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is anyone else besides eldar able to wield eldar/dark eldar technology

for eg: a chaos marine squad hijacks a fire prism, can this work?

It would appear the most Eldar hand-held weaponry is intergrated into the armour.
I would also assume that many weapons systems are psychicly linked with the user, such as the reaper mind-link allowing him to 'see' from his weapons muzzle.

I'd also say that to get into the cockpit of a grav tank, without breaking something vital to its operation would be an incredible task considering the bulk of a CSM and all those spikes/horns that are involved. That is if the CSM would be able to control the grav tank, which may have genetic screening or psy-links required to operate it.

However, i wouldn't put it past some to be able to control such things with the right additions to the systems or simply stealing some of the parts and making a more user-friendly version.

Most defiantly, not sure about vehicles (controls may only work for Eldar genes or something, but Inquisitor Ravenor uses wraithbone pendants to possess his henchman, so yes one would presume that humans could use a lot of Eldar weaponry and what not.

=I= White-Wolf wrote:Most defiantly, not sure about vehicles (controls may only work for Eldar genes or something, but Inquisitor Ravenor uses wraithbone pendants to possess his henchman, so yes one would presume that humans could use a lot of Eldar weaponry and what not.

Ravenor was an incredibly psychic individual who was known to work with Eldar beforehand. The wraithbone pendants were simply a means of amplifying his abilities, most importantly, extending the range of those abilities so he could co-ordinate surface operations from orbit and detect his opperatives in a literal mass of bodies.

I think it would be quite different trying to use actual Eldar technology rather than a simple slice of wraithbone.

While i agree that highly intelligent individuals or someone who posses certain abilites could use Eldar tech (people like Ravenor, or a Magos, or a Mek with a hammer) i do not think most people would be able to. If your tech is that advanced i'd put some safeguards into it to avoid it being captured and used against you.

Generally no.

Eldar equipment uses a minor psychic link to it to activate it (by the fluff).
Not saying that ignorant mon'keigh might not accidentally activate it, but random poking of things generally doesn't help much.

The two exceptions in fluff are Ravenor (but he did have some coaching from Eldar, and was known to work with them) and one of the Last Chancers (who was imprisoned for stealing an Eldar Ambassador's ride - which is assumed to be of Eldar make).

I think all eldar tech needs some level of Psychic abilty. And if you're a clever psychic then you can tap into that tech.

Doesn't the codex say that mesh armour is controlled by the wearer? The armour hardens as the wearer reacts to attacks.

Thats why Aspect warriors get a 4+ save and Guardians get a 5+, not because they're less important just that they aren't as disciplined.

I'm not sure you could eintirely depend upon the discipline of the user, since Striking Scorpians, Warp Spiders, and Drak Reapers have 3+ saves but lose their fleet of foot. I would thus guess that there is some physical difference between aspect warrior armor.

But on the topic itself, I think only psykers would be able to manipulate Eldar tech, since Eldar tech are manipulated through psychic means. Which brings up another question, could Dark Eldar use Eldar tech?

It might be possible to use it. Especilly the DE tech because it is less psykicly depended. No one other than the Eldar would be able to Maintain it. Repairs, reloads, charging whatever would be impossible.

So I can see a CSM, Guardsmen, or even an Ork getting in and possibly driving a Fireprism, although the language and control features would be so different and complex they would more likely wreck it and kill themselves then control it but once it runs out of gas I think its dead for good.

Making things worse the only way anyone other than an Eldar is going to get his butt inside an Eldar vehicle is to down it, likely damaging it beyond the ability to fly again. To repair that kind of stuff into working condition would be almost impossible.

Orks can use Elder tech hell orks could loot the golden throne if they got near it.

I can't use some of the technology that my own race has invented.

Oriallis wrote:I'm not sure you could eintirely depend upon the discipline of the user, since Striking Scorpians, Warp Spiders, and Drak Reapers have 3+ saves but lose their fleet of foot. I would thus guess that there is some physical difference between aspect warrior armor.

But on the topic itself, I think only psykers would be able to manipulate Eldar tech, since Eldar tech are manipulated through psychic means. Which brings up another question, could Dark Eldar use Eldar tech?

I think Striking Scorpians, Warp Spiders, and Dark Reapers use different armour, not mesh armour. Fluff wise the Spiders needed different armour to be protected in the warp. The Dark reapers armour has stabilisers in it to fire thier missiles. Not sure what the Scorpians needed different armour for or why the suits give more general protection.

All Aspects use Aspect Armour and never ever used Mesh Armour.

The quote about Aspect Armour in WD127 stated it uses very tough plates over the suit with psychic reactive parts allowing it to soften and move, it also boosts the users strength. The helmet includes sensors and the armour was self contained and protected from radiation, toxins etc. It said it was directly analogous to Power Armour.

At the time, they had 3 x 3+ saves, 2 x 4+ saves and 1 x 5+ saves. To contrast, Space Marine Power Armour was a 4+ save at the time, so it's roughly equivalent (if not intended to be better, as the fluff for both SM Power Armour and Aspect Armour has not changed since)

Mesh Armour was a different kind of fish to Aspect Armour.

A radical Inquistor's adepts used various bits of xenos technology, including a number of Eldar pieces, in the Dark Heresy tie-in novels, though I'm not sure if they used any Eldar weapons, or just bits of the armor they thought looked nice, since they used a stolen Tau gunship/transport, and had a number of Tau pulse rifles at their disposal. So it may or may not be an example of non-Eldar (and non-Ork) using Eldar technology.

There's an Inquisitor character in Inquisitor who uses a Shuriken Catapult, IIRC.

I belive that the basic weapons don't need a psychic link.


A Human could still fire a reaper cannon, he just couldn't use the weapon to it's fullest potential.

Any one can fire a eldar weapon ... if the weapon lets them. The spirit-stone on all eldar weapons link them to a person, it require a powerful psychic ability to override this/.