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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 18:00:02
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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hi everyone,
i need help with spending my last points for a tourney.
this list is 1750 points and i need help with spending my last 130 points i've got left
CCS
4* melta
(in the vendetta)
PBS
4 additional
chimera
veterans
3*melta
shotguns
(in the vendetta)
veterans
3*melta
shotguns
(in the vendetta)
veterans
3*plasma
chimera+HHF
veterans
3*plasma
chimera+HHF
vendetta
vendetta
vendetta
leman russ battle tank
manticore
medusa
total: 1620 points and 130 left
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/01 11:49:26
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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really nobody to help?
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/01 13:42:20
Subject: Re:need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Tunneling Trygon
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With vendettas you won't move much as you want full use of the lascannons. For troop carriers I would kit them out as valkyries as these can move and shoot.
So, I would potentially change two vendettas for valkyries and then add another vet squad + melta with a chimera for 155. Drop plasma to melta on one vet squad to save 15 points and drop one psyker to bring you back in.
Or keep the 3 vendettas, add two more chimeras. With the remaining 20 points you could replace the medusa with 2 hydras.
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"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/01 16:28:33
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, unless you're really set on air-cav (in which case, you should probably get a couple more skimmers), you're going to want those vendettas as gunboats, not transports. In this case, a majority of your extra points should be absorbed by a pair of chimeras.
If you're looking to keep this list as as-is as is possible, I'd give the russ a lascannon and sponson bolters to everything that can take them with some doctrines for the vets, or a squad of plasma stormies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/02 10:04:58
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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yeh, i was looking for maybe 2 extra chimera's and heavy bolters on my russ.
i will never change my vendetta's, they have done to much for me... i winn battles because of them.
i have looked for some plas-stormies, but it is a simple kill point, 6 guys who came down, kill one thing and after that they will die.
hydra's could also, but i dont have the money to buy them.
and for the medusa, i like a bigg blast who can kill everything.
and what about this for 130 points? -> veterans, autocannon, 3* grenade launchers and forward senteries.
my reason for this will be my scoring units.
my melta vets have to go to the enemy line, so they will die when they step out.
the plasma vets will be shot and mostley they will die.
what if i hold just one unit in cover and claim a objective with a 3+ coversave and can also give some damage to other units?
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/02 11:39:50
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Something that has worked really well for me is:
Veterans with 3x flamers, sergeant with power fist, demolitions and shotguns.
This unit costs 130 pts.
I have taken out so many points with this unit. They always do their job and get their worth back. In my last game they took out Vulcan and a tactical squad in one round. Lost 2 guardsmen in total from this (close combat vs vulcan who later died vs the power fist).
Though... I mount mine in a Valkyrie. this to be able to get closer to the enemy.
Valkyries are really something you should try, unless you already have. If I have to choose between a Vendetta and Valkyrie, I'll go for the Valkyrie. the number of shots and wounds it can cause is unbelievable.
On to your list. Tons of meltaguns and tons of Vendettas... Are there really so many tanks in the turnament your gonna join?
I have an Elysian army, and I field 2 Vendettas and 2 Valkyries (in a squadron).
To make up for you last Vendetta I have 1 or 2 units of Storm troopers armed with meltaguns. comes down to 105 pts each... sure its alot, but they take down their target and are not a target them selves from the beginning, as they deep strike (re-roll if not satisfied of course).
If you want some more scoring, two units of Penal legions are cheep and can do some damage too if used right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 12:25:27
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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and what about this?
i have removed the PBS and a veteren squad with plasma gunners, and added a CCS with full plasma and a extra melta-vets with chimera
CCS
4* melta
(in the vendetta)
CCS
4*plasma
chimera
veterans
3*melta
shotguns
chimera+HHF
veterans
3*melta
shotguns
chimera+HHF
veterans
3*melta
shotguns
chimera+HHF
veterans
3*plasma
plasma pistol
autocannon
chimera
vendetta
vendetta
vendetta
leman russ battle tank
manticore
medusa
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 16:16:56
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, that should work.
My only concern is that your horde busting is a little thin. I'd be heavily tempted to swap out the medusa for a couple of hydras or take it out infavor of throwing a bunch of heavy bolter sponsons everywhere.
I mean, with all the TLLCs and BS4 melta, the medusa is the least necessary part of your army at the moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 16:22:13
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
Ipswich and riyadh saudi arabia
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In your first army you could throw in a hell hound but youve already filled your fast slots with the vendettas
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/04 17:22:51
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 16:32:05
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Drop a Lemanruss and add 2 Hydras for added anti-troop power.
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Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 16:43:28
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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ony one LR?? he is going to get shot in turn 2 or 3.. he's top priority target for your opponent..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 17:04:52
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Joske De Veteraan wrote:ony one LR?? he is going to get shot in turn 2 or 3.. he's top priority target for your opponent..
Yes, but what AREN'T those lascannons shooting at while they're vainly looking for 6's against AV14?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/05 10:00:45
Subject: need help for the last 130 points of guard!!!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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@ ailaros, youre right of the medusa, i think i dont need him.
i dont have the money to get 2 hydra's, so what can i get to replace?
@ joske de veteraan, my leman russ is not my top-priority target.
those vendetta's are the top-targets and the manticore. and if the russ will be set on fire, mostley he will survive with cover or he will not be damaged...
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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