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Ahoy all
Recently I've been mulling over the experiences I had with GW when I was growing up and one of them was the instore campaigns they used to have.
Out of interest I was wondering if you could perhaps share you experiences with them and the reason as to why they stopped.

Wasn't that "Throne Of Skulls" thing they did recently a Store Campaign?..Or was that more of a Tournament thing?

High_Marshal_Helbrecht wrote:Wasn't that "Throne Of Skulls" thing they did recently a Store Campaign?..Or was that more of a Tournament thing?

I think it was a tournament type thing, I'm not entirely sure since they never informed me about it when I went into my local shop, while informing me about a big apocalypse game they were doing, I'd assume it would be somewhere on the mentions list

Ah well, if that wasn't a campaign then I don't know im affraid!

The last time I was in a GW the starter set for 40K came with cardboard ork Dreds!!

GW hasnt had a summer campaign for a few years. For 40k there were several, The Eye of Terror, Armageddon, and the last one, whose name escapes me but was the one responsible for introducing the Vostroyans.
On the fantasy side there was Albion, The Storm of Chaos, and The Nemesis Crown. One could mention Lustria, which was never developed into a campaign but was more of a sourcebook release which introduced rules for Jungle warfare.
The campaigns were worldwide affairs in which registered clubs and GW stores could fight themed battles and report their results on the GW website, which would influence the outcome of the campaign in the official fluff, in some cases advancing the timelines.
What happened to them is anyones guess. While they were designed to promote starting new armies with new units and special characters I dont know if they were profeitable enough to justify their cost. With studio staff cuts and other corporate cost cutting I fear they were made redundant. Also mentionable was the cries of fix from the net communities who seemed hyper critical of the entire thing.

Summer campaigns were scrapped because people would manipulate the mechanics for their self-reporting system.

The honor system doesn't always work well in these cases.

snurl wrote:GW hasn't had a summer campaign for a few years. For 40k there were several, The Eye of Terror, Armageddon, and the last one, whose name escapes me but was the one responsible for introducing the Vostroyans.
On the fantasy side there was Albion, The Storm of Chaos, and The Nemesis Crown. One could mention Lustria, which was never developed into a campaign but was more of a sourcebook release which introduced rules for Jungle warfare.
The campaigns were worldwide affairs in which registered clubs and GW stores could fight themed battles and report their results on the GW website, which would influence the outcome of the campaign in the official fluff, in some cases advancing the timelines.
What happened to them is anyone's guess. While they were designed to promote starting new armies with new units and special characters I dont know if they were profitable enough to justify their cost. With studio staff cuts and other corporate cost cutting I fear they were made redundant. Also mentionable was the cries of fix from the net communities who seemed hyper critical of the entire thing.

The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

No doubt, my friends and I have organized small campaigns before...but what I meant was a larger "community encompassing" campaign.
believe me Kan...it was a great summer.

Happygrunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the playerbase dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well


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FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

No doubt, my friends and I have organized small campaigns before...but what I meant was a larger "community encompassing" campaign.
believe me Kan...it was a great summer.

I really prefer the smaller, intimate campaign settings.

I didn't like how some of the GW campaign interactions went. I didn't like having people holler "WE NEED TO ATTACK HERE!!!!11!!" or trying to start up demands based upon nothing at all.

It also irked me that there was no real way to prevent "scouting" within the discussion boards for posting results.

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

St. Josmane's Hope was pretty much guaranteed to get offed!

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

My envy for you burns as hot as 1000 suns. You made your mark in history. I wish to someday have a little piece of official cannon for 40k.

The Fall of medusa V (or something) was pretty great, wish they did something like that again.

Kanluen wrote:St. Josmane's Hope was pretty much guaranteed to get offed!

That was the name I couldn't remember...
I get what your saying Kan...the system definitely had some bugs in it and the opportunity for "unsportsmanlike behavior" was certainly there,but all and all I still had a blast.

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluen wrote:St. Josmane's Hope was pretty much guaranteed to get offed!

