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leohart wrote:Whoa, the last ever 5th edition tournament. That sounds interesting.

I doubt it will be the last LAST 5th edition tournament ever, but it might just be for GW Tomball Crossings store.

Now, I've uploaded a ton of pics last night and I still need to upload a ton more, like more than a few hundred more... so I'm going to post some links to the albums that have had updates and then I'll post my updates here in the blog:

0) The overall Gallery:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/user/50179-Hmelrose.html

1) WorldWorks Games Pirate ship aka The Maiden
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-26440_Worldworksgames%20Ship%20Project.html







2) 40K Dark Angels / SM / Space Marine Paint Commission - these are the only current pics I have of the models, didn't get them all because I was busy painting everything for my friend before he had to leave for WargamesCon in Austin, Tx
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-27084_40K%20Dark%20Angels%20Paint%20Commission.html





What else do I have coming down the pipe? I need to work on those Mordian Iron Guard, I loved that Empire Pistolier head w/ Cadian torso conversion and would like to do that. I have a large WFB Empire Army to build and paint as well as numerous other tweaks to projects I'm working on. I've got a ton of models to paint and build. I'm open for commissions and for paint schemes/build concept ideas!

That DA force was done very fast Hugh. Great job. I am looking forward to getting more buildings for my table as well.

You should finish up those Mordian Iron Guard for a detachment and then build another detachment with Empire Pistolier head w/ Cadian torso. Now that ally rule is in, you can work on small groups and still play them all.

leohart wrote:That DA force was done very fast Hugh. Great job. I am looking forward to getting more buildings for my table as well.

You should finish up those Mordian Iron Guard for a detachment and then build another detachment with Empire Pistolier head w/ Cadian torso. Now that ally rule is in, you can work on small groups and still play them all.

Thanks dude, I had to work fast as he needed them done. I heard you picked up some terrain, looking forward to seeing your progress on them.

I'm currently working on a Pirate themed Empire WFB force and will be using the Dreadfleet models as unit fillers.

Dreadfleet models? You mean those ships?

leohart wrote:Dreadfleet models? You mean those ships?

Yes, I have a Dread fleet boxed set with model ships on plastic sprues to build, paint and all that, they'll work as unit fillers to increase space, so I'll have to field less models in a particular unit.

New paints and primers have arrived! So dang excited to get back to painting, up on the block are some Bretonnian Peasant Menat arms, some skaven, lizardmen, khador and especially the Mordian iron Guard.

About damn time. More pictures please.

leohart wrote:About damn time. More pictures please.

Haha, alright. On my table I've got:

Some 5th edition Lizardmen:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-25750_Warhammer%20Lizardmen.html



Working on my Empire Army:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-27305_Warhammer%20Empire.html



These Skaven:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-27324_Warhammer%20Skaven.html


This little old White Dwarf Pirate Dwarf solo, which might mean I now have to pick up the Dwarf Pirate Slayer models
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat500015a&prodId=prod1140044
and make a unit out of them and this model:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-27304_White%20Dwarf%20Pirate%20Dwarf.html


Tossed up some more picks of that Dark Angels Commission:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-27084_40K%20Dark%20Angels%20Paint%20Commission.html


As far as my colored primers that arrived, I've got Alien Purple, Wolf Grey, Leather Brown, Pure Red and Ultramarine blue, my P3 Black & White and a shitton of models to prime and paint, lol.
http://usshop.thearmypainter.com/products.php?ProductGroupId=2

I'm planning to use the Ultramarine Blue on my Mordian Iron Guard models to get them closer to done faster. Hopefully this blue will match well with the models I've already painted.

The Alien Purple is slated for the 5th Edition Lizardmen, they'll be primarily purple with some accent colors like hawk turquoise for the scales and then white for the edging.

The Leather Brown is slated for the remaining Bretonnian Peasant Men at Arms, the Empire Militia and especially the Skaven.

The Wolf Grey was used previously on my SW and I didn't like the color on them, I prefer a more adeptus grey for my wolves. So, I'll have that available for some other project. I still have some Cygnar to paint and that might work for the gun mages.

The Pure Red I've put to use on a lot of different models, like the Red Orks, I like it and have thought of making some of the Lizardmen bright red or using it on the Empire troops. I know I'm going to use it to Prime my Warmachine Khador models and I might pick up some Blood Angels then hit them with the Red to get them done and on the table fast.

Lots to do and work on, just trying to keep busy.

Any spray cans that you don't need can always be used later on for Bretonnian . Alrighty, let's get some done.

leohart wrote:Any spray cans that you don't need can always be used later on for Bretonnian . Alrighty, let's get some done.

haha I only need to prime the last men at arms models for my bretonnians, the remainder still need to be painted fully, i.e. accent colors etc. Everything is currently primed in the correct base colors.

