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Good luck with your tourny. Too bad maxmini sent the wrong part. Their site is down right now so I can't check out the links you posted. I will check back later.

On another note, I had some time in Starbucks today and wanted to look up whether it makes a difference for me switching from SM Codex to SW codex.

The Razorspam build is wayyy cheaper in Space Wolves comparing to Space Marines. In term of cost, it is the same as Blood Angel.

For a 5-man + Razorback LasPlas:
BA: Vehicle is fast.
SW: Have Counter Attack, Acute Senses AND boltgun for free.
SM: Don't have FNP. Don't have Counter attack. Don't have Acute Senses. Don't have dual weapons AND it is 10 pts more.

I call shennanigans.

So, for your Space Wolves build, I suggest you go for 4-6 Razorback LasPlas with 5 guys inside. Each of these 5-man group has 1 melta gun.

leohart wrote:Good luck with your tourny. Too bad maxmini sent the wrong part. Their site is down right now so I can't check out the links you posted. I will check back later.

On another note, I had some time in Starbucks today and wanted to look up whether it makes a difference for me switching from SM Codex to SW codex.

The Razorspam build is wayyy cheaper in Space Wolves comparing to Space Marines. In term of cost, it is the same as Blood Angel.

For a 5-man + Razorback LasPlas:
BA: Vehicle is fast.
SW: Have Counter Attack, Acute Senses AND boltgun for free.
SM: Don't have FNP. Don't have Counter attack. Don't have Acute Senses. Don't have dual weapons AND it is 10 pts more.

I call shennanigans.

So, for your Space Wolves build, I suggest you go for 4-6 Razorback LasPlas with 5 guys inside. Each of these 5-man group has 1 melta gun.

Shenanigans is what I love best about my Wolves. They are fun to play and their fluff is awesome. Most of the named SM Chapters have more options than standard basic SM, Its part of their fluff and style.

More work done on the Mordian Iron Guard IG. I've been assembly line painting these guys, going through several layers of thinned down Mordian Blue, then I hit the model with some layers of Skull White on the portions of the model that the Mordian Blue layers have hit while I was painting late into the night. I then went over them with Elf Flesh so that I could work my way up to layers of Golden Yellow for the stripes and trim on the models.

What I'm showing here is that I use egg cartons to store models while I'm painting them, they sit loose inside and don't bang against each other, it also allows for me to easily move the models without getting my fingers all over them. They're cheap and come with eggs which you can eat and as one savvy dakka user has shown me, the egg shells can be cleaned and used for basing.








Lots of work to do and more paint layers to get through. As always C&C is welcomed!

Looking awesome. I should save some of my egg case for this purpose. I am currently putting them on an artist palette (the one with the round cups for putting paints).

Great tip about the egg cartons. To be honest the can is fine as is it's club scenery which is primarily to be used knocked about and gamed on I could take more time on it but as it's going to be brutally crammed into a box it's probably not worthwhile it's a better time investment to make more! That Thunderwolf Lord looks excellent and the frost axe looks great (it also looks cartoony in style which makes it nice obvious and blatantly not a power weapon).

leohart wrote:Looking awesome. I should save some of my egg case for this purpose. I am currently putting them on an artist palette (the one with the round cups for putting paints).

I know exactly what you mean!

Llamahead wrote:Great tip about the egg cartons. To be honest the can is fine as is it's club scenery which is primarily to be used knocked about and gamed on I could take more time on it but as it's going to be brutally crammed into a box it's probably not worthwhile it's a better time investment to make more! That Thunderwolf Lord looks excellent and the frost axe looks great (it also looks cartoony in style which makes it nice obvious and blatantly not a power weapon).

Thank you, they do rattle around in the egg carton, if I had more foam/padding to stuff inside I'd use these for troop transports. The egg cartons will hold Terminator sized models, they do it better if they're not in crazy action poses, but still they fit.

Yeah, if its community terrain thats going to be handled, then its fine and I highly approve. You could do something similar with the bottom of an egg carton, just turn it over, cut in half down the long ways attach to a base and you've got a piece of wall terrain.

