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Apart from the WWED bracelet probably being the number one best selling item in the 41st millennium (definitely not WWJD). Is the Emperor happy with the IoM right now? Is he pleased with what is being done about the other races and the Imperial citizens? At present he is stuck on his life support throne and cant take the reins of the Imperium, so if he were to come back would he congradulate humanity? Or punish us?

I'd say he would be VERY peeved off. He tried to establish a non-religious state, and now everyone's worshiping him, even his own Space Marines. I don't think he would try to punish us, but he might use it to his advantage, considering how he is.

He's not too happy with the way things are, but he wouldn't punish humanity. he came to save humanity, not ruin it in an sense of the word. So, he'd take the reigns of power again, and probably try to get rid of the High Lords, or anyone who is a bit TOO happy with the way thing are now. He'd then probably spend a bit of time reorganizing the whole Imperium so that it better fits his orginial image of what humanity could be.

I dont think he would take direct power back.

Theres no way IMHO that the establishment would relent power back after having it for so long.

The E would know this and just go back to the way it used to be before the IoM. He would work behind the scenes to guide the Empire in a positive direction as much as possible.

Probably when things look the most Grim and the establishment the weakest he would Re-surface to save us again and take power back without to much of a hassle.

It could be debated that the religious aspect of the imperium us exactly as he wanted it and the reason he got rid of all religion in the great crusade was so he could clear the way for humanity to worship him.

IIRC, most Space Marines do not worship the Emperor as a god, but more as a "father" figure. Now, I do know that some Chapters do view him as a god.

I think he'd be pissed. I don't buy that he was wiping out all other religions to establish his own; why punish the Word Bearers so brutally then? Because 'the time wasn't right?' The crusade was wrapping up at that point, it was as good as it was going to get for worshiping him, and he still cracked down on it. So he'd be mad about that. I think he'd also be really mad at the tech-priests for advancing things diddly-squat technologically since he was around. And he would definitely oust the Council of Terra and reestablish himself, or at least appoint new members under his direct control. He didn't wait over 30k years to establish the Imperium to not rule it when he's around.

So he'd probably set the mechanicum straight and get them producing enough wargear to finish what he started: I bet he'd redo the Great Crusade, the right way this time; leading it himself until it was totally finished, without arrogant demi-god sons to get uppity and ruin things.

He would probably give up, and go become the Emperor of something else. Maybe emperor of the ratlings, or the ogryns. or the rabbits.

And we'd be soooo screwed

Whatever his initial reactions would be I'm pretty sure that the return of The Emperor would mean that the Imperium wins warhammer 40k.

Personally I think he would be mad to. Xenos are still around

I think he would be mad, annoyed and just peeved because the IoM can be viewed as having degenerated from its once all-powerfulness to barely holding up against threats both external and internal. I think the emperor would take control of the Imperium. Then again if he suddenly gets cured, who is going to man the Astronomican, which brings us to another point, before the Emperor was entombed in the throne, there was NO Astronomican, so...

I would say he would be very, very pissed. First, he said to everyone he is not a god. Second, he was probably a scientist to (after all he crated Primarchs and Space Marine armor) and he would be very dissapointed in AM for not inventing new things or better upgrade the available ones. He would be mad at Inquisiton for killing to many innocent people. And in the end he would be pissed at Ecclesiarchy for depleting Humanity armies in wars for retribution, thus taking the IoM in it's present state.

Actually, that might be a nice campaign plot, whether for 40k or for one of the table top rpg

I have to agree with most everyone on this, though I do have to say I don't recall the Emperor being a Xenophobe, so I think he wouldn't be so angst about slaughtering the Tau(for right now) and I could see a temporary truce to deal with the Tyranid threat(and also gain some technology from them).

Well, IIRC, he chose the solution of wiping all xenos traces, since he understood that as long as they would be there, they would prey on IoM, so there would be no peace, and his goal was universal peace

Same reason why he decided to conquer all human planets that were separated, even though they had their own civilization; one unified empire, to avoid humans making war amongst themselves (which we are actually good at)

Conservationist wrote:I think he would be mad, annoyed and just peeved because the IoM can be viewed as having degenerated from its once all-powerfulness to barely holding up against threats both external and internal. I think the emperor would take control of the Imperium. Then again if he suddenly gets cured, who is going to man the Astronomican, which brings us to another point, before the Emperor was entombed in the throne, there was NO Astronomican, so...