I've built out the Skaven and finished building the Lizardmen models I have, so I'm going to prep them for priming by stapling tape to a strip of cardboard with the sticky side up and then sticking the models to the cardboard/tape combination. With all the rain its going to be a little wet for priming, so I'm going to continue building the Empire Models and get them to a prime ready state.

I've been prepping the Mordian Iron Guard as well, by lining them up and sticking them to a similar tape setup, then I'll hit them all with ultramarine blue. This model was primed with the now out of production Army Painter Navy Blue Primer, I'm hoping the Ultramarine blue Army painter primer is at least close.


I need to glue and prep the bases of the Khador models I'm going to prime with the pure red:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-22658_Warmachine%3A%20Khador.html

I really like your stuff here! Really love the guard very cool!

Subbed,

HAZZER

You are just a madman with the army building Hmelrose! You've been very prolific!

Wow. Just took some time to go through your photo gallery. I barely scratched the surface! Really enjoyed the CSM and Terrain, will dig in deeper later, and will go back through this thread as well. Posting here now to say "hi", and subbed! I'll be back for sure.

HAZZER wrote:I really like your stuff here! Really love the guard very cool!
Subbed,
HAZZER

Thanks HAZZER! I'll be getting some more work done on the Mordian Iron Guard soon!

dsteingass wrote:You are just a madman with the army building Hmelrose! You've been very prolific!

I am a madman Dave! I just can't seem to stop building armies!! I've got some Infinity models and some D&D/Pathfinder models as well as a ton of others. I'm looking at Freebooter's Fate, those Pirates are sweet looking! Your work continues to inspire me to work, Keep it up!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Wow. Just took some time to go through your photo gallery. I barely scratched the surface! Really enjoyed the CSM and Terrain, will dig in deeper later, and will go back through this thread as well. Posting here now to say "hi", and subbed! I'll be back for sure.

Skalk! Hello thar! Thanks the CSM are some older models I need to revisit, I keep getting into a project and then take a flying leap into another one. Welcome to my little corner of Dakka!

With all the rain and humidity we're getting here in Houston I'm not going to be able to prime as easily as I normally would. Also, I want to prime a ridiculous amount of models all in one night, going to make this place stink with new primer smell. I'm also still on the fence with the color schemes I'm working out, so I'm just building and building more and more models. Today, I took a little time and put together some Empire Militia models in what I hope is the most Pirate looking of configurations!









15 fully built and am looking at completing the box set later tonight if work doesn't get into the way. I still have the pistoliers, the two cannons, greatswords, Knights and more to assemble and work out the color scheme.

Also, I'm reading up on the 6th Edition 40K rules just to keep things light.

this looks... Promising...

Looking good...

Galorn wrote:this looks... Promising...

lol, thanks Galorn! I'll try to keep y'all interested.

HAZZER wrote:Looking good...

Thanks HAZZER!

I'm still in build mode, putting together these Empire models and sorting out some heads and feathers to use on the recent WD Cadian w/ Empire Pistolier head conversion army, I just think they look sweet and I've seen a few others on dakka that are really well done in a steampunk IG fashion.

Here's some pics of the concept:






So those should look nice paraded next to my Mordian Iron Guard, The Fenrisian Guard, The Cadians, The Catachans and I'm also looking at ordering in some Victoria Miniatures Kilt Legs for her highlander conversion sets:

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/highlanders?pagesize=12

http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaMiniatures

She's also one of the only places you can get enough pieces to kit bash some Praetorian IG models together.

Lots coming up and so much supergluing and pinning going on here its not silly. The rain is preventing any priming so no paint slinging for a few more days.

Thanks for stopping by!

Oh yeah.. and I have these Praetorians on the way, I'm seriously excited about these as I had the boxed set when it first came out and gave everything away in a crazy trade off that I'm still working to get back from friends who no longer play.

Lokking forwad to the next supply drop!

HAZZER wrote:Lokking forwad to the next supply drop!

Thanks HAZZER!

I got a bit more work done today, damn rain and work keep getting in the way, but before I talk about that I want to touch on something:


Recently, at WarGames Con 2012 in Austin, Tx (which I had a bunch of friends attend) Someone did the unthinkable and stole from another gamer. I'm going to keep my response short: This is UNACCEPTABLE!

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/07/brent-to-catch-thief-bells-most-wanted.html

Obviously, I could go on, but I would be screaming in caps across this page, if you read this, could you click on the BOLS link above and share it, so that maybe this guy could get his well painted thunderwolf model back. Thank you.

Tonights work consisted of more Empire Models being put together and realizing that while I've put the Skaven models from Island of Blood on their bases, I forgot to glue them down.

/facepalm i.e

So thats what I'm doing right now.