My Thunderwolf looks Cartoony? O.o Do you mean the axe alone or the model as a whole? If its just the axe then are you referencing the blade? I wanted it to be used as either a frost axe or power weapon..

I could dull the colors down on it... hmm..

Thanks for the C&C! Keep it coming!

That egg carton idea is genius. I use fishing tackle box to store in progress minis, but I find that is scratches and chips the paint when it bumps against the sides. This will save me, I'll be using that Idea.

It also comes with a whole lot of basically free basing materiel.

Flying Pooo wrote:That egg carton idea is genius. I use fishing tackle box to store in progress minis, but I find that is scratches and chips the paint when it bumps against the sides. This will save me, I'll be using that Idea.

It also comes with a whole lot of basically free basing materiel.

Thank you! I had forgotten that basing tutorial regarding the egg shells was yours!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/412037.page#3891225


I also like the egg cartons because they're stackable and you can store them easily on a shelf or in a cardboard box! Now, the models will rattle around inside, but since its made of essentially paper/light cardboard then it doesn't chip or scratch.



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My light box set up is pretty basic: I use a couple blank sheets of printer paper taped to the sides of cardboard boxes and a desk lamp pointing straight down on top of them.

My camera is my cel phone's digital camera without a flash, I get in real close and have noticed that the camera picks up light differently if I angle the phone differently.

I take a ridiculous amount of images of the same models and then I delete the blurry ones and upload the better ones.

It might just be the concept itself. But I wouldn't tone it down. My comment wasn't meant to be an insult. I think it is cartoony in that it''s blatant and obvious in what it's mean't to be and created with a strong contrast. This is a good thing in a gaming army. To be honest with my Zulu's I look back and would have preferred to put in a lot more contrast even if it is cartoony. In otherwords if you think it looks good it is and don't let somebody else's opinion tell you otherwise!

Llamahead wrote:It might just be the concept itself. But I wouldn't tone it down. My comment wasn't meant to be an insult. I think it is cartoony in that it''s blatant and obvious in what it's mean't to be and created with a strong contrast. This is a good thing in a gaming army. To be honest with my Zulu's I look back and would have preferred to put in a lot more contrast even if it is cartoony. In otherwords if you think it looks good it is and don't let somebody else's opinion tell you otherwise!

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude! Llamahead, I never took your comment as an insult I just feed off of information and thank you for that and taking the time to explain what your thought processes and meanings were/are.

Cheers mate glad you took it at the right intent in the first place.

Hmelrose wrote:

dsteingass wrote:Wow Mhelrose! You are getting a helluva lot done over here! I lve the bike conversion! BTW, don't get frustrated with the copper tube, it will be your friend in time. I use a cheap, Taiwan-made pipe cutter like this:

It works great, and only cost me $4 at Menards. Probably the same at any Lowes or Home Dpot-type place.

Thanks! Yeah, I've got a lot of time on my hands + I don't sleep = plenty of time for hobbies!

The brass pipe is a little frustrating, but its not something I can't work with. It might not be the right thing for this conversion. Which item in that pic is the pipe cutter? Is it the red thing?

The options at lowes are primarily for PVC & Plastic pipe, though the last one looks to be for multiple pipe.
http://www.lowes.com/SearchCatalogDisplay?Ntt=pipe+cutter&storeId=10151&N=0&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&rpp=24

More work done on the Psykers:











Cameras are brutal, they truly show the flaws and mistakes in my painting!

Oh yeah, I need to put this here so I don't lose it: Flexible, roll-up-able, paint-able gaming mats!

http://www.zuzzy.com/dr-tf-001_terra_flex_gaming_mat.html

Where do you get the theme that 'Mordian Psykers' wear yellow shirts with purple sash and blue gloves? do you use any 'army painting' program computer? or did you experiment with DoW series? (i haven't play this game since i've finished DoW2: EXPANSION SET (one with IG player and each race has its own campaigns., which i've forgot its name mew!)