That was the name I couldn't remember...
I get what your saying Kan...the system definitely had some bugs in it and the opportunity for "unsportsmanlike behavior" was certainly there,but all and all I still had a blast.

The mega events were the best part, quite frankly.

Medusa V's Harakoni Warhawk event was a pinnacle Games Day event for me. I'm just irked I didn't get a t-shirt, but I do think there's a few photos out there of me at the game

Happygrunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

My envy for you burns as hot as 1000 suns. You made your mark in history. I wish to someday have a little piece of official cannon for 40k.

Well...it was me and about 200 other Ork players worldwide....but yeah...it was really cool to get mentioned by GW.

FITZZ wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

My envy for you burns as hot as 1000 suns. You made your mark in history. I wish to someday have a little piece of official cannon for 40k.

Well...it was me and about 200 other Ork players worldwide....but yeah...it was really cool to get mentioned by GW.

Wait, wasn't the fight for the space over Cadia a HUGE BFG event? As was the ground battle? 13th crusade I believe.


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Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluen wrote:St. Josmane's Hope was pretty much guaranteed to get offed!

That was the name I couldn't remember...
I get what your saying Kan...the system definitely had some bugs in it and the opportunity for "unsportsmanlike behavior" was certainly there,but all and all I still had a blast.

The mega events were the best part, quite frankly.

Medusa V's Harakoni Warhawk event was a pinnacle Games Day event for me. I'm just irked I didn't get a t-shirt, but I do think there's a few photos out there of me at the game

Can you find some pic's to prove this?

I miss them as well. I still have my slayer army from the storm of chaos. I still get it out for an occasional game just to see how my opponents will react.

If anyone is interested, go over to warseer and do a search for eye of terror or any of the other campaign names. Rereading the old threads may help shed some light on why campaigns are no longer on the menu.

Happygrunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

My envy for you burns as hot as 1000 suns. You made your mark in history. I wish to someday have a little piece of official cannon for 40k.

Well...it was me and about 200 other Ork players worldwide....but yeah...it was really cool to get mentioned by GW.

Wait, wasn't the fight for the space over Cadia a HUGE BFG event? As was the ground battle? 13th crusade I believe.

Yes, but it wasn't restricted to just Cadia.

Part of the whole deal was that Abbaddon 'bought' the loyalty of several Ork Klans to wrongfoot the Imperium on other fronts.

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:St. Josmane's Hope was pretty much guaranteed to get offed!

That was the name I couldn't remember...
I get what your saying Kan...the system definitely had some bugs in it and the opportunity for "unsportsmanlike behavior" was certainly there,but all and all I still had a blast.

The mega events were the best part, quite frankly.

Medusa V's Harakoni Warhawk event was a pinnacle Games Day event for me. I'm just irked I didn't get a t-shirt, but I do think there's a few photos out there of me at the game

Can you find some pic's to prove this?

Even if I could, I wouldn't share them

What I look like while having fun is not for me to share with Dakka! You'll only get Kan in srs mode.

GW's Fluff has been stagnant ever since the Medusa Campaign, which supposidly happened in the last year of the 41st millenium. After that alot of "Legacy" characters were released in the codex books and the fluff didnt have much of a direction anymore. That could be the fluff reason why they havent done a campaign, as anything would move the timeline forward to the 42nd millenium.

The other main reason was probably due to the score padding mentioned above. I remember how the store basically was ready to give their majority win to the imperial side when Medusa started, because literally half the patrons were Space Marines, to say nothing of the Imperial Guard and Inquisitorial players.

I'd love more campaigns, but only on the condition of them promising to allow and maintain the army lists they produce for them.

If not, who the hell wants to shell out that sort of money on an army that's illegal in under 6 months.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I'd love more campaigns, but only on the condition of them promising to allow and maintain the army lists they produce for them.

If not, who the hell wants to shell out that sort of money on an army that's illegal in under 6 months.

