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The real question for me is what do they sell us after all the teams are out. There was talk about a new edition in 2020 perhaps Sigmar bowl? To sell us more teams? Perhaps 7s or dungeon bowl? Seems like they are pushing these teams out faster than they had planned. Maybe they will just do a big book with all the spike magazines in it and let it stand on its own?


Well hopefully we will get some sigmar teams, I expect dungeon bowl would be an absolute must , personally I would like to see some work go into a second sprue for the established teams, some star player types and alternative sculpts for positions like blitzers etc
   
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I'm liking the Saurus, though like others I'll probably leave the braces off if it's an easy thing to do.

The Skinks, they look too derpy to me, I don't know if it's just because the eye slits are painted to be looking sideways, if the slits were angled forward maybe they'd look a bit better? Dunno. I might buy a box and use the Saurus but keep using my old Skinks...

   
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Just saw Croc Blockers over on Warploque Miniatures page and I'm torn between them and the Guacamole guys

The warploque stuff is definitely more expensive but I really like their skinks (their head-fins are on each side of their head and are more like ears). Nice alternative if you have the coin, want metal or resin and like their sculpts.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm liking the Saurus, though like others I'll probably leave the braces off if it's an easy thing to do.

The Skinks, they look too derpy to me, I don't know if it's just because the eye slits are painted to be looking sideways, if the slits were angled forward maybe they'd look a bit better? Dunno. I might buy a box and use the Saurus but keep using my old Skinks...



Also, that's a cool looking team!

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 privateer4hire wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm liking the Saurus, though like others I'll probably leave the braces off if it's an easy thing to do.

The Skinks, they look too derpy to me, I don't know if it's just because the eye slits are painted to be looking sideways, if the slits were angled forward maybe they'd look a bit better? Dunno. I might buy a box and use the Saurus but keep using my old Skinks...


Also, that's a cool looking team!
Thanks! I went the simple path of not giving them shoulder pads and whatnot, once you hack the weapons off Skinks they're in surprisingly good poses for Blood Bowl out of the box, it's just the Saurus are a bit plain.

Hopefully those old Skinks with the new GW Saurus look okay next to each other, might need to add some loincloths and shoulder pads though.
   
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It's just hard to get pumped about the GW lizards when other companies are pumping out sculpts like these:



And most of their figures manage to keep that level of detail too!f

Is there any sort of resource for converting Blood Bowl stats to Blitz Bowl, or are they the same across the board?

With Blitz Bowl being a bit simpler I think I'm more likely to convince family to play it.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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I will also second the question of whether anyone knows a resource for converting newer teams to Blitz Bowl. My wife and buddies (who aren't mini gamers) love it, and I also enjoy it a lot. I wish they would throw stat cards or even just pictures of them in Spike or something. Blitz Bowl is a really solid game and needs a touch of support!

   
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Lizardmen are the weakest team by far sculpts wise, IMHO
Looks very GW- 2006ish.. and that paint job isn’t doing any favours. Is it FW? It’s weird to see those guys right after the stunning hobbit’s kit.
   
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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It's just hard to get pumped about the GW lizards when other companies are pumping out sculpts like these:



And most of their figures manage to keep that level of detail too!f

Is there any sort of resource for converting Blood Bowl stats to Blitz Bowl, or are they the same across the board?

With Blitz Bowl being a bit simpler I think I'm more likely to convince family to play it.
Looking at the page for those models, the actual prototype models don't look as good as the renders.

I'm also not a fan of the Ogre-like Saurus. I prefer the Star Player Lizardmen, though from what I've read they're too small next to GW's Blood Bowl teams. It'd be nice if there was a happy middle ground between "looks too weedy" and "looks like an ogre", lol.

   
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LA

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I think if the saurus were painted like this they'd look better. The red scales with the red loincloth, it's too much. There's no spot color/contrast color. The skinks eyes are painted to be looking to the sides instead of angled forward, just weird paintjob decisions going on here. I was iffy on the wood elves too but having seen them unpainted in person I can say they are wonderful. I imagine these will look great unpainted, cause this paintjob is doing them no favors..it's too cartoonish, with the wrong colors placed in the wrong areas.

And if the kroxigor looks anything like the total war ones it'll be a godsend.

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Gotta agree on the color choices- not that I can do a whole lot better, but I'm not an official studio painter either. The details are hard to discern with the current choices.

