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Ok, this is a half serious question, and also somewhat amusing to me.. but here it is..

About ten years back, I was getting a sarnie in Subway Middlesbrough, and there was a really fat American woman in the line behind me, she was white (and American by her accent) but she was wearing a Hijab.

I got an Italian BMT and after the bloke served me, he turned to this fat woman in the Muslim garb and asked her what she wanted and she said "change the gloves you are wearing, because he had pork and that is disgusting" and I said to her and said something rude back that I wont repeat on dakka..

Anyway, I have regalled my friends with this story in the pub many a time because my witty retort got some chuckles from the other people in the shop, and after a short exchange fatty chased me from the shop much to the amusement of the staff inside and we did about 4 laps of a guys car out front.

Now, id almost forgotten about this incident, until I saw this video today.




The lassie on the video looks JUST like the woman, but younger. And i had long conversations about this with my friends in the past, in that i have noticed a trend, in that white women who are raised in western nations but turn to Islam (sometimes very aggressively as the woman in the video) are almost ALWAYS overweight, and unattractive.

My hypothesis is that Islamic men purposely go after women who they believe will have low self esteem as they will be far more likely to not spurn their advances.

Does that sound about right? Has anyone else seen this type of thing before? Has anyone else seen a really ample woman in a Burkha or a Hijab/Niqab etc

And conversely, has anyone ever seen a really hot white women convert to Islam?

And finally, does anyone at all know a genuinelly good convincing reason that a white woman would turn to Islam even though it is clearly obvious that the women of Islam have less freedom of speech of action underneath the teachings of Islam?

Because this issue confuses me utterly!

Can I also say to our resident ban happy religious mod Frazz, that I have made no blanket statements about Islam that are not obvious facts (Women really do have less freedom of expression under strict Islamic doctrine if that isnt obvious), and I encourage others to try and stay within acceptable dakka guidelines as well.

Tell me some fun stories!

I've seen it too, and even the opposite, hot muslims stepping away from religion(awesome).

Seriously mate, its no coincidence is it?

Ive seen LOADS of gopping white birds in Hijabs.. but never a smoking one.

Well.. they can have em!

Haha, indeed. But yeah, a while ago there was even a documentary about dutch women turning to the islam, the entire show had not a single woman aproaching anything remotely satisfactory for a man. Weird thing though, some of them we'r single.

Good lucking getting a man there without your arranged marriage xD

Terrorist neckerchief he says. Hehehehehe...

"Um so, uh, um, yeah so... um in your pamphlet it says-"
"WROOOOOOOOOONG!!!"

mattyrm wrote:I got an Italian BMT and after the bloke served me, he turned to this fat woman in the Muslim garb and asked her what she wanted and she said "change the gloves you are wearing, because he had pork and that is disgusting" and I said to her and said something rude back that I wont repeat on dakka..

Wow, that's kind of a dick move on your part. While she probably could have been nicer in asking him to change his gloves, I've seen people act a lot worse towards fast-food workers. Vegetarians can be just as bad (dated a militant vegan once...ugh.)

Although I can't imagine very strict muslims or jews actually eating at a subway. Their practices are so far from kosher it's not even funny.

And conversely, has anyone ever seen a really hot white women convert to Islam?

You mean like Queen Noor? I think her family was Christian and left the ME.

You can talk about clothing and weight gifted women but lets steer clear from the Muslim discussion shall we?
You do know you found the video of maybe the only large person in Sand Diego under 30...

I've seen a few good looking women in headscarves and even in the full on burka (one can only assume they look good underneath I guess). But what you also have to remember is that Eastern Europe has a reasonable Muslim population and many would be considered to be "white" in skin tone.

There are also other racial, social and religious groups where women cover their head which you need to remember.

Frazzled wrote:You can talk about clothing and weight gifted women but lets steer clear from the Muslim discussion shall we?

No offense, but why? Christianity topics always last long. But when it's about the Islam it's not allowed? (not trying to be a jerk here, just think it's kind of weird)

There are also cultural differences by region. In the summer EVERYONE wears a hat in the South (if they like living anyway).

