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If the 1K sons can take the Heldrake and these sets are still available when there released I'll probably get the faith and heresy box.
I'm surprised GW didn't try for a Imperium faction in every set. Baring new kits or repeats the only matchup left is DE vs SW/DA/IG

If they came out with an Iyanden box with Wraithguard, a Wraithlord and a Spiritseer, I'd be all over it.

Although that might be a little thin compared to some of the others.

There's no Codex: Iyanden, so no Iyanden box.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Plus you get a formation that doesn't exist yet elsewhere, so...that's cool.

it says it makes them fight harder. Probably grants them Rage for a turn or something dumb.

Well, there's no possible way that the BA formation can be worse than what CSM's got shafted with...
Hatred with a range restriction AND no possible way to get any of those units into assaults besides walking into the teeth of the enemy's guns? Oh well, at least it saves 1pt/model I guess!?

Maybe the BA formation will give the Predator the Scout rule back, like it had in the 5th ed codex iirc?!

Experiment 626 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Plus you get a formation that doesn't exist yet elsewhere, so...that's cool.

it says it makes them fight harder. Probably grants them Rage for a turn or something dumb.

Well, there's no possible way that the BA formation can be worse than what CSM's got shafted with...
Hatred with a range restriction AND no possible way to get any of those units into assaults besides walking into the teeth of the enemy's guns? Oh well, at least it saves 1pt/model I guess!?

Maybe the BA formation will give the Predator the Scout rule back, like it had in the 5th ed codex iirc?!

Do you ever stop?

DA, GK, Harlies will probably get one. KDK I'm not sure about, but possibly.

Daemons have Fantasy get started boxes, but no 40k rules with them. At least, Khorne and Nurgle have them.

Sisters and Inquisition... probably not.

Dunno about Cult Mechanicus. Their HQ is in the Skitarii box, who knows what'll happen there.

Requizen wrote:
DA, GK, Harlies will probably get one. KDK I'm not sure about, but possibly.

Daemons have Fantasy get started boxes, but no 40k rules with them. At least, Khorne and Nurgle have them.

Sisters and Inquisition... probably not.

Dunno about Cult Mechanicus. Their HQ is in the Skitarii box, who knows what'll happen there.

I wouldn't be surprised to see maybe a slew for GK's, DA's & Tzeentch Daemons come the fall/closer to fall since we still have WZ: Fenris part 2, and all three feature pretty heavily.

I'd rather honestly not see a Khornekin one, unless it's say 'Letters + Raptors/Possessed + Hellbrute/Fiend.
Last thing we need is either another crappy Marines + Lord set, or god forbid, Berserkers rearing their fugly '99 hamburger fists of doom in a beginner box!

Has anyone got any info as to the rules the Dark Eldar Start collection box is going to have? If so what are your opinions on it?



Blatant attempt to get this away from others complaining about chaos getting shafted unlike the "normal marines"

Spiritfox22 wrote:
Has anyone got any info as to the rules the Dark Eldar Start collection box is going to have? If so what are your opinions on it?



Blatant attempt to get this away from others complaining about chaos getting shafted unlike the "normal marines"

Considering the box doesn't even go up for pre-order until tomorrow, we'll probably have to wait until sometime next week before we get proper photos of the Eldar/Dark Eldar formations.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I really like the box art for the flyer bundles oddly enough. Usually don't like the "models on cover" look, but these look kinda fun with the lasers and explosions.

It's a nice "back to the roots" sort of thing.

 BrookM wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I really like the box art for the flyer bundles oddly enough. Usually don't like the "models on cover" look, but these look kinda fun with the lasers and explosions.

It's a nice "back to the roots" sort of thing.

It's what they did back around 4th edition right? I seem to remember the Tyranid Warrior's Deathspitter blowing out a wave of gunk.

So why are the Necrons fighting the Tau and why are the Eldar fighting Orks? I know that there is nothing un-fluffy about either of those matchups, but wouldn't I make more sense to have Eldar v. Necrons and Tau v. Orks?

 EnTyme wrote:
So why are the Necrons fighting the Tau and why are the Eldar fighting Orks? I know that there is nothing un-fluffy about either of those matchups, but wouldn't I make more sense to have Eldar v. Necrons and Tau v. Orks?

The cynical part of me wants to sat sales.

Necron and eldar flyers are generally good. Tau and Ork are more “meh” from what I hear. Mixing the good and the bad will help sales of all the boxes, to prevent some just rotting on the shelf.

 EnTyme wrote:
So why are the Necrons fighting the Tau and why are the Eldar fighting Orks? I know that there is nothing un-fluffy about either of those matchups, but wouldn't I make more sense to have Eldar v. Necrons and Tau v. Orks?

Old vs New, Elegance vs Brute Force

 Nevelon wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
So why are the Necrons fighting the Tau and why are the Eldar fighting Orks? I know that there is nothing un-fluffy about either of those matchups, but wouldn't I make more sense to have Eldar v. Necrons and Tau v. Orks?

The cynical part of me wants to sat sales.