Lone Cat wrote: sash and blue gloves? do you use any 'army painting' program computer? or did you experiment with DoW series? (i haven't play this game since i've finished DoW2: EXPANSION SET (one with IG player and each race has its own campaigns., which i've forgot its name mew!)

I'm on my cel phone so I accidentaly deleted a big part of the quote. Basically, I wanted my Psykers to both fit in and stand out with my Mordian Iron Guard paint scheme, so I simply reversed the primary and secondary colors I was using, then tweaked them a little.

No programs or games were used other than my own imagination, though Mordian fluff describes their world as dark and that they favor bright/flashy colors.

The Psykers aren't done sadly, I've been jumping from project to project and leaving things mostly done. I will get back to them soon though.

Thanks! Hope that answers your question! Feel free to ask any others! C&C always welcome!

Llamahead wrote:Cheers mate glad you took it at the right intent in the first place.

Of course!

I highly doubt anyone on here would take the time to offend someone, haha

But then again there are some people who might...

Heh, so to continue this really a non-update, I've been busy with family health issues so not a lot of hobby stuff is going on, lack of sleep is also prevalent yet nothing new.

I have played a few more games of Warmachine when the timing can be made right with some fellow gamers and I'm still doing well with that. Altogether, Warmachine / Hordes feels like the game runs smoother for me. Yet I am a gamer so I will keep plugging away at relearning 40k.

paper terrain sites (the first one is INSANE!)

http://www.mythoz.org/Joomla/index.php/En - My favorite paper terrain site. Very attractive paper models.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fpm/archive - Beautiful buildings.

http://imperiuswargaming.wordpress.com/painting-and-board-log/making-paper-terrain/ - kind of Warhammer 40k-ish but some of it might help.

http://www.miniaturewargaming.com/index.php/mwg/category/Paper%20Figs%20Terrain/ - lots of downloads here, updated periodically.

http://paperwargames.blogspot.com/search/label/Escenograf%C3%ADa%20 - Spanish site. I use Google Chrome browser and translate it. Very good model buildings here.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~colinw01/ - More terrain and buildings.

http://www.ss42.com/pt-buildings.html - Tons of stuff here.

http://fitz.jsr.com/roleplay/props/buildings.html - A few more buildings.

^ thanks for that

Rogue Wolves wrote:^ thanks for that

You're welcome!

Thinking..

1500pts Space Wolves Army
Rune Priest [Living Lightning, Jaws, Chooser of the Slain] 110
Rune Priest [Jaws, Murderous Hurricane, melta bombs] 105
Rune Priest [Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane] 100

5 Wolf Guard [3 with power fist and combi-meltas, 1 with combi-melta, 1 with chainfist, terminator armour and cyclone missile launcher] 230

6 Hunters [meltagun, wolf standard, mark of the wulfen, rhino] 155
6 Hunters [meltagun, wolf standard, mark of the wulfen, rhino] 155
6 Hunters [meltagun, wolf standard, mark of the wulfen, rhino] 155
5 Hunters [meltagun, razorback] 120

2 Speeders [multi meltas and heavy flamers] 140

5 Long Fangs [4 missile launchers] 115
5 Long Fangs [4 missile launchers] 115

Total - 1500 points

Hmelrose wrote:paper terrain sites (the first one is INSANE!)

http://www.mythoz.org/Joomla/index.php/En - My favorite paper terrain site. Very attractive paper models.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fpm/archive - Beautiful buildings.

http://imperiuswargaming.wordpress.com/painting-and-board-log/making-paper-terrain/ - kind of Warhammer 40k-ish but some of it might help.

http://www.miniaturewargaming.com/index.php/mwg/category/Paper%20Figs%20Terrain/ - lots of downloads here, updated periodically.

http://paperwargames.blogspot.com/search/label/Escenograf%C3%ADa%20 - Spanish site. I use Google Chrome browser and translate it. Very good model buildings here.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~colinw01/ - More terrain and buildings.

http://www.ss42.com/pt-buildings.html - Tons of stuff here.

http://fitz.jsr.com/roleplay/props/buildings.html - A few more buildings.