Then I need to glue some Warmachine Khador models together for our weekly Warmachine game night at Fat Ogre Games and Comics in the Woodlands, Tx

Pictures will be forthcoming soon!

i dont know what happend because i know i was subbed to you, ugh dakka playing mind tricks on me again! well im loving this pirate stuff you have! and i must ask, where is that amazing boat from?

Rogue Wolves wrote:i dont know what happend because i know i was subbed to you, ugh dakka playing mind tricks on me again! well im loving this pirate stuff you have! and i must ask, where is that amazing boat from?

Thank You Rogue and welcome back! lol. The Pirate ship Paper model is from a company called WorldWorksGames
http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?view=product&product=24

I believe if you look at the Gallery, there is a picture and some more details, which I need to toss into here!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-26440_Worldworksgames%20Ship%20Project.html


Here's some shots of the 5th Edition Lizardmen:


Warriors:


Skinks with bows (which they no longer have according to the current codex, its all blowguns!):


The Empire Army build:

Cannons!


I love these bead bins from the craft section at my local Walmart, ($4.97). They hold an entire Empire Battalion Box set (Knights, Cannon, State Troops, Rifledudes), 1 more Cannon, 1 unit of Pistoliers, 1 unit of Militia, 1 Empire General set, 1 WitchHunter, 1 Empire Priest, 2 Empire Captain and assorted tools and bits! I've used them to help sort and organize all my armies and projects so I have an individual bin set for each army. You can also find them in the tackle box section for at least a dollar more:


The Skaven from the Island of Blood set:

I had set them all on top of cut out boxes with overturned sticky side up tape stuck to them, this helps with priming and rotating of the models, they don't fall over. I somehow put all of these models on their bases, but forgot to superglue them down. O.o


This is after spending some time tonight gluing them to their bases:


From the side:


And, here is a shot of the Lizardmen and the Skaven after being stuck to tape and glued to their bases. I'm still undecided whether I'm going to attach the shields to the warriors and then prime them or prime them and then prime the shields separately then attach. I think the leaving them off is the better plan at this time.


I pulled this part off another post and wanted to get it here so that I could easily find it later, I don't dip using minwax or army painter, I have brushed it on some of my models and it does make a shiny difference!

The Army Painter to Minwax aproximate equvalents are as follows.

Soft Tone = Pecan
Strong Tone = Antique Walnut
Dark Tone = Tudor
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/421593.page
per that forum

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-50179-22471_40K%20Space%20Wolves%20Army.html
I used the army painter dark tone on the most recent of the space wolf models in that gallery

Apologies for the delayed responses, we've been dealing with a lot of weather issues out here in South Texas, lots of rain and flooding, but we're all good in the hood.

Took a little time to work more on my models since I'm not really getting time to prime and paint, 100% and more humidity with the rain involved tends to put a damper on the process, so I'm just building models and planning projects.

You might have noticed these models in a recent White Dwarf, I'll have to go get the # because I thought they were a brilliant, yet simple conversion I just had to try and duplicate them!


So I gathered my bits and threw together a test mini, you can see its a very simple conversion, the heads are from the Warhammer Fantasy Empire Pistoliers Set and you get about 15 heads, though not all the heads are helmeted with feathers, and the rest of the model is the Cadian Torso, legs and arms. Pretty simple and cool! I think there are more helmets heads with feathers in other Empire kits, but the pistoliers seem to have the most.


This is what the model would look like fully put together.


By building a test model you can see how everything will fit together and get an eye on what problem areas you might have with a brush. With the arms glued on and the gun across the chest I can see that I'll have issues reaching the chest portion of the armored vest. So, I'll remove the arms and prime those separately and glue them on at the end of the paint job.

I can assemble the torso and legs with the head, then I'd only have some issues around the front of the neck area of the model. I think this will be negligible, so I'm not going to worry about it at this point.

The models arms will need to be assigned before hand and then I'll need to keep track of who gets what arms, I'm undecided it I want to go generic lasgun or lasgun with bayonet. I don't like the separate hand to arm the lasguns have and will most likely align then glue those together first, if I don't pin the hand to the arm itself.

I'll prime all of these with P3 White Primer for ease in getting the similar white colors to the model in the picture, though with the acquisition of the Praetorians, I might not paint these guys up in the red/white color scheme depicted. I know I won't go with blue simply because the Mordian Iron Guard models will be blue. So I'm thinking maybe a Green or a Purple might go well with the black armor, white pants/gloves or I could go with a slightly darker red than I would with the Praetorians.

So many options! What do you think?

A Brief History of the Praetorian Imperial Guard Miniature Range

The Praetorian's were created for the 1997 UK Gamesday's Mega Display 'Massacre at Big Toof River'. The original models were based on Alan and Michael Perry's Mordian Iron Guard, for the most part simply head swaps though some additional models were also created including the Standard Bearer and Kneeling with Lasgun poses.

