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Hey guys,

I'm searching for the planet where to base my IG company (yeah, not the most important point, I know), and am looking for really civilized planets.

Thing is, I only find either hive worlds, or cardinal worlds. What i'm searching for would be ideally something like Corsucant: nice, impressive city-planet, cool technology

I know it's wh40K, so every planet is quite dark and/or fanatic machinistic world, but still.. do you have in mind a planet that would be quite nice and civilized?

Holy Terra

Terra, many within the region of Ultramar and many worlds that also house Space Marine chapters.

Generally, the Imperium isn't the most civilised of places; particularly not compared to Coruscant.

Here's a Starmap that may help though.

http://www.joachim-adomeit.de/wh40k/spacemap/wh40k_starmap.jpg

Mikalichou wrote:Hey guys,

I'm searching for the planet where to base my IG company (yeah, not the most important point, I know), and am looking for really civilized planets.

Thing is, I only find either hive worlds, or cardinal worlds. What i'm searching for would be ideally something like Corsucant: nice, impressive city-planet, cool technology

I know it's wh40K, so every planet is quite dark and/or fanatic machinistic world, but still.. do you have in mind a planet that would be quite nice and civilized?

Coruscant is a Hive World. You really only ever see the upper spires, while everything else is a teeming, polluted slum full of criminals, mutants, and Xenos most foul.

You're not going to find many really nice worlds, but any fairly affluent Hive World, like sector/sub-sector capitals such as Thracian Primaris or Scintilla, would probably be the best bet you have.

Scintilla seems to be exactly what I was looking for, thanks

I know Coruscant is more or less a hive world, but in wh40k, it seems all hive worlds have only the bottom dark dirty layers, and are topped by... well, dark dirty layers too :p

and thanks for the map, it looks really nice (and I love maps)

Vahallla!

Death wold!

Just make one up. There are a million worlds in the IoM.

Yeah, but making one up brings some problems. I've seen a lot of people using "the 1st company of Mylivingroom" or "The legendaries of Awesomnius"

And I'll feel more concerned if I got an actual planet, with actual background, problems, stuff that I don't control, will give some character to the army

Cadia?

Why base your army off of an established world when you can make up your own and decide the background? Fluff tends to be purely for your own benefit anyhow, unless your making a blog, so its nice to be able to disctate your armies background. It could be as civilised as you want it to be. It could be of course part of Ultramar-the most civilised of all Imperial systems mentioned- or it could be in some far flung quadrant of the galaxy no-one's heard off. Your world/system may have been isolated from the imperium for decades or even centuaries due to warp storms or the like, recieveing limited if any contact with the Admistratum of Terra so it may have developed differently to the rest of the Imperium, with the opressiveness of Imperial rule lifted a tad leading to greater civil rights. If you want to have background niches that are already established why not base the world off of a historical nation instead? Youknow, say your culture has inclings of ancient Rome-no people walking about in togas or all of that, but the political structure etc-, there you have some pre defined points that you could work from. My own force comes from a civilised world that spawned from a satirical essay I wrote discussing WWII. The nations are set up-Allies, Axis, everyone else-, as is the general look of the tech etc, but it takes influences from other sources too, so that it has very little semblance to a German WWII army or such. Just try and not get yourself constrained by GW lore too much- many of the world's mentioned by GW end up being attacked at some point and getting their fluff bulked out etc-, but its your army, its up to you to develope the fluff (and all that ooh killed ooh business).

As far as maps go, I recommend using this one.

http://www.joachim-adomeit.de/wh40k/spacemap/map.html

Why? It's interactive! Each little label has a small tooltip that gives you basic information about the world...if you want to use and official GW world, I'm sure you could find one with this map.

loner wrote:Cadia?

Only if you like nice views of barbed wire and dead bodies.

