That source seems a bit dubious for me. Only 1,000 Leman Russ' are stationed on Terra? The Israeli Army has 3 times that many tanks for their tiny little country.

The Titan Legion also seems a bit underpowered, considering this is Terra.

It states 60 divisions a 1.000 russes = 60.000
The Titan Legion is just the detachment AT terra? You know Mars is near.

The source is still missing tough....

**sphynx**

When you consider how heavily the Earth is entrenched amongst orbital defence batteries, i don't really think they expect much to permeate the defenses. It's a big fleet too. Yeah it seems a bit lacking in terms of heavy armour, but that's a hell of a lot of storm troopers!

**Retribution**

1hadhq wrote:
Harriticus wrote:That source seems a bit dubious for me. Only 1,000 Leman Russ' are stationed on Terra? The Israeli Army has 3 times that many tanks for their tiny little country.

The Titan Legion also seems a bit underpowered, considering this is Terra.

It states 60 divisions a 1.000 russes = 60.000
The Titan Legion is just the detachment AT terra? You know Mars is near.

The source is still missing tough....

Aha, nvm, read it wrong the first time

**IvanTih**

From Epic Armageddon,pg.70.Ten Terran Praefects took part on the Armageddon.

FORCE DISPOSITIONS AFTER THE FIRST SEASON OF FIRE

IMPERIAL GUARD
1st Div, ARCADIAN RIFLES ...........................................6 Regiments
ARM. ASH WASTE MILITIA .........................................13 Regiments
ARM. COMMAND GUARD ...........................................5 Companies
ARM HIVE MILITIA ...................................................280 Regiments
ARM. ORK HUNTERS..................................................11 Regiments
ARM. STEEL LEGION..................................................56 Regiments
ARPHISTA PENAL LEGION .......................................1 Demi-Legion
ASGARDIAN RANGERS .................................................2 Regiments
CADIAN SHOCK TROOPS ..........................................19 Regiments
CANAK IV ‘SKULL TAKERS’ ....................................................1 Clan
CATACHAN JUNGLE TROOPS ......................................3 Regiments
CITYFIGHTING PROVISIONAL
COMPANIES......................................................Est. 600 Companies
DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG ............................................5 Regiments
ELYSIAN DROP TROOPS ............................................12 Regiments
JOPALL INDENTURED SQDNS...................................12 Regiments
MINERVAN TANK LEGIONS..............................................3 Legions
MONGLOR OGRYN AUXILIA........................................1 Regiments
MORDIAN IRON GUARD..............................................8 Regiments
8th NECROMUNDAN ‘SPIDERS’ ...................................3 Battalions
NOCTAN STRIKE FORCES............................................5 Regiments
NORDIAN BERZERKERS...............................................4 Regiments
OCANON PHALANX TROOPS ......................................8 Regiments
PYRAN DRAGOONS......................................................8 Regiments
POLAX 41ST ‘SHOCK’....................................................1 Regiment
SAVLAR CHEM-DOGS ...................................................6 Regiments
SAVLAR CHEM-RIDERS.................................................2 Regiments
SEBASTIN DEFENDERS..............................................15 Regiments
SEMTEXIAN BOMBARDIERS...........................................9 Batteries
STORM TROOPERS...................................................18 Companies
TERRAN PRAEFECTS ..................................................10 Regiments
INQUISITORIAL INDUCTED COMPANIES .................3 Companies
VALHALLAN ICE WARRIORS.........................................8 Regiments
ZOUVAN SKIRMISHERS...................................................3 Brigades
VORGARN LIGHT INFANTRY .....................................12 Regiments
XENONIAN FREE COMPANIES ...................................5 Companies

**Melkhiordarkblade**

I'm pretty sure everything within a million km from Terra will be shot to bits before they cause any damage,not to mention the massive sphere of orbital weapons that make up the new Magnetosphere of Terra.

**Melissia**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

average person needs 2.84130742 litres a day to survive

2.84130742 * 176,170,005 = 500553142.3879371

how could they import that much water every day

(decimals came from converting gallons into litres)

They don't have to import that much water every day. They only have to import a fraction of it, because water gets recycled after use with very efficient systems.

**purplefood**

Melissia wrote:
FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

average person needs 2.84130742 litres a day to survive

2.84130742 * 176,170,005 = 500553142.3879371

how could they import that much water every day

(decimals came from converting gallons into litres)

They don't have to import that much water every day. They only have to import a fraction of it, because water gets recycled after use with very efficient systems.

IS it not possible all the water on Terra is in the system?

**Ashryu**

The listing of the Terran Praefects is really interesting.....I wonder if that just means that regiments from Terra are called praefects or if its some kind of special regiment...

**Brother Coa**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Ribon Fox wrote:
hydrosphere: 0%

population: 176,170,005

even for 40k that's impossible,

average person needs 2.84130742 litres a day to survive

2.84130742 * 176,170,005 = 500553142.3879371

how could they import that much water every day

(decimals came from converting gallons into litres)

It's the 41'st millennial - they have their ways. If you look at Terra in Fire Warrior intro you would see that the ENTIRE planet is covered in one big city. Even the Lexicanum state that all oceans of Earth have gone thousands of years ago.

**Ashryu**

I agree with the idea that the population of Terra has got to be waaaaaaaaaaaay more than 176 million......like WAY more.

**FM Ninja 048**

Brother Coa wrote:It's the 41'st millennial - they have their ways. If you look at Terra in Fire Warrior intro you would see that the ENTIRE planet is covered in one big city. Even the Lexicanum state that all oceans of Earth have gone thousands of years ago.

A giant hose from pluto?

**Lonecoon**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:It's the 41'st millennial - they have their ways. If you look at Terra in Fire Warrior intro you would see that the ENTIRE planet is covered in one big city. Even the Lexicanum state that all oceans of Earth have gone thousands of years ago.

A giant hose from pluto?

Probably stored underground in the caverns where they stripped out all of the resources (oil, coal, metal, salt, etc)

**Wardragoon**

I would imagine a combination of excellent recycling and shipping of water from any significantly water based planets

**purplefood**

Wardragoon wrote:I would imagine a combination of excellent recycling and shipping of water from any significantly water based planets

Maybe it's all in the pipes?

**Wardragoon**

purplefood wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:I would imagine a combination of excellent recycling and shipping of water from any significantly water based planets

Maybe it's all in the pipes?

considering the Hives on terra are miles thick(SW omnibus) that actually would make decent sense

**purplefood**

Wardragoon wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:I would imagine a combination of excellent recycling and shipping of water from any significantly water based planets

Maybe it's all in the pipes?

considering the Hives on terra are miles thick(SW omnibus) that actually would make decent sense

Finally... That's about the 3rd time i have mentioned it on either this thread or one similar and you're the first person to actually pay attention to that idea.

**Wardragoon**

I think most people assume hives are only like 20 stories deep, but fluff says otherwise

**purplefood**

Wardragoon wrote:I think most people assume hives are only like 20 stories deep, but fluff says otherwise

Fluff says a lot of things. Mainly it argues with itself and makes people ask questions and doesn't give any aswers... fluff is a

like that.

**Wardragoon**

purplefood wrote:
Wardragoon wrote:I think most people assume hives are only like 20 stories deep, but fluff says otherwise

Fluff says a lot of things. Mainly it argues with itself and makes people ask questions and doesn't give any aswers... fluff is a like that.

but fluff is all true, especially the contradicting stuff XD