Due too significant interest in the models GW made the decision to release a platoon sized Limited Edition Box Set, this was followed by a blister release and their inclusion in the GW catalogue though some sources maintain this was an 'accident'.

The Praetorian range was finally dropped from production in late 2007 as part of GW's reorganization of their Mail Order and Back Catalog/Classic Miniatures service.

Occasionally rumors of new dress uniformed plastic Guardsmen from Gamesworkshop have surfaced, however these have all so far proved unfounded with no sign of further support for the regiment - especially given their total absence from the latest edition of the Imperial Guard codex. They have not been completely forgotten about at head office yet though, in summer 2009 a Praetorian novel by Richard Williams was considered by Black Library as part of their popular 'Imperial Guard' series of novels, though unfortunately at this time that project has been shelved in favor of another. This has now been published, and is titled 'Imperial Glory', the similarities to Praetorian's are noticeable however - reading it is recommended.

Games Workshop Praetorian Related Articles

"Massacre at Big Toof River" - UK Gamesday '97 Programme (below), Extract in US WD217
"Massacre at Big Toof River" UK Gamesday '97 Mega Display Article - UK & US WD218
"The Praetorian XXIV" - Booklet, Praetorian Imperial Guard Limited Edition Box Set (below)
"Last Stand at Glazer's Creek" Battle Report - UK & US WD218, Spanish WD39
Slave Raid at Melfa River" Canadian Gamesday '99 Mega Display Article - UK WD243
Praetorian Jeep Conversion - Doc Butcha's Conversion Klinik article in Citadel Journal 29
Praetorian Lancers and Horse Artillery Conversions - Doc Butcha's Conversion Klinik article in Citadel Journal 36
Medusa V Campaign Vox Cast's - Fan Written, published by GW on the Medusa V Website (below)

http://www.sodemons.com/gwmuseum/orksdrift/orksdrift.htm

http://www.victorialamb.com/wugs/Praetorians/index.htm
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/captain-caine-1

Col.Gravis is considered a great resource for Praetorian Lore and his articles are found on Dakka as well as other sites:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/208605.page
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=190711.0
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=114741.0

Brief History of the Praetorian Range

The Praetorian Imperial Guard were created for the 'Massacre At Big Toof River' Mega Display (Pictures : http://www.sodemons.com/gwmuseum/orksdrift/orksdrift.htm ) which appeared at UK Gamesday '97. The original models were created by Michael and Alan Perry and were based as is apparent on the Mordian Iron Guard, extreme interest lead to GW releasing a Limited Edition Box Set (Picture : http://www.solegends.com/citle/citle2000/misc/praetorianBox.htm ) which was later followed by a release in blisters.


Miniature Availability

The Praetorian miniature line is no longer available in the shops, they can no longer be ordered from mail order/online and are no longer part of the classics range:

UK - http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=301326&orignav=301117
US - http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=301326&orignav=301117&GameNav=301115


Alternatively a method of collecting Praetorians is too purchase models second hand from trading forums such as that on this website or other websites such as Ebay, a number of collectors have also based conversions from the Cadian Plastic range.


Games Workshop Praetorian Articles

Background piece to Praetoria and 'Massacre at Big Toof River' can be found in the Gamesday '97 Programme, reproduced below.
Coverage of 'Massacre at Big Toof River' can be found in UK WD 218.
Praetorian background piece can be found in the leaflet accompanying the Limited Edition Box Set Release, reproduced below.
The Battlereport 'Last Stand at Glazer's Creek can be found in UK WD 222 - This is a Special Scenario played in 2nd Edition 40k based around Rourke's Drift and the classic film 'Zulu'. Believed to also appear in Spanish WD 39.
Doc Butcha's Conversion Klinik article in Citadel Journal 29 featuring Praetorian Jeep.
Doc Butcha's Conversion Klinik article in Citadel Journal 36 featuring Praetorian Lancers and Horse Artillery.
Praetorians feature in Canadian produced Games Day '99 Display 'Slave Raid at Melfa River', covered in UK WD 243.



Official Background Material

Taken from the Booklet which accompanied the Limited Edition Box Set:

The Praetorian XVII

From their initial planet fall as inexperienced colonists to the present day as hive-toughened warriors, the Praetorians have had to fight to survive. Over the centuries they have adopted a strict discipline which together with their talent for organisation of the smallest details (essential in a hive where even the air is rationed) serves them well on the battlefield. They detest slovenliness and disorder, and even at the height of battle will ensure that their uniforms are correctly buttoned and the buckles on their ammunitions pouches polished to a brilliant shine.