Of course, I just want models that look like the Total War art. Blood Bowl or Sigmar proper. It's not that much to ask!

Plus to be bulky enough to lumber and intimidate a Stormcast like they do in the books...

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
It's just hard to get pumped about the GW lizards when other companies are pumping out sculpts like these:



And most of their figures manage to keep that level of detail too!f

Is there any sort of resource for converting Blood Bowl stats to Blitz Bowl, or are they the same across the board?

With Blitz Bowl being a bit simpler I think I'm more likely to convince family to play it.
Looking at the page for those models, the actual prototype models don't look as good as the renders.

I'm also not a fan of the Ogre-like Saurus. I prefer the Star Player Lizardmen, though from what I've read they're too small next to GW's Blood Bowl teams. It'd be nice if there was a happy middle ground between "looks too weedy" and "looks like an ogre", lol.



The renders are for a new team I believe so there more in line with new BB.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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Yeah the renders are for Greebo's new team, but the test prints don't look as impressive as the renders.

The Star Player ones I prefer the aesthetic, but from memory they're a bit weedy (I think those are 25mm bases they are mounted on, so the Saurus are similar size to the current human team).

I was going to buy the SP ones, but decided to wait and see what (if anything) GW would come up with.

So does anyone have an idea when the GW ones might get released?

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On the subject of what next.

Do you really think they will do Sigmar stuff? This is completely separate.
(Also “there was talk of” as far as I’m aware was just people here and other places saying, do you think they will. I’ve never heard it from GW/FW themselves at events etc..
   
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Danny76 wrote:
On the subject of what next.

Do you really think they will do Sigmar stuff? This is completely separate.
(Also “there was talk of” as far as I’m aware was just people here and other places saying, do you think they will. I’ve never heard it from GW/FW themselves at events etc..
Not sure if they ever ruled it out, but I never got the impression they were planning to go that way anytime soon. Blood Bowl has always been in a separate universe from Warhammer Fantasy proper, no reason to believe Sigmarines even exist in it. They might do it to extend the lifespan of the game if sales figures are amazing, but not before bringing out all the other teams you might expect, and my bet is on never.

Although.. well. They might just blow up the Blood Bowl parallel universe too, then replace it with League of Sigmar, a fantasy hockey game featuring Stormcast and all manner of weird traditional fantasy hybrids like snailelves and slothdwarfs that nobody asked for.


(Admittedly, I'd probably be all over slothdwarfs.)
   
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My thinking too. It’s been separate so the End Times and becoming Sigmar is irrelevant, as it’s alternate universe.

I just think if you bring in AoS, then you run the risk of alienating a fan base for sure..

Definitely a long way off before we would worry, but as people have said. 8 more teams is end of 2021.

Alternate poses, or just redoing some teams is a good bet.
But then, yeah just new teams is my thinking, like they did 5e first go around, kept adding stuff.
It’s the same way Necromunda is going, redoing the old, mixing in new (admittedly they are getting new gangs/factions before all the old stuff is out, but similar patterns just switched..)
   
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Danny76 wrote:
8 more teams is end of 2021.


Just in time for edition churn..... erm, I mean a re-launch.

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http://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/ 
   
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 Easy E wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
8 more teams is end of 2021.


Just in time for edition churn..... erm, I mean a re-launch.
I would be surprised if they do a new edition at that point, they're more likely to leave it on the shelves until it dies and then bring it back in another decade or two.
   
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I heard they have, like, 4ish teams with new rules they've been testing in their in-company league, but they're not allowed to release them until after all the classic teams are out. If true, maybe they'll just keep going after 2021 with 4 new teams per year.
   
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I wouldn't mind seeing Bretonnians, they aren't a spectacular team by any means but I think it's the only way we'll ever see Bretonnians return in model form.

Personally i'm one of those against the idea of BB going into Age of Sigmar. Part of the appeal of the game is that it kind of has the classic fantasy old world vibe. They still have so many other fan favorite teams to do that it almost doesn't even make sense to do another edition, especially when the current one is doing pretty well as it is.

 
   
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Maybe, I’d be surprised if they weren’t looking at further options yeah. Aside from the not allowed part.
I mean it’s up to them really..
   
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 Thargrim wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Bretonnians, they aren't a spectacular team by any means but I think it's the only way we'll ever see Bretonnians return in model form...