Soladrin wrote:I've seen it too, and even the opposite, hot muslims stepping away from religion(awesome).

The most attractive girl I've ever known was an Iranian expat.


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biccat wrote:Although I can't imagine very strict muslims or jews actually eating at a subway. Their practices are so far from kosher it's not even funny.

Practicality always wins in the end.

So what is the point of this thread?

I have met some, and I have seen some.

Even a casual google search will turn up plenty of attractive muslim women.

Maybe the OP has only happened to meet one's that HE finds unattractive.

Again, remind me why we should care?

maybe its radical women? they'll seemed pretty scary to me.

Also, I would like to take this opportunity to say that David Horowitz is the Noam Chomsky of the political right.

CT GAMER wrote:So what is the point of this thread?

I have met some, and I have seen some.

Even a casual google search will turn up plenty of attractive muslim women.

Maybe the OP has only happened to meet one's that HE finds unattractive.

Again, remind me why we should care?

Sounds to me like the OP is talking about converts to/from Islam.

Those Americans who go to Islam tend to be insecure (equated with fat and unattractive), while those who go from Islam tend to have good self esteem (attractive, see e.g. Wafah Dufour).

Whats really cool is, it looks like that room has all of 8 people in it.

biccat wrote:

Those Americans who go to Islam tend to be insecure (equated with fat and unattractive), while those who go from Islam tend to have good self esteem (attractive, see e.g. Wafah Dufour).

Ahh, sort of like female gamers.

Wow, this painting with a broad brush IS rather fun...

AGREED LETS GET OFF THE MUSLIM ASPECT.

Dogma, my missus has a good mate who is proper smoking hot, and she is of Iranian decent too, her mom came to the states when she was about 22 or something.

But she didnt "convert"

Im talking about white lassies who convert at a late age. I say they are almost always gopping.

How old was the woman in Subways when she coverted to Islam?

CT GAMER wrote:Ahh, sort of like female gamers.

Wow, this painting with a broad brush IS rather fun...

That's why gamers love the fatties. Low self esteem, just like us!

(please don't tell my wife I said that)

does anyone at all know a genuinelly good convincing reason that a white woman would turn to Islam

So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.

Frazzled wrote:Whats really cool is, it looks like that room has all of 8 people in it.

Well, its probably because David Horowitz was speaking as a UC school, but it might also be because the world has recognized David Horowitz as a douche nozzle.

I don't think I like either person talking in that video.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Whats really cool is, it looks like that room has all of 8 people in it.

Well, its probably because David Horowitz was speaking as a UC school, but it might also be because the world has recognized David Horowitz as a douche nozzle.

w must also note this is UC San Diego, with some of the prettiest country in this, well country. Taint no one wondering around worrying about Yawn some speaker Yawn when the "scenery" is so impressive. Dude the surfing's gonna be good...


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Ahtman wrote:

does anyone at all know a genuinelly good convincing reason that a white woman would turn to Islam

So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.

I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...

Ahtman wrote:I don't think I like either person talking in that video.

Same.

Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.

I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...

Ahtman wrote:

Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.

I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...

I didn't realize you only thought white people were normal and to not be white meant something must be wrong with you.

Frazzled wrote:Black I've never met a drow before.

I'd go with necrotizing fasciitis.

...and to quote Monty Python, "My scrotum's painted orange, and my balls are turning green..."

Frazzled wrote:

Ahtman wrote:

Frazzled wrote:So yellow, black, and red women don't need good reasons to convert, just white women? This would seem more of a cultural issue than an ethnic one.

I think if you're yellow, black, an red you've got bigger problems to worry about and should probably be consulting a physican immediately. Calling Doctor Gonads, Doctor Waugh Gonads...

I didn't realize you only thought white people were normal and to not be white meant something must be wrong with you.

I didn't realize you couldn't get a joke about being many colors at the same time. Don't get all butthurt.

Now that I think about those would be bad. Yellow = jaundice. Black I've never met a drow before. Red? Again, just really bad lobster sunburn people.