Taken from the Gamesday '97 Programme:

Massacre at Big Toof River

Montar VII is a minor dustball of a planet that orbits close to the second sun of the sparsely populated inhabited Montar system. The planet is an inhospitable place with little in the way of natural resources, and was largely ignored by the Imperium - until a drifting space hulk deposited the Bloody Hand Ork tribe on the planet and their leader, Warlord Bullgarg, claimed it for his own! The Bloody Hand tribe, or Blood Handz, as they are often called, are one of many Ork tribes that inhabit the Galaxy.
Until they came to Montar VII, the Bloody Hand tribe were nomadic raiders whose only home was their space hulk, and were not considered to be a major threat by the Imperium. What happened on Montar VII would cause the Imperium to re-evaluate this view.

A tribe usually includes Orks belonging to several of the major clans, and in this the Blood Handz are no exception, including Stormboyz, SnakeBites and the Kult of Speed within their ranks. However, the vast bulk of the boyz are content to call themselves simple "Blud 'andz", and leave it to others to dabble in all this whacky clan stuff. In order to show their allegiance to the tribe the Boyz paint their right fist and forearm blood red, in homage to Bullgarg's heroic deed.

Until he came to Montar VII Bullgarg had been content to lead a nomadic life of piracy and raiding, but his arrival on the planet brought a change. No longer would the simple pleasures of boarding actions and hit and run raids be enough - Bullgarg now wanted to found an Orky empire all of his own, starting on Montar VII! What exactly brought about this change no one was sure. Some said that Gork and Mork spoke to the Warlord as he slept, sending visions of the empire he would found, while others said that he'd started to believe his own stories of his exploits and had got too big for his boots. Whatever the reason, the result was the same - Bullgarg had come to the Montar system, and he wouldn't leave until he'd conquered every planet in it!

The Ork landing did not go unnoticed, and Planetary Lord Kinwa on Montar Prime urgently requested aid to deal with the Orks before they spread mayhem and destruction throughout the system. Although preliminary reports indicated that the Ork tribe was of no great strength, Lord Kinwa simply did not have the forces to deal with them. The total human and abhuman population of the entire Montar system numbered less than 700, and Lord Kinwa's planetary defence force consisted of an under strength platoon with only three heavy weapons and no armoured vehicles!

Fortunately for Lord Kinwa his appeal for help was received and acted upon very quickly, perhaps too quickly as things turned out. The Montar system lies in Segmentum Tempestus close to the planet of Tallarn. Imperial Guard forces in this sector were under the control of Lord Commander Sherdan, who had recently completed a successful campaign against a renegade Eldar pirate fleet. The campaign had been a long and bloody one, a running battle fought in half a dozen different systems and on more than 30 worlds, which had ended with the destruction of the Eldar renegades by the Imperial Navy. Reports of this final battle were coming in when Sherdan received the news of the Ork invasion of Montar VII, and it may be t hat his elation over the victory against the renegade Eldar clouded his judgement about how he would deal with Warlord Bullgarg.

Whatever the reason, Sherdan trusted the preliminary reconnaissance reports and decided to despatch a small force to deal with the Orks as quickly as possible. The troops that he sent were the veterans of the campaign against the Dark Eldar, the 24th Praetorians.

Praetoria is a heavily populated Hive World that lies in a system close to the Imperial naval base at Bakka. The overpopulated Hive-Cities of Praetoria are renowned for their squalor and degradation, and produce some of the toughest gangers on any of the hive worlds in the Imperium. This vast population work as little more than slave-labour in the huge factory complexes of Praetoria, producing the goods that have made the planet (and its rulers) one of the richest in the Imperium, with a huge fleet of merchant craft that trade all over the Segmentum and beyond.

Imperial Guard regiments raised on Praetoria are renowned for their iron discipline and bravery, even in the face of the most overwhelming odds. The planetary lords of Praetoria hold it is only through fearsome training and draconian punishments for the most minor infringements that the hive-toughened inhabitants of their planet can be made to follow orders and do as they are told. Whatever one's views on the training methods used, they seem to work, producing troops that are as ferocious on the attack as they are determined in defence.

The 24th Praetorians had lived up well to the traditions of the fighting reputation of their home world, but had suffered very heavy casualties in so doing. Of the 1500 troops that had left Praetoria only about 300 now remained. More importantly, all of the regiment's senior officers had been killed. The most senior officer left alive, and acting commander of the regiment, was 21 year old Captain Gliene of C Company
To overcome these deficiencies for the campaign against Warlord Bullgarg, the 24th was hastily reinforced with the survivors of the 135th Tallarn Regiment, which had been all but destroyed in the battles against the Eldar renegades. Crucially the commander of the Tallarns, Colonel Al' Ter-Ay, was put in overall command of the reinforced 24th Praetorians, even though the bulk of the troops in the regiment were Praetorians. It was a command structure that was to have disastrous consequences for the regiment.