Are these guys Bretonnians?
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Bright-Crusaders-2017
   
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 privateer4hire wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Bretonnians, they aren't a spectacular team by any means but I think it's the only way we'll ever see Bretonnians return in model form...


Are these guys Bretonnians?
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Bright-Crusaders-2017


Nope, they could be good proxies though. And they are last chance to buy, so they'll be gone soon enough.

 
   
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Official Bretonnian rules would be awesome, having got the Greebo kickstarter the other year. There are also the three teams that had rules but never got models back in the day; Slann, Underworld and Chaos Pact. The last two have the advantage of involving alternate models for Skaven, Goblins, etc. which means a) they could sell to existing players and b) they could use the existing CAD libraries as a base.

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Blood Bowl already takes places in an alternate universe to old Fantasy, doesn’t it? It could be amusing to have a realm gate open and teams from AoS come thru to augment the selection we already have. Not really Needed for awhile though, I’d just like to see a Sigmarine team is all.

 
   
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Zetan wrote:
I heard they have, like, 4ish teams with new rules they've been testing in their in-company league, but they're not allowed to release them until after all the classic teams are out. If true, maybe they'll just keep going after 2021 with 4 new teams per year.


... and then after that, you've got Dungeonbowl with a whole new raft of mixed teams (probably needing new sculpts). Probably keep them going for longer...

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Posted on the subreddit, made me laugh.

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As far as "new" teams after all the classics have been covered, I expect there are a few pretty obvious candidates that some have already mentioned above that would be easy extrapolations from Blood Bowl history.

The first two sources that immediately spring to mind are the computer game/test rules they released a while back, covering both the alternative human team (the one with two ogres), the savage orc team and then the two unique computer game teams: Khorne and Kislev.

I've always had a thing for a possible Troll team, similar to the ogre team, inspired by the tiny picture on the back of the old 2nd edition Star Players book. I used to play one in a league with friends that consisted of 4 x Trolls, 6 x Goblins and 16 x Snotlings. Chaotic and about as low-tier as it gets. But fun.

In terms of straight up plastic boxes, I wouldn't hold out on all that much beyond the "core" teams. Much of what I've already talked about can be done using existing kits of some variety. Would be nice to get a plastic box of snotlings and trolls, though... hmmm...

Similarly with Dungeonbowl, which is definitely the next logical place to pull inspiration from, most of those teams could simply be alternative rosters that can be constructed using existing miniatures. I fancy a "Black Widows" team of skeletons, dark elves and trolls, thanks.

Sigmarines aren't happening, ever. I make that prediction based on how badly the fans would react and how likely it is that the Forgeworld-based team currently working on BB would actually do it. It would be bad and it would be badly received. GW is GW is GW, but they definitely appear to be trying specifically NOT to make those kinds of mis-steps.

Two more suggestions that I hadn't noticed anyone mentioning but will probably inevitably pop up at some point:

Slann - unlikely, but possible. I would imagine almost anything previously mentioned beforehand, but who knows? They existed in 2nd edition (without models) and they were a cult classic in the LRB days. There's a precedent but it just feels unlikely.

Simyin - No. Never. Not in a million, million years. They are not a GW BB team, the fluff justification for them in-universe is utterly non-existent. They're simply a weird homebrew creation that inexplicably became popular.

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On the topic of 3rd party sculpts....

Man they did that quick. I'm actually glad that they're doing a chameleon positional too, now I'll have 3 different sculpts to differentiate my boys. As I'm going to get both teams anyway....

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On the topic of support after: Maybe they'll just make new teams? A lot of the Eastern part of the World wasn't really explored, and in the BB universe, they could do a whole lot of really weird and wacky stuff, like elephant men supporting monk-ninja-soccer players (What would Soccer be called in BB universe anyway?).

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They could do Cathay, Fimir and a few other obscure things...i'd love to see both of those.

 
   
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They need a Fishman team......

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Pete Knifton (BB artist who does the Mighty Blow strips in Spike!) has mentioned that he's been asked to do concepts for brand new teams for a couple of years time when they run through the existing lot.

I can't imagine they're daft enough to do AoS only races given the guys who work on BB know the backlash that would come. Sea Elves get name checked a lot in Spike! so I wouldn't rule them out (technically Edril Sidewinder is one).
   
 
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