This map is SO cool Thanks a lot, will be used

And yes, maybe I'll design my own homeworld, even though it set me apart from the background (for example, Armageddon campaign, well.. nothing will happen to me :p). But I can locate it near another more famous world, this way I'm quite tied to it

Probably a well civilized place, for some reasons (already have ideas). Quite varied, like... well, our good old planet Earth :p I've never understood why in Space-op / sci-fi stuff, there are Desert Planets, ocean planets, jungle planets, ice planets... while we can have all of that on one world :p

So this way, the system will have a few planets, all of which have deserts/oceans/jungles/ice, and IG regiments adapted to these places (since I'm using cadians/mordians/valhallans/tallarns, etc.. in my army, here goes the explanation). And the best of these regiments end up in the Main Planet's Capital City Defense, which will be my army

Yes, kinda like it this way

Hey there's a lot of worlds in the Segmentum Solar, the Armageddon campagin could be coming to a world near you any day now.=P

If your going to have a full system of worlds much like earth then that makes sence that they would be civilised (at least for 40k) and probably have agriculture as their main export. Heh, it seems to be a lot more chirpier than my own system-one habitable world, dead world (it was like that when we got there, honest), another dead world with a research base (ok...so that one might have been us), Penal Colony on another and the odd moon base where the locals go for "indoctrination" into the Imperial regime-circa M33, the church hasn't reach the system in force yet, but its taking over via underhand methods, a la civil war. ^^ Just keep building up on the fluff like that and you'll end up with a pretty solid background that you can build up from. By constantly reinterpretting what you've already come up with you may develope other units to add to your army or come upon the idea to add the odd fluffy nick-nack to a model. Heh, and also if your making your own world up with its own history, that also means that you can always make up your own tank variants if your into that king of thing-42nd Patthak Besieger Squadron growing every day now. ^^

Eugh...sorry, I'm a bit of a whore for creating fluff.

I remeber in Frieborn.

Sepulchre 4. It was a shirne world,nice with lots of catheadrals,very civilized.

Eugh...sorry, I'm a bit of a whore for creating fluff.

Ahah, no problem, I like that too what are your tank variants?

i'm used to getting the fluff at planet scale (lot of tabletop), but a whole system... seems crazy

I mean, every unit would be possible, like elephant mounted rough riders, tanks made of wood, troopers with rats heads/tails ("no they're not xenos, we made them ourselves no we're not heretics, we are... imaginative ")

I need to find a bit of "really cool, but still something's wrong" stuff, like one or two units genetically modified, or something. Or maybe they are good guy, but in a reallly gakky situation, like every planet in the system belong to a different faction, like orks/nids/dark eldars, and they are in a perpetual war. Or the for- I mean the Warp is really strong in the system, and they have real trouble getting outside. That would also explain the number of psykers (well, only 10, but I guess they'll have to get renewed quite often ^^)

Yeah, I like the idea of being isolated. Would also mean lots of daemons/chaos stuff to fight with

Heh, well for Russes I've been using Macharius style ones based off the basic hull for Vanquisers (Arnan Russes, nicked that idea^^), my Hydras are based off of the British G4E6, I've got an as yet unamed super heavy artillery piece in the works which is what the Baneblade is to the Russ, sept its more like a Collossus. Uh, there's the Goliath Siege Walker which I count as a Medusa in games (looks a bit like a Gecko from Metal Gear Solid, sept for the huge gun on the side...plus its top hatch cupola looks a bit like a crown...), then there's the good old AT83, in other words Mort's Tank, and At70-Chimera hulled Leman Russ Exterminator. Most of them get away with using the GW rules, though most mount "count as" weapons or the like. ...Yeah...its a big galaxy... Oh and I've also got a Mechanicum Exploratory group in the works too (Inquisitor, Land Raider + Arco Flaggelants and Sisters, plus the Goliath)... err...for fluff's sake...(mostly their going "WTF's with all the tanks?").

