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Just wandering, does the cleansing flame work for every turn of combat or only the turn of the assault

As i play orks it could suck in a big way!

i believe that it can be used at the start of any close combat round.

sorry orks and nids

Yeah you can use it every turn in every round of combat.

Without sounding like a sore loser but i think in friendly games i will refuse to play them, as i would have to have a very smart build play as tactically as i can all game to even have a chance and all he has to do is stand there and smile.

GW need to even this game out a bit methinks.

What is cleansing flame again? S4 hit to everyone in the combat or something?

Surely the Gk will need to take a Psykic test to be able to use it first?

after passing a psychic test, all enemy models involved in a combat with the purifiers will take a wound on a 4+ with saves allowed.

may not be the exact wording but it works

I believe that it is a hit that wounds on a 4+ for models in b2b, although this is based on what I have read online - I do not remember the codex entry.

This just requires some adaptation to deal with GK for horde armies that used to (lets be honest) have a ridiculously easy time with GK and MEQ.

if it's only in B2b that that wont be so bad will it? Might have to be more tactical when you move your models in for CC though.

I may be comepletely wrong, i've never played a horde army so not sure.

Cleansing Flame happens after Assault moves, piling in etc right before blows are struck, so it's very hard to avoid getting into B2B.

Well b2b is still better than the whole squad lol.

Sounds like the def rolla is gonna be working overtime.

It is every (enemy) model in the assault not only those in b2b.

It can be used every assault phase.

taylor048 wrote:Well b2b is still better than the whole squad lol.

It is EVERY enemy model involved in the combat, not just those in btb and NOT just the unit you are engaged with. If you are in a multiple combat then every enemy gets hit...

That is much better/worse than I had thought then.

Manimal wrote:It is every (enemy) model in the assault not only those in b2b.

It can be used every assault phase.

i thought so but wasn't sure. ok, i am ready for my book to release now. please?
why can't the next 10 days go by faster?!

Does the Cleansing Flame hit models that cant attack in combat because there more than 2" away from another model in combat?

rogersss wrote:Does the Cleansing Flame hit models that cant attack in combat because there more than 2" away from another model in combat?

As they are still in combat, yes, it does.

rogersss wrote:Does the Cleansing Flame hit models that cant attack in combat because there more than 2" away from another model in combat?

ALL enemy models in the same combat. ALL means ALL, it is REALLY simple

Its not B2B it is every model assaulting. It is on one elite choice unit and represents Grey Knights soul defence against Horde armies. Whilst iot means Horde armies no longer auto-win against GK it far from makes Grey Knights great against Horde armies. They are still primarily Elite MEQ killers particularly with their massed power weapon attacks now.

FlingitNow wrote:Its not B2B it is every model assaulting. It is on one elite choice unit and represents Grey Knights soul defence against Horde armies. Whilst iot means Horde armies no longer auto-win against GK it far from makes Grey Knights great against Horde armies. They are still primarily Elite MEQ killers particularly with their massed power weapon attacks now.

'Ard boys would still slow them down just fine.

Purifier get shoot to hell or get my Kans, can't "wound" Kans. Ohh no, I now have to think diffenertlly with my army, Poor Me..... no wait, its new tactics to try . New Codex means new meta, mean new ways to think, means more options, means new challanges, means more fun. Don't fear the new, CRUSH the new.

Well as i have been saying since i learned that GK would be coming out as a stand alone army. THEY WILL BE OVERPOWERED TO ALL SO WHY MAK THEM GW????????

Can anyone post the exact wording of the rule? I was told it was just the turn that the grey knights assault due to some wording about how it occurs after all the grey knights finish their assault moves, which only happens in the first round of combat.

i thought this would be horsegak. however strong the greyknights are, the fact is when they lose models it hurts them far more than another space marine army. just dont assault them and you should be allright, or if you do just make sure you weaken them substantially, you will not have many targets to pick from

Oaka wrote:Can anyone post the exact wording of the rule? I was told it was just the turn that the grey knights assault due to some wording about how it occurs after all the grey knights finish their assault moves, which only happens in the first round of combat.

No - it can be cast in either player's assault phase. The text refers to when it's done, i.e. after everyone has moved into contact, reacted etc. but before blows are struck.

ZXwarrior - quit overreacting. GK are FAR from overpowered.

Oaka - it's been stated by peopel who have seen the codex exactly how it works, however as you dont seem to believe them the wording is:

"This power can be used during the Assault phase in either players turn, after assault moves have been made, but before any blows have been struck. If the psychic test is passed, all enemy models that are part of the same assault suffer one wound on a roll of a 4+"

There is absolutely nothing in there that restricts it to one turn. nothing.

Thanks for the rule, nos, it's not that I didn't believe anyone, I just wanted to know how it was worded.

So, do you roll a D6 for each enemy model, or do you roll once and apply it to every enemy model in the assault?

Oaka wrote:Thanks for the rule, nos, it's not that I didn't believe anyone, I just wanted to know how it was worded.

So, do you roll a D6 for each enemy model, or do you roll once and apply it to every enemy model in the assault?

D6 for everymodel its a bit like everyone getting hit by a 4+ poisoned flamer or template.

D6 for every model, exactly like any other time you roll to wuond.

And they get normal saves.....so it's not as nasty as i originally thought then.

Still a very nice piece of kit though.