Necron and eldar flyers are generally good. Tau and Ork are more “meh” from what I hear. Mixing the good and the bad will help sales of all the boxes, to prevent some just rotting on the shelf.

You're probably right, but can you imagine how many Necrons v. Eldar kits they would sell? I'd probably have to buy at least two of them.

Requizen wrote:
DA, GK, Harlies will probably get one. KDK I'm not sure about, but possibly.

Daemons have Fantasy get started boxes, but no 40k rules with them. At least, Khorne and Nurgle have them.

Sisters and Inquisition... probably not.

Dunno about Cult Mechanicus. Their HQ is in the Skitarii box, who knows what'll happen there.

Oooh. I could possibly go for a Harlies one.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I really like the box art for the flyer bundles oddly enough. Usually don't like the "models on cover" look, but these look kinda fun with the lasers and explosions.

It's a nice "back to the roots" sort of thing.

It's what they did back around 4th edition right? I seem to remember the Tyranid Warrior's Deathspitter blowing out a wave of gunk.

There was a long period when all of GW's boxed sets would come with an amazing piece of cover art showing off the model(s) contained within. While the current boutique look of the boxed sets shows you what's inside, it doesn't really engage the imagination as much as those action packed pieces of art.

This clearly shows you that gak is going down between those two flyers or those two Knights.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Plus you get a formation that doesn't exist yet elsewhere, so...that's cool.

it says it makes them fight harder. Probably grants them Rage for a turn or something dumb.

Well, there's no possible way that the BA formation can be worse than what CSM's got shafted with...
Hatred with a range restriction AND no possible way to get any of those units into assaults besides walking into the teeth of the enemy's guns? Oh well, at least it saves 1pt/model I guess!?

Maybe the BA formation will give the Predator the Scout rule back, like it had in the 5th ed codex iirc?!

Do you ever stop?

We'll see. I don't have high hopes on either of those things.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Anyone know if these will let you build both the variants?

They're always a standard sprue set, so if the standard sprues for a Baal Predator includes other variants, than yes. If variants have an add-on sprue, then unlikely. (Also applies for the flyer sets)

If only it was Orks vs Space Marines... I don't place Chaos Space Marines anymore because of how bad they are so I have no need for a Heldrake and I don't play Eldar.

Ah well. If the minigame within is any good and replayable enough I might buy one of the 2 sets still.

You might be able to split a set?

No one around here plays Eldar (thank god) and the 2 CSM players that have kept at it already have enough Heldrakes. :(

I suppose I could and sell the other flyer on Ebay though if it would still give me enough savings.

The new game looks cool and more start collecting sets are always nice but that is 6 weeks now without any new miniatures (boxes don't count). The result of that top down review that rowntree said he would do seems to be thinking of new ways to sell existing miniatures. That is a good idea but I want to see something completely new!

Chikout wrote:
that is 6 weeks now without any new miniatures (boxes don't count).

Oh sweet summer child...

Its terrible how much they slowed down the release this year. Especially considering that there is so much of the range that needs to be either redone or converted into plastic.

I wonder what the motivation behind the slowdown with new sculpts is. It's generally accepted that new models are usually in the pipeline for some time before they get released, so there must be models waiting to be released.

So what gives? Clearing out older stock first? We've seen a few things go out of stock and not be replaced.

there have been a bunch of boardgames with multiple new sprues in,

they've got to be produced at some point, and if the factory is spitting them out, they're not spitting out something else, so I suspect the lull is a hangover from the Silver Tower which they clearly produced loads of

Orlando is correct, of course. There's been tons of new models if you care to count the boardgames - and especially if you consider them to be equal part boardgame and equal part (or more, as many do) miniature bundle delivery system.

I'm fine with a less frenzied release schedule, quite frankly.

 Azazelx wrote:
Orlando is correct, of course. There's been tons of new models if you care to count the boardgames - and especially if you consider them to be equal part boardgame and equal part (or more, as many do) miniature bundle delivery system.

I'm fine with a less frenzied release schedule, quite frankly.

I've no problem with it at all, in fact I think a steadier schedule is likely better. I was just curious as to what the reasoning could be. You're both right of course, there was a lot of new stuff in Warhammer Quest, Deathwatch, and Calth.

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Requizen wrote:
DA, GK, Harlies will probably get one. KDK I'm not sure about, but possibly.

Daemons have Fantasy get started boxes, but no 40k rules with them. At least, Khorne and Nurgle have them.

Sisters and Inquisition... probably not.

Dunno about Cult Mechanicus. Their HQ is in the Skitarii box, who knows what'll happen there.

Oooh. I could possibly go for a Harlies one.

The best part of a harlie starter would be if they got a small formation to go with it so can have them as allies without fielding minimum 3 troupe squads. I got some harlies a while ago, but has no meaningful way to field them (must go unbound) because the base formations are to cumbersome, and the really small one is basicly just the old harlie unit from eldar codex but dont even fit in a transport
Id like to see 2 bikes, a transport and a troupe + formation for that, but expect them to throw in a blister model as per usual.
Hm, actually, a formation without the psycher would suck, so ad that to my wishlist. Thanks.