I might consider download it. soak it with cyano-acrylate did strenghten this thing significantly
well for now i'm moving onto field fortifications acting as shelter/cover, while sandbag/hesco bunker (which thai grognard gives it a 3+) is too-delicate, too complex and time consuming, and a thai grognard had evaluated foxhole terrain piece as having 6+ or 5+ cover save. i'd need something that has a 4+ cover save. but can be built by a normal line infantry unit with folding shovel (without calling in the elements of engineer corps). can you help me think of the appropriate 'dug out' terrain pieces that have such quality? so I can begin this project (and finish it before April 2012)

meow.

That many rune priest? I have never seen that before but it will annoy the hell out of quite a few people .

Lone Cat wrote:
I might consider download it. soak it with cyano-acrylate did strenghten this thing significantly
well for now i'm moving onto field fortifications acting as shelter/cover, while sandbag/hesco bunker (which thai grognard gives it a 3+) is too-delicate, too complex and time consuming, and a thai grognard had evaluated foxhole terrain piece as having 6+ or 5+ cover save. i'd need something that has a 4+ cover save. but can be built by a normal line infantry unit with folding shovel (without calling in the elements of engineer corps). can you help me think of the appropriate 'dug out' terrain pieces that have such quality? so I can begin this project (and finish it before April 2012)

meow.

I think you're looking for a trench?

leohart wrote:That many rune priest? I have never seen that before but it will annoy the hell out of quite a few people .

Its something I'm thinking about, I need to get the mechanics of the game down again.

thanks for those link hmelrose! great finds!

Viktor von Domm wrote:thanks for those link hmelrose! great finds!

Always glad to share hobby finds!

This is for y'all who were wondering about my Canus Wolfborn conversion model assembled/painted piece. It was purchased as a bare metal model, assembled, converted and then painted over the course of a month's worth of painting for several hours a night. I'm working on a second model and then possibly a third.



This is pretty much what I stare at every night:


This is the fruits of my Space Wolf labors/builds:

60 Grey Hunters
30 Blood Claws
1 Lukas the Trickster conversion
6 Rune Priests
2 Iron Priests
2 Wolf Priest Ulrik the Slayer models
1 Ragnar Blackmane

and many, many more.. so many Space Wolves its silly, they overflow my BattleFoam 1520XL + Pack 216 bags..

i wonder why nearly all modlers have this thing for more and more and more and more... really it is plastic crack...isn´t it?^^

seeing that desk... i imagine myself sitting in a building frenzy...building for what it is worth mini after mini...forgetting about food...drink...social life and jobs...ah good times^^

So many. Must. Stop. Drooling.

Hmelrose wrote:

Lone Cat wrote:
I might consider download it. soak it with cyano-acrylate did strenghten this thing significantly
well for now i'm moving onto field fortifications acting as shelter/cover, while sandbag/hesco bunker (which thai grognard gives it a 3+) is too-delicate, too complex and time consuming, and a thai grognard had evaluated foxhole terrain piece as having 6+ or 5+ cover save. i'd need something that has a 4+ cover save. but can be built by a normal line infantry unit with folding shovel (without calling in the elements of engineer corps). can you help me think of the appropriate 'dug out' terrain pieces that have such quality? so I can begin this project (and finish it before April 2012)

meow.

I think you're looking for a trench?

yes. and the trench terrain piece has to have a lengh, height, and thickness that is generally agreed as having a 4+ cover save. given that my IG (well the fact!) army uses no conscripts nor fire teams (special weapons squad). only use rifle squad (10 men strengh) as a part of infantry platoon.

Btw, you should have a building/painting break and start playing some games. It should give you a clearer idea on what you need for fun games.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i wonder why nearly all modlers have this thing for more and more and more and more... really it is plastic crack...isn´t it?^^

seeing that desk... i imagine myself sitting in a building frenzy...building for what it is worth mini after mini...forgetting about food...drink...social life and jobs...ah good times^^

Yes, its plastic crack. I just can't stop building these models.. I don't sleep and so I've got a ton of free time on my hands to build. I'm working out new and faster painting techniques and have been reading up more on the Army Painters website.