Hmn, so you need something quirky to work into your fluff then? My world's got barely any contact with the Imperium, and what contact there is keeps a low profile or only works explicatedly with the planet's rulers-warp travel's perilous in the region sept for a narrow passage. Its in a state of civil war at the moment, secretly sparked by the Imperium to rid the planet of those who would oppose the new rullers of the Imperium (the church), though continents of troops are still sent off world to fight in the Imperium's armies, if that's mostly just to guard the penal colonies or space lanes of the region, or combat the occasional chaotic incursion (which few of the locals actually know about). So yeah, having a set enemy like chaos gives your army a reason for being and a gritty edge to add to them- like the Mordians, pressed unifroms and blue bloods, but they have to fight Chaos all the time. If your world's isolated it may be that faith in the Emperor has become paramount due to chaos staring the inhabitants in the face every day-ie add the odd purity seal, parchment and loads of Aquilas, plus a few priests (they don't have to use the priest rules though, they could be sergeants indoctrinated into the faith, or be riding on ceremonial pulpits on tanks). On the other end of the spectrum, which with the mutants you mentioned you may be more inclined to (btw skaven with kroot guns make great "Ratlings" ^^), it may be that though the palace guard regiments show an aura of perfection, the more common dog soldier regiment may have the odd mutant unit in it because without outside aid to combat threats such as chaos (and because of the higher mutants population due to the warp storms) that every "man" must be pressed to fight. The old guard codex let you do this via a White Dwarf article named "abhumans". This included such units as the dregs, the workers of the factorium, down trodden semi mutants (just give a model a shroud and treat them as conscripts), or the genitically modified Afriel Strains, super human warriors that unfortunately are flawed in that people hate them for their perfection (and universal albino skin). My own force's psycher battle squad is made up of the "degenarate" tribesman of the eastern wastes (ie the scots). They wear tatty robes, shackles, and there's the odd leper, plus they don't wear gas masks like the rest of the forces; just a tube up their nose. Psykers are meant to be sent to the black ships as per Imperial edicts, but with civil war brewing its difficult to send all them to the world's only star port, so you know the odd one finds themselves goaded into war by ignorant handlers with electro whips. Sure the question is what happenes to all these psychers when they make it off world. Do they get sent off to the wider Imperium; a ship full of psychers right next a warp storm = bad idea, or are they being held up in dark moon bases somewhere for nefarious uses, thus is it this congregation of psychers which is causing the warp storms and attracting deamons? ...Yeah...fluff head again.

This Leman russ looks so good Might try to make mine like this too, need to find a way not to make it too expensive.

Like all this fluff! I might go with one unit or two of non-humans, which is why they tend to keep a low profile... Don't want to attract attention of lords of terra or inquisition :p

As for the religious part, that is one of my main problems right now.. Because I would like them to be the non-religious guys, I read some pre-heresy books, and I really liked the mentality at that time: there is no god, the Emperor is just a man, which is even better (because it means that every man can do incredible stuff), there is no after life, etc..

But on another hand... My army is all white and gold, and seals, and.. Well, it looks religious, and cooler than just camo (in my opinion). Difficult to make them look religious, but not be religious.


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Oh, and since I intend on perhaps starting a space-marines and/or tau army later, this give me plenty of reasons to have them at the same place

I like the idea of "Well, no, they're not renegade... But still.. :/"

This beauty right? There's a tutorial on how to build it later on in the blog:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210465&page=4

Well the look that they have might be derived from the culture that they had before the Imperium showed up, thus though the lesser soldiers wear more practical uniforms, the mostly ceremonial palace guard wear the over starched uniforms of old-much like those today do, ie Swiss Guard etc. The seals could be painted red or blue or something and represent honours etc, like medals, parchment oaths to their leaders that they must take to join the palace guard, or to the ancient houses or guilds that their families may be part of or something. They'd have to have remained isolated from the Imperium for a good time though if your planning to set them in the 41st Millenium as "every" planet in the Imperium is said to have had a cathedral to the Imperial Creed by M34, and for them have been isolated that long would probably lead to very, very wide discrepencies in culture, technology and people-mutants, mutants mutants... So yeah, maybe it might be an idea to set your army a bit back, say the M37 period at most? This'd allow for you to do what you wanted with the look fo the models, plus because your using so many of the older guard models you've already got the older looking lasguns, vox casters etc.

Steel Legion models are great for mutant workers, but you could always use them to represent your vehicles crews-all those exhaust fumes would ruin one of those high collared Mordian outfits, so they go for something more practical, but still painted similar to the rest of the army. Hey those bowl helmets might be the way the soldiers used to dress back in the time of the great crusade-at least based on the art books, though if you really want crusade era looking guard get some of the Wargames Factory Greatcoat Troopers.=P

Edit: So they've got a bit of that pre church open mindedness that the Emperor preached about them? ^^

I was thinking about converting something with SM scouts bodies and beastmen/skaven heads (and I need to find a way to use these heads

I think I can find a way to have them fit in the 41k; quite far, isolated, church is there but can't get influence, can't mess with the government or the army, etc..