The 24th was despatched immediately to Montar VII with orders from Lord Sherdan to act quickly to eliminate the Ork threat to the system. Information was still sketchy about the size and strength of the Ork tribe, but the common consensus was that they were fairly few in numbers, and lacking in any 'eavy support' in the form of Gargants or Battle Fortresses. Ork Blood Axe mercenaries, hired as scouts for the Regiment during the campaign, confirmed that although they'd never actually met Warlord Bullgarg, everybody knew he was "a git wiv a big mouth wot'll never amount to anyfing".

When the 24th made planetfall on Montar VII Colonel Al' Ter-Ay lost no time in moving against the Orks. Sub-orbital spy-craft had pinpointed the Ork camp at a location on the Big Toof River. Ork numbers were still unknown, the pall of smog hanging over the settlement making it impossible for the Imperial spy-craft to get any readings on Ork numbers, but worryingly there were signs that the Orks were in the process of constructing Gargants and other large engines of war.

Colonel Al' Ter-Ay determined to act swiftly, as instructed in his orders from Lord Sherdan, but against the advice of Captain Gliene who suggested using his company's Blood Axes to scout the Ork camp. Al' Ter-Ay didn't trust the Blood Axes one bit, especially in an operation against their own kind, and in any case his orders specifically instructed him to act "with extreme prejudice", and this he was determined to do. Less than 24 hours after arriving on the planet the 24th Praetorians moved against the Orks.

Al' Ter-Ay split the regiment into three columns. The first of these (Force Kaz-Ter) consisted of the Tallarn Rough Rider companies and all of the Tallarn Tank Companies, and was commanded by Captain Am' Kaz-Ter of Tallarn. The second column (Force Gliene) consisted of Company C of the 24th Praetorians. The third column (Force Ter-Ay) was commanded Al' Ter-Ay himself and consisted of Company A and all of the regiment's support weapons. \par Al-Ter-Ay's plan was to use Force Kaz-Ter to smash into the Ork camp in a devastating surprise attack. As the Imperial tanks piled into the Orks, Force Gliene (all of which were mounted in fast-moving Chimeras) would sweep round the Ork camp, blocking off the Orks' retreat and cutting down those that tried to escape. By the time that Al' Ter-Ay and the rest of the regiment's slower-moving troops a rrived, all that remained would be to mop up. It was not a bad plan, but it relied on the Orks being too weak to fight back effectively against Force Kaz-Ter. Fatally for the Imperial troops, this was not going to be the case.

As the Imperial troops crested the hills that overlooked the Ork camp, Al' Ter-Ay's plan had already started to fall apart. Force Kaz-Ter had pulled ahead of the rest of the regiment, and started to cross the Big Toof river before Force Gliene could get into position. Captain Am'Kaz' Ter was a brilliant but headstrong commander, who had proved his bravery, if not his common sense, in many battles. Always before when he took a gamble his luck paid off. But as the Leman Russ tanks spearheading his attack crossed the Big Toof River, Kaz-Ter's luck finally ran out...

Suddenly from out of the Ork camp there poured dozens of Snakebite Boarboyz, closely followed by hundreds of Ork warriors and their smaller Gretchin cousins. Super-heavy weapon batteries mounted in the watch towers of the Ork t own burst into action and started blasting away at the surprised Imperial troops. And then, as this torrent of green-skinned destruction smashed Force Kaz-Ter's front, the reeling Guardsmen were hit by an even heavier volume of fire from the rear. As tank s exploded and men died, the Guardsmen stared in horror and disbelief as the Gargant they had believed still under construction lumbered over the horizon, flanked on either side by huge battle fortresses bristling with blazing guns, and supported by Ork Fighta-Bommerz overhead.

Within moments Captain Kaz-Ter was dead, while the panic-stricken survivors of the force that he had led did what they could to escape. Many of the Tallarn Rough Riders attacked to the column survived the initial bombardment, and they now tried to escape back over the Big Toof River and away from the Ork settlement. Unfortunately the steep banks on the far side of the river slowed their escape, and within moments the pursuing Snakebite Boarboyz of the Blood Handz tribe caught up with them. The result was a massacre. As was quickly becoming clear, the Imperial force had walked into an ambush masterminded by Warlord Bullgarg, whose scouts had let him know about the arrival of the Regiment from the moment they had landed on the planet. Bullgarg's ambush was hardly original or even well executed, but when combined with Al'Ter-Ay's fatally flawed plan it lead to a disaster for the 24th Praetorians. It is estimated that within 3 minutes of the trap being sprung Force Kaz-Ter had suffered 85% casualties. But the disaster was not over yet, for above the river valley Force Gliene was also under attack...

