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2011/04/02 17:05:49
Subject: Video tutorial: grime streak and rust with oil paint and pigments
Enzephalon wrote:I love the effect. Can you please tell me which detergents you are using here?
Hi - I didn't use any detergent.
I think you meant turpentine.
Currently I use
- Mineral turp: Cheap but really smelly
- Pure gum turp: relatively cheap, but smells more classy
- citrus turp: turp that smells like orange - bye bye air freshener spray. But this stuff is really strong and will ruin your plastic so be careful.
Enzephalon wrote:I love the effect. Can you please tell me which detergents you are using here?
Hi - I didn't use any detergent.
I think you meant turpentine.
Currently I use
- Mineral turp: Cheap but really smelly
- Pure gum turp: relatively cheap, but smells more classy
- citrus turp: turp that smells like orange - bye bye air freshener spray. But this stuff is really strong and will ruin your plastic so be careful.
Cheers
Fasai
Ok. Thank you pointing this out.
Another question concerning this technique.... First you put some of the oil paint onto the rivets and then a mixture of the shown pigments and turpentine on the top of the tank, just to wash it with pure turpentine in the end, right?
2011/06/10 16:33:21
Subject: Video tutorial: grime streak and rust with oil paint and pigments
This video shows the application and the materials used, sort of, but it is lacking in details. Which is ironic, actually. A detailing tutorial that has no details about doing it...
So, which Vallejo Pigments did you use? The vid freeze is blurry. Also, since everything other than the oil paint you used is off-screen. Even most of the paint is. What color is the paint? When did you use which other materials and in what combination and strengths?
The song is flipping awesome but I am more interested in how you did this.
*edit*
In before necro-lock?
Ghidorah
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/06/10 19:35:06
Sorry if I'm still a noob at making tutorials. Thanks for pointing out that I'll need to add more details about what products to use and the procedure.
First off, you'll need to varnish your model - this is the most important. Otherwise, the paint will rub off and you'll be really sad.
The fundamental of this technique is fairly simple: varnish to protect and stain/add detail with oil paint. You can try and improvise or play around with how you want to do it and obtain different kinda result - I always play around a lot and try and change the order of what I do first, just to see what kinda outcome you'd get (with different varnish, paint and pigments etc - different product = different outcome)
Normally, this is what I do.
3 varnish (vallejo satin varnish)
(matte varnish = more texture = more stain)
(satin varnish = somewhere in the middle)
(gloss varnish = smooth = less stain, wash will flow better to crevices)
2 wash with diluted oil paint. You can dilute this as much as you want. If you want heavy stain then dilute less.
3 Add pigments, I use vallejo rust/mud set, but in this video it was mainly burnt umber oil paint that was the most obvious
4 for streaks, I added undiluted oil paint around the rivets and chipped parts (you can play around with different colors too, some people use multiple colors to create a discoloration effect, quite cool) then, using a large brush loaded with some turp, stroke vertically or in whatever direction you like - repeat until the streaks are nicely blended.
Of course if you have time on your hands, you can varnish and repeat these procedures. Remember that each time you apply turp on unvarnished surface, it'll wash out the previous layer of your paint, so if you want to work in layers, don't forget to varnish.
For the paints, I recommend Windsor&newton stuff. I bought the small oil paint pack with most primary colors and they're really strong. I also have a large tube of W&S burnt umber: the most useful color IMHO
Albeitlung 502 is also awesome = less stain when used for washing, I bought Black/Blue/Red/Yellow just so that I can mix various colors by myself. What I find though is that other than black, other colors are quite dull compared with W&S, I assume it's because it's meant for scalemodel applications so the pigments aren't so vibrantly coloured - please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
Infected mushroom = awesome.
Hope this is helpful - will make a better tut soon when I can manage to
First of all, LOVE the tutorial! Every time you post a new project you blow my mind! thanks for sharing you're techniques. It's always great to understand why something looks so awesome.
And secondly, I was literally listening to Infected mushroom in my car like 2 minutes ago The song's not actually Artillery, but w/e.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/06/21 01:54:59
2011/06/22 20:43:24
Subject: Video tutorial: grime streak and rust with oil paint and pigments
GK-1500 2W/3L
DG-3000 4W/1L
SW - 500 Unpainted 
The song's not actually Artillery, but w/e. 
3,000 and counting.