And greatcoat troopers looks good :p little bit like Steel Legion, and i'm trying to get a different look for each regiment, but might use them anyway

I have a vague plan to use the Spartan heads from that supplier on cadian bodies, and greenstuff greatcoats on - might look silly, might look cool.

And you can always convert/paint differently the greatcoats in order to give more variety

Oh yeah, i see the ones, good idea! Hope you'll manage to make it look good. I wouldn't go for greatcoats, already have a lot, but I don't have an idea right now about what could look well with these heads

Another thing I would really like to do is convert these guys into a IG regiment, without the shield (or maybe not, who knows)

Same, it might look really cool, or really silly :p

Scout's are a little larger than guard though, though seing as their mutants that shouldn't be a problem. They would end up looking far more techy than the rest of your army though- giving the rat headed mutants the best gear when the rest of your guys are trapsing about in greatcoats. ^^ It sounds as a crusade is going to be coming along to smite your world some time in the near future....

Oh wow, the Besiegers, haven't seem those guys in ages. Crossbows are really easy to convert into old style shotgun-just remove the prods and add a bolter barrel or something similar to the end, or old las-locks, similar, but add a las gun barrel. I'd leave them without the shields; though you could always use those on vehicles or something later on. They'd work great as count as Stormtroopers. If your using guys like that it might be an idea to make your company commander look similar to show his elite status, Warmachine has a load of models which ma work for this, if they are a tad out of scale.=P

Btw, the greatcoat troopers come with three different head variants, the Helghast one, a flatfaced gasmask one (its like their wearing boxes on their heads) and a king of rubberised head cover with integrated gasmask, just if your thinking that they looks a little too Death Korpsy...which they do... Still, stab proof vests are cool...if pointless when there's lasers whizzing by your head.

Keeping the shields for the tanks is a great idea WHFB's mercenaries have a lot of potential, like Pirazzo's guys, or Ricco's republican guard can make awesome stuff

It might get more challenging to transform the crossbows into melta, or even worse into autocannon, but it can be managed

For using the scouts, it was mainly because of this picture, which is quite cool

I think I should start painting/assembling the base of the army, before making plans of space-beastskaven psyker-soldiers It's better to stay focused

One of the command group could be converted to hold an autocannon- the standard bearer could hold the barrel, or the muscian a handle on the gun. Melta's are just a quick greenstuff job. The Republican Guard could work if you gave them Vostroyan style Las Rifles.

Hmn? But that's a cadian body. The Imperium generally frowns on the whole cloven hooves and horns thing, too chaotic, the ungor heads on chatachan bodies are about the limit-according to chapter approved, but its your army.=P

Heh, yup, I've finally gotten back to building my second vet squad after a long absence building tanks I'll rarely use and Mechanicus units that'll be obsolete in a few monthes.

Or I can just cut their torsoes, and stick them onto autocannon crew legs, then GS some armor plates. I don't really like using two figures to make one, because it gets quickly expensive, but that's still an idea

And I'd be interested to see pictures of your army in pm or something, especially the special units ^^

A lot of effort. Heavy Stubbers can make alright alternative autocannons btw, at least if your wanting to have a single man heavy weapon team- I'm using guys with LMGs (the german ones) mounted on 40mm bases to make them stick out from the regular troopers. =P

People have been asking to see shots of it for a while now, but I still haven't managed to get a new camera yet-and my sister sold my old one. Once I can find a decent one I'll start a blog or something. ¬¬

The BRB should have a couple of listed civilised worlds, similar to Ultramar.

Alternatively, as others have mentioned, Shrine worlds seem to be a decent option.

The Boros system was pretty civilized as described in Dark Creed. Sounded alot like Ultramar; under the protection of a Marine Chapter (White Consuls), IG and PDF regiments well-trained and equipped, not some hive rabble. And the civvie population was generally happy and stuff, but then the Word Bearers came and torched the system. I suppose your regiment could come from a smaller world overlooked by the invasion, or maybe its been X years since the disaster, and they're a a regiment newly raised to replace the horrendous casualties / assist in the rebuilding effort.