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Powerful Irongut



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I have got a couple of Marine Armies, but I got them second hand. Now, I want to do one for myself, and fancy Imperial fists. Is there an existing IF list for Epic? If not, what sort of units should I add to a typical marines list to make the more "fisty"?
   
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What version of Epic? The 'new' Epic or older versions?

I only play 2nd Ed and as far as that is concerned, Imperial Fists are just Space Marines I think - no special treatment.

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Powerful Irongut



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I generally play Armageddon..

I am happy to play then with no "special" rules , units or upgrades, but would like them to be fluffy..So what units/upgrades would make a "standard" marine army more fisty??
   
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Aren't they supposed to be a codex chapter though? IE. not particularly deviant from the 'standard' organisation?

I'm not really familiar with Fists so I couldn't really comment.

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As they're a strict codex chapter I would stick to fielding a Battle Company with support.

Typically this would be...

2 Tactical Detachments - 1 led by a Captain
1 Assault Detachment led by a Chaplain
1 Devastator Detachment led by a Librarian

Transport and dreads to taste (I prefer a T-hawk to carry my Devs/Assault for a combo assault).

The standard battle company of 100 marines is your best start. Then sprinkle in Whirlwinds, Predators and Land Raiders plus 1st and 10th company support to taste (Scouts and Terminators).

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I've you want to go thematic I'd say limit your T'hawks and take vindicators.

Might not be the best army though.

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Powerful Irongut



Bedford UK

I've decided to just go for yellow marines. I'll come up with a name later if someone asks..Thanks anyway.
   
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Actually you can play them just as IF and still get a nice performance out of them!
IF perfected the art of siege warfare pioneered by the Iron Warriors. The IW were founded earlier but the IF gave the concept a more dynamic feel.
In that view Whirlwinds and Vindicators are your friends, as well Thunderfire cannons available as squats on ebay - with a repaint, of course!
When writing your list think "siege, siege, siege"...
What does a force need to break sieges (attack) or establish an unmovable position from whence to await for support (defend)?
Scouts are an essential part of siege of warfare as is artillery of course. A couple of detachments of scouts (with their excellent coverage of terrain and ZOC) and 8 Whirlwinds will give the army an IF feel, as well as Paladin and Warlord titans. Now that's quite a few BL to drop every turn!
Drop the assault marines or keep them as is - a single detachment to quickly plug holes or exploit them. More devastators are key, too, with a nice strong block of tacticals, And don't forget of course about Termies - Titanhammer Termies in particular with CML.
Keep your speed down - one fast detachment per 1000pt may be appropriate - and a single thunderhawk which the IF as an army have, of course, just don't make as much use of. I mean don't field three and call it an IF force!
No drop pods would also be an idea, and maximise your use of dreadnoughts as well - a lot of players don't like them because they slow troops down but that's not really an issue with your force. One mechanized tactical detachment in rhinos is all you can really field anyway to stay with the fluff as in the attack the objective is to break the enemy line and then exploit the gap rapidly. In the defence it's sit and pound the enemy silly.
Think pounding, siege, and as the scenario requires you're designing either the unmovable object or the unstoppable force of from the old adage. IF are a great army....the Emperor's own banana warriors - and they almost pit the Imperium into a second civil war just as the Heresy came to an end!

Hope some of this helps, anyway
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http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=19434

Imperial Fist list, How IF would fight in a Siege setting. A variant Space Marine list for E:A developed under the Epic Rules Committee (The Official people before GW pulled there Officialness)

   
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Powerful Irongut



Bedford UK

Thanks. I was kind of going in the direction of the list. Pretty much Vindicators/Devestator squads/Whirlwinds/Tac marines/Dreadnoughts/Terminators.....but some nice additions-thanks again!!
   
 
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