From the bluff overlooking the river, Captain Gliene could do little to help his comrades below, for almost at the same moment that Kaz-Ter cam e under attack, his company had been ambushed by a huge force of Ork buggies. The Orks had appeared from nowhere quickly surrounding the Praetorians and forcing them from their Chimeras. Gliene formed the vehicles into a circle, from behind which the grim red-coated soldiers under his command prepared to sell their lives as dearly as possible. All knew that they were doomed, for having dealt with Force Kaz-Ter, the hundreds of Ork Warriors and the huge war engines that accompanied them were turning their attention to "da 'umies dat were left on da hill".

As the Orks swarmed up the hill the Praetorians hit them with volley after volley of tightly controlled lasgun fire, while the multi-lasers of the Chimeras cut bloody swathes through the Ork ranks. Soon the slopes around the Guardsmen were surrounded by hundreds of Ork corpses and blazing buggies. But still the Orks kept on coming, supported by withering fire from the Gargant and Battle fortresses. Yelling their guttural battle-cries and with a complete disregard for their own safety that impressed even the battle-hardened warriors from the Hives of Praetoria, the Ork warriors hurled themselves again and again at the rapidly shrinking circle of Guardsmen, until, finally, there were no humans left alive.

With in an hour of first seeing the Ork camp, every single member of Forces Kaz-Ter and Force Gliene, with the exception of one of Company C's Blood Axe mercenaries, was dead. Colonel Ter-Ay had no option but to pull back in the face of the victorious Ork army . Fortunately for the troops under his command the Orks' pursuit was desultory at best - the Orks were too busy celebrating their victory to be bothered with chasing the few beaten survivors - and they were able to escape more or less unscathed. Colonel Te r-Ay was never to be given an independent command again. He died 10 years later making a lone attack on a Tyranid Dominatrix. It is said his last words were "Let me go to my fate brothers... I must have peace from the ghosts that haunt me."

Warlord Bullgarg went on to found a successful Ork empire in the Montar system, but then disappeared along with most of his followers on board an Ork space hulk. It was assumed that the craft was destroyed in the Warp, but no one can be certain. Who knows, may be one da y Bullgarg and the Blood Handz may return to carve out a new empire.

Lord Sherdan recovered from the setback and went on to reconquer the Montar system from the Orks that had remained after Bullgarg had left. In the forefront of the campaign was the newly raised 24th Praetorian Regiment.


Unofficial Background and Players Armies

Col.Gravis Praetorian Miniatures - http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v628/colgravis/
Commissar Fidel's Praetorian Minatures - http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/patisfidel/
Chosen Man's 13th Praetorian - http://www.40konline.com/mos/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=866&Itemid=766
Chosen Man's Praetorian Miniatures - http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/lsfshadow/Praetorian/
CMON Praetorian Pictures - http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=114741.msg1370510#msg1370510
Praetorian Mega Thread - Please Do Not Resume Posting in this Thread - http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=81840



If you have anything to add - own background materials and miniature/army album's most welcome - let me know and I'll add it to the post.

Compilled by Col.Gravis with help from Chosen Man, wper34, Nantarg, Major Krämer, PaxImperator & Commissar Fidel.

Now for some pictures!
















So as always things are progressing!

tl dr but I saw pix and I like it :-)

An addendum to the Praetorian Post. In addition to COl Gravis' magnificent line of Praetorian-like miniatures, Victoria Lamb has also gone down the rabbithole.

http://www.curiousconstructs.co.uk/
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/

Rank and fire!

leohart wrote:tl dr but I saw pix and I like it :-)

tl:dr :p

Briancj wrote:An addendum to the Praetorian Post. In addition to COl Gravis' magnificent line of Praetorian-like miniatures, Victoria Lamb has also gone down the rabbithole.

http://www.curiousconstructs.co.uk/
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/

Rank and fire!

Briancj, Yes! I'm aware of Col.Gravis site CuriousConstructs and Victoria Lambs excellent conversions and solo mini's, she's actually selling her beautiful Praetorian Army! There are a few other companies that make Pith helmet heads and I could simply cut the heads off Mordian Iron Guard models and replace them with Pith helmets to make Praetorians.

I did some more work on the Cadian / Empire Pistolier Conversion project:


Spent some time getting a count and lining up models, trimming mold lines and lining everything up, most of the time was really spent talking with the rest of the gamers and hobbyists at Fat Ogre Games


Got a few to the ready to glue and prime phase, the arms will be primed separately so that I can reach the entire model. I'm still debating the color scheme, whether I go bright red and white or go with a purple or some other combination.


Set up some of the Fenris IG model conversions to prime with the Army Painter Leather brown to get them closer to a done state. These are a mix of Catachan, Chaos Marrauders, Space Wolf and even some Vampire Counts pieces. I wanted a unique look to an alternate IG force.