Only small part of the Imperium is at war and actual militarization of the Imperium isn't huge,only some sectors are highly militarized.

I think he would be dissapointed but not overly so, If he made a full recovery he could power the astronomicon remotely like he did in the old days, I think he would appreciate that worship of him was what had bound humanity together in faith (religiously or otherwise) for the past 10 millenia, He would approve of the space marine chapters I believe as the astartes are far more flexible now than they were.

He would have little or no trouble in re-aquiring power, The High lords may not like it but what they gonna do? Face down the most powerfull psyker in existance and a legion of custodes plus the Titans of the Legio Ignis that guard the Eternity Gate? He would be unable to keep his rebirth a secret and still control things from behind the scenes due to the imperiums stagnant nature, any unusual changes would bring cries of suspicion and heresy which would mean brining more people in on the secret and so on and so forth.

FourCartridge wrote:I'd say he would be VERY peeved off. He tried to establish a non-religious state, and now everyone's worshiping him, even his own Space Marines. I don't think he would try to punish us, but he might use it to his advantage, considering how he is.

I was under the impression that SM don't worship him, and that they only see him as a great man, not a g-d. In fact it says so in numerous places.

This is why the SM and the other imperial authorities bump heads so many times.


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pdawg517 wrote:IIRC, most Space Marines do not worship the Emperor as a god, but more as a "father" figure. Now, I do know that some Chapters do view him as a god.

What chapters? The only one that ever did was the word bearers (pre-heresy) and when the Emperor rebuked them, they decided to find a entity that was worthy of their praise (chaos). Other than that...


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Question: Do you think that IF the Emperor had died aboard Horus's flagship, that anyone would let the general population know about it? I mean, what if hes been dead for all this time? The imperium would collapse...

...Just a thought.

They probably would release a story about the Emperors soul ascending into the warp to become a god, which is probably what would have happened, but yeah the Emperors death would be covered up by the custodes i reckon

Ugly Green Trog wrote:
He would have little or no trouble in re-aquiring power, The High lords may not like it but what they gonna do? Face down the most powerfull psyker in existance and a legion of custodes plus the Titans of the Legio Ignis that guard the Eternity Gate? He would be unable to keep his rebirth a secret and still control things from behind the scenes due to the imperiums stagnant nature, any unusual changes would bring cries of suspicion and heresy which would mean brining more people in on the secret and so on and so forth.

And why do you think that HLOT wont give their power to the Emperor if he returns?

I believe he would set about purging the corruption from his Imperium. The High Lords would remain in positions of power, though beholden to his will (I don't believe the Emperor could keep to the shadows, it's not his style). There would likely be a new crusade launched to eradicate the threats to the IoM. The Astartes would likely fill the role they once did pre-heresy. With chapters remaining as they are. I don't think he would want to risk another wide spread Astartes revolution by forming legions. With the escalation of dangers to his domain there may even be another mass founding. At the very least there would probably be a mass mobilization of military might from all of the Imperium's worlds for a huge push against the darkness. I also don't believe he would be satisfied with being worshiped, or the widespread use of psykers (even amongst his Astartes).

Plus he would be in every army list despite the outcry of "cheese" and OMG the Emperor broke the game!

Gridge wrote:
Plus he would be in every army list despite the outcry of "cheese" and OMG the Emperor broke the game!

Make him cost more than a titan and only be usable in Apoc.

Brother Coa wrote:

Ugly Green Trog wrote:
He would have little or no trouble in re-aquiring power, The High lords may not like it but what they gonna do? Face down the most powerfull psyker in existance and a legion of custodes plus the Titans of the Legio Ignis that guard the Eternity Gate? He would be unable to keep his rebirth a secret and still control things from behind the scenes due to the imperiums stagnant nature, any unusual changes would bring cries of suspicion and heresy which would mean brining more people in on the secret and so on and so forth.

And why do you think that HLOT wont give their power to the Emperor if he returns?

I dont for the reasons I said above, some other poster said that he thought the establishment wouldnt want to give their power up I agree that they probably would like to keep it, change scares people, and people in power dont like being sidelined its one thing to worship a god that sits there and doesnt say a whole lot but if that god actually turns up and starts giving orders? well I dont think theyd be happy but like i said there would be nothing they could do about it.