Here is some quick painting advice from yours truly, The Army Painter has some great quick how to paint schemes for armies, this one is simple, you can use their primer, prime all the models or just the main parts you want, then prime the other parts another color and then paint your accents to match. Then glue the pieces together.. Then hit them with Badab Black or one of the Army painter washes/dips for shading.

You could get hundreds of models done easily in less than a week. (Provided they're assembled).

Then go buy a bag of colored sand from a pet store (these are for fish/reptile tanks) and use some pva or super glue on the base and dip the models into them.

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery.php?fFilter=true&Disclaimer=All&GalleryType=&ColourPrimer=&QuickShade=&dId=0>Id=2&cpoId=&qsoId=

leohart wrote:So many. Must. Stop. Drooling.

Haha.. Thanks Dat, I just need to get through all of these models.. I blew through a can of Army painter grey primer... that was crazy easy. I need to get more.

Lone Cat wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:

I think you're looking for a trench?

yes. and the trench terrain piece has to have a lengh, height, and thickness that is generally agreed as having a 4+ cover save. given that my IG (well the fact!) army uses no conscripts nor fire teams (special weapons squad). only use rifle squad (10 men strengh) as a part of infantry platoon.

A trench or a wall should suffice, I think that you could make either of those fairly easily. A trench simply being a hole or ditch dug into the ground for a bit. If you're looking for a paper trench terrain piece.. I think you could draw one fairly easily.

leohart wrote:Btw, you should have a building/painting break and start playing some games. It should give you a clearer idea on what you need for fun games.

I keep going up to GW Tomball when I have time, but everytime I'm up there no one wants to play or the tables are full. I do need to get some more games in, its been awhile, but I think I'll scare people if I show up with all of these models, haha.

I have a few more pics to upload from tonight's work. Been trying to get these models finished for the painting competition this weekend at GW Tomball.


Oh yeah, I want to put these links here for safe keeping:
http://space-wolves-grey.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-convert-space-wolf-characters.html

http://space-wolves-grey.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-to-make-pre-heresy-space-wolves.html



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Here's some shots of my current BattleFoam Pack 216's current status build:





Here is the BattleFoam Pack 1520XL




My almost finished Canus Wolfborn paintjob:





The basing is still being worked on:


My two Thunderwolf models next to each other.. I have a few more I can work on, some off brand wolf models and another metal Canus model, but I'm holding off on carving up another metal model for now. I'm thinking of getting and trying to work with some of the finecast or build a mold from this metal model and cast some resin models, but thats a project for another day.



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I'm also putting these here as they're similar to the way I've been painting my Wolves lately.

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=42&Gallery=Space%20Wolf%20Squad&page=1

http://www.thearmypainter.com/gallery_presentation.php?GalleryId=99&Gallery=Space%20Wolf%20Grey%20Hunter&page=1

Those wolf calvaries look awesome. Love the basing as well. They are prime target to get sucker punched by my scout power fist. :p

leohart wrote:Those wolf calvaries look awesome. Love the basing as well. They are prime target to get sucker punched by my scout power fist. :p

Haha.. we shall see.. I still have 5 more Thunderwolves, maybe 6 ( if I don't use this last metal model to try to create a cast ). Lots to do before this weekend!

I've got my Wolf Grey Primer & Dark Tone shade ordered & paid for through Fat Ogre in the Woodlands, Tx. I picked up some more grass for my basing, so we'll see how things come out over this weekends painting competition at GW Tomball.

Good luck on that one. Post some pix of your stuff once you have them submitted.

leohart wrote:Good luck on that one. Post some pix of your stuff once you have them submitted.

Some Space Wolves I've been working on, Grey Hunters fronted by a Rune Priest:







I've got some basing left to do, I need to add snow and maybe something else.
I have some shoulder armor painting/clean up, then I need to figure out which vehicles to submit with them to add up to the Battlebox sized force.

Let me know what y'all think!