And, just cause I know y'all have been wondering how the Mordian Iron Guard are coming along:

I purchased some Army Painter Ultramarine Blue colored Primer to help speed this process along, so I needed to prep and line up the models. To do this I usually use masking tape or painters tape folded over so the sticky side is up, this helps to keep the models in place while I prime them, this way they don't fall over.

You can see that I've got several Commissars, probably too many, so I'll paint them up since they're essentially Mordians that have been Promoted. The powerfist commissar in the front center is the only model to survive from the Praetorian Box set. He is the Praetorian Commissar model.


You might see a Col Stracken and a Marbo in the mix as well as some Ratling Snipers showed up in my boxes of bits




I couldn't find the masking tape so I used duct tape, that stuff is awesome! but don't use it for masking on models.













Here's my selection of Army Painter Color Primers:


And this is what the table in the garage looks like:










The plan currently is for the Army Painter colors to Prime specific models:

Alien Purple: Lizard men and Skinks models
Leather Brown: Fenris IG, Mordian horses and Skaven models, Bretonnian, Empire, Warmachine Mercenary models
Ultramarine Blue: Mordian Iron Guard models
Pure Red: Cadian/Empire IG conversion, Fleet Officer & Master of Ordinance, Warmachine Khador models

I might do the Skinks in the Pure Red, to give the Lizardmen army some separate colors.

So that will be the main part of the color schemes, these should help me build up the base colors on these models fairly quickly. I still have to build some more of the Cadian/Empire models, I have a bunch of Catachan bits and a few other units from other armies that I could put together and prime just to have them built.

Its been hit or miss due to the humidity and the rain as far as getting a good time to prime these, but I'm thinking soon I'll not have much left to build and will need to paint, paint, paint some more!

By then other models will most likely have arrived!

I promise I don't have an addiction, lol and that I will actually play with these models in games!

You are totally addicted! And I am an enabler! I am insanely jealous of all the OOP classic Guard models you have, never, ever, ever trade those Praetorians again! Those casualties are very rare figs nowadays man!

dsteingass wrote:You are totally addicted! And I am an enabler! I am insanely jealous of all the OOP classic Guard models you have, never, ever, ever trade those Praetorians again! Those casualties are very rare figs nowadays man!

I do have a lot of models! Those Praetorians are staying with me!

I just sprayed 200 Mordian Iron Guard in about 20min, pictures will be coming soon!

The Mordians have a lot of detail work, so it will take some time to get them up to tabletop quality and I'm not happy with the color of the ultramarine blue army painter, I thought it would be more like their old Navy Blue

Shades, washes, glazes man- they will make it whatever color you want

dsteingass wrote:Shades, washes, glazes man- they will make it whatever color you want

Oh I know, I just traded one color layering system for another one by using the colored primers. I was just hoping for a shorter timeframe to done than a shift in that timeframe. At least this will make the blues easier to paint, lol.

So this is what I worked on last night and this morning:

Empire Pistolier head to Cadian torso build, I don't have enough heads with feathers to do a full 20 troops, so 3 of them will not have feathers.. right now.. lol.


The plan is to prime them white, then use red on the coat, black on the armor and edge the armor with elf flesh to burnished gold. Then shade the model with Army painter soft tone. So it should look fairly nice when done.



Next step is to assemble the arm sets for each model and then prime them white as well.

I'd also pulled out the Army Painter Leather brown on the Fenris IG concept models as well as the Skaven and some of the Bretonnian Men at Arms, the mounts for the Yeomen and the mounts for the Mordian Iron Guard.

Fenris IG:


Missionary and Astropath:


Skaven Island of Blood models:





Bretonnian Men at Arms:



Bretonnian Yeomen and mounts:


Mordian Iron Guard / Perry Miniatures Rough Rider mounts:



Primed up the 5th edition Lizardmen models with the Pure Red and the Alien Purple from Army Painter

Lizardmen Warriors:






Lizardmen warrior shields primed in pure red


Skinks primed in pure red



Mordian Iron Guard!
I primed these previously using P3 White Primer, but the amount of models staring at me kept from approaching them again and again. I'd been offered the services of a friends air brush, but with my schedule (I'm nocturnal) and him being across town it wasn't looking like it was going to happen. I'd previously used Army Painter Navy Blue to base coat my Warmachine Cygnar models and it came out beautifully. Unfortunately for me, they've discontinued their Navy Blue. The closest color was Ultramarine Blue, so I decided to try that:

























Oh yeah and maybe an orc slipped into the priming session..


This is pretty much what the tables in the garage look like with all the models and a couple of fans blowing to help dry and get the smell of primer out of the room.




As you can see, there is a lot on my painting table.