One thing that Privateer Press does is create one-off versions of a unit for the
duration of a league. So if you use model x during the month of the league, it
counts as special version y.

Counts-as characters and units would be a nice touch for a GW league/campaign. They
just shouldn't sell it as a "whole new army" unless they plan to continue forward
support for said armies. If it's clear from the beginning that the model rules are
temporary, I think people would be more willing to try those new ideas out again.

Another thing GW could do would be custom wargear for campaign play.

Variant armies such as SM chapters, Kabals, and Klanz are perfect for Campaigns, provided that they can conceivably be made from existing miniature stock, as well as be re-intergrated as soon as the books become invalidated. Things like the Lost and the Damned though, really shouldnt be made into a campaign army. It's the only army I can think of that really cant fit "back" into any other codex. 13th Company can comfortably revert back to Space Wolves, and Ulthwe Strikeforce is basically a normal Ulthwe army with no heavy tanks.

Fantasy campaign had the Dwarf Slayer army with special models with
chain axes or something like that. There's no re-integrating that.

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Happy Grunt wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
The summer spent playing the "13th Black Crusade" campaign was one of the best for me,I was part of the Orks " Green Kroozade" and I swear my friends and I played more games and had more fun than I've had in some time..it would be nice if GW did something along those lines again.

This is a stance that has always bothered me.

Why does GW need to organize it? I mean, with a few days worth of effort--you and your friends could easily organize it yourselves.

Problem is, it wasn't official, and wouldn't really effect the story line. (I am guessing, never played one)

The official ones don't affect the storyline either.

They started doing them around the same time as White Wolf pretty much shot themselves in the foot with letting the player base dictate stuff from their campaigns.

GW though, realized it probably wouldn't end well

Well,in several small ways the campaign I was part of did affect some minor fluff, a penal planet was destroyed and the Green Kroozade got recognized as an "official Waaagh".

My envy for you burns as hot as 1000 suns. You made your mark in history. I wish to someday have a little piece of official cannon for 40k.

Well...it was me and about 200 other Ork players worldwide....but yeah...it was really cool to get mentioned by GW.

Wait, wasn't the fight for the space over Cadia a HUGE BFG event? As was the ground battle? 13th crusade I believe.

Yes, but it wasn't restricted to just Cadia.

Part of the whole deal was that Abaddon 'bought' the loyalty of several Ork Clans to wrongfoot the Imperia on other fronts.
.

Cadia was the "Primary focus" of the Campaign,but there were many sectors that could be fought over (at least for most races,Tau and Tyranids were limited to combat withing a small amount of sectors).
The campaign involved BFG and 40k and GW compiled the results of all battles daily and posted the results ,victories and losses in each sector on the website,planets and systems would go from being Imperial controlled to total anarchy and back again based on the tallied data from the participants.
The Green Kroozade was a confederacy of Oak players who decided not to go along with the Chaos factions who wished to post attacks in the Cadian sector,but rather pick a alternative sector and ,as a group,fight all our battles there,concentrating attacks on one planet until it fell,then moving on to the next.
The Scarus sector was chosen,and on day one of the campaign 150+ Oak players "attacked" the Imperial Forge world or Mordax-Prime (renamed Mordakka by the Green Kroozade),over the weeks more Oak players rallied to the "kroozades" banner and bit by bit More Dakka fell to the Orks,by the end of the campaign the Scarus (Skar-Uz) sector was on the verge of being taken.
It really was a fantastic summer.

malfred wrote:Fantasy campaign had the Dwarf Slayer army with special models with
chain axes or something like that. There's no re-integrating that.

The Dwarf Hewer never actually needed "reintegrating". From the get-go, it was listed as a "Dogs of War" unit for non-Slayer Dwarf armies.

Didn't they get rid of Dogs of War? Or was it already on its way out the door?

I think it was on its way out the door, but they did the Dwarf Hewer and Mengil's Manhide Flayers in such a way that you didn't need the Dogs of War rules to field those units with their respective armies.