Exactly. Think about it, for the past 10 000 years, the High Lords have enjoyed their position of ultra-super-absolute power over the IoM. I am pretty sure that these guys really enjoyed ruling the galaxy (free booze, outrageous amounts of money, Astartes as bodyguards, etc... ). During all this time, they pretended acting in the name of the Emperor whereas they where just pursuing their own personnal interests and letting the IoM decay and degenerate.
But now, Big E suddenly wakes up, kicks their asses off the throne and tells them to piss off. How do you think they are gonna react? They would probably be really annoyed. If it was not for Big E's supreme psychic powers and his custodes bodyguards, they might try something stupid to keep their power.

The Emperor is dead.

UH OH! I just jumped the shark...

Laodamia wrote:Exactly. Think about it, for the past 10 000 years, the High Lords have enjoyed their position of ultra-super-absolute power over the IoM. I am pretty sure that these guys really enjoyed ruling the galaxy (free booze, outrageous amounts of money, Astartes as bodyguards, etc... ). During all this time, they pretended acting in the name of the Emperor whereas they where just pursuing their own personnal interests and letting the IoM decay and degenerate.
But now, Big E suddenly wakes up, kicks their asses off the throne and tells them to piss off. How do you think they are gonna react? They would probably be really annoyed. If it was not for Big E's supreme psychic powers and his custodes bodyguards, they might try something stupid to keep their power.

I'm thinking thats QFT, though I could see the High lords trying something before word got out.

I've always felt that keeping the Emperor alive and forcing him to watch what the IoM became was Chaos's revenge against him, so no, not happy at all.

As for punishing humanity, it wouldn't make much sense. Better to let the High Lords gak themselves and go about fixing things.

Wardragoon wrote:

Laodamia wrote:Exactly. Think about it, for the past 10 000 years, the High Lords have enjoyed their position of ultra-super-absolute power over the IoM. I am pretty sure that these guys really enjoyed ruling the galaxy (free booze, outrageous amounts of money, Astartes as bodyguards, etc... ). During all this time, they pretended acting in the name of the Emperor whereas they where just pursuing their own personnal interests and letting the IoM decay and degenerate.
But now, Big E suddenly wakes up, kicks their asses off the throne and tells them to piss off. How do you think they are gonna react? They would probably be really annoyed. If it was not for Big E's supreme psychic powers and his custodes bodyguards, they might try something stupid to keep their power.

I'm thinking thats QFT, though I could see the High lords trying something before word got out.

Um, guys. They WORSHIP the Emperor. Just like everyone els.

Armadeus wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

Laodamia wrote:Exactly. Think about it, for the past 10 000 years, the High Lords have enjoyed their position of ultra-super-absolute power over the IoM. I am pretty sure that these guys really enjoyed ruling the galaxy (free booze, outrageous amounts of money, Astartes as bodyguards, etc... ). During all this time, they pretended acting in the name of the Emperor whereas they where just pursuing their own personnal interests and letting the IoM decay and degenerate.
But now, Big E suddenly wakes up, kicks their asses off the throne and tells them to piss off. How do you think they are gonna react? They would probably be really annoyed. If it was not for Big E's supreme psychic powers and his custodes bodyguards, they might try something stupid to keep their power.

I'm thinking thats QFT, though I could see the High lords trying something before word got out.

Um, guys. They WORSHIP the Emperor. Just like everyone els.

They are politicians, faith for them is undoubtedly a jacket to be Donned when suitable

Wardragoon wrote:

Armadeus wrote:

Wardragoon wrote:

Laodamia wrote:Exactly. Think about it, for the past 10 000 years, the High Lords have enjoyed their position of ultra-super-absolute power over the IoM. I am pretty sure that these guys really enjoyed ruling the galaxy (free booze, outrageous amounts of money, Astartes as bodyguards, etc... ). During all this time, they pretended acting in the name of the Emperor whereas they where just pursuing their own personnal interests and letting the IoM decay and degenerate.
But now, Big E suddenly wakes up, kicks their asses off the throne and tells them to piss off. How do you think they are gonna react? They would probably be really annoyed. If it was not for Big E's supreme psychic powers and his custodes bodyguards, they might try something stupid to keep their power.

I'm thinking thats QFT, though I could see the High lords trying something before word got out.

Um, guys. They WORSHIP the Emperor. Just like everyone els.

They are politicians, faith for them is undoubtedly a jacket to be Donned when suitable

Still, if they even THOUGHT about betraying the emeror, the entier IoM would rebel against them.