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Drax and Ronin back side of cards confirms to be the same as the front.
   
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Did anyone mention Ebony Maw’s Counter Spell card yet? Spend three to cancel someone else’s super power. Their cost is still paid and the super power counts as used for the turn, but it has no effect.

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Ouch!

Ebony Maw is going to really draw fire. That’s why you bring Black Dwarf.

   
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I remembered where I’d seen the card.


 
   
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I quite like how Black Order has enough unique affiliation tactics to make running the 4 without Thanos potentially worthwile.
   
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That counter spell on maw is crazy.i kinda want to play him just for the card alone and not his model. I hope they make Dr. Strange this well.
   
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I definitely helps define his 5 threat cost. Well designed counterspell. Very limited, but completely back breaking when played at the right time.
   
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Plus because you need to hold on to 2 power for Mind Over Matter, realistically you need 5 power on him to even bluff your opponent, which is no mean feat unless he just floats around and does nothing in his activation.

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https://www.atomicmassgames.com/cp10?fbclid=IwAR3VnP-KFwniaE8FgOIoCFsw8DEpT01UE1RXotmFAxqXdOfLAa1hT7In1RI

Yes they were already official, but now they're officially official!

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So if i wanted to play this game, do i need all models cause all models can be used all together?

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So if i wanted to play this game, do i need all models cause all models can be used all together?


You bring a roster of 10 models and then build you 4-5 man team from the models you bring. You can use anyone but the rewards for playing to an affiliation (more than half of your team, AKA generally 3) are significant enough that you generally want to stick to affiliated models and bring essentially one outside model at most. I think sticking to one or two affiliations completely doable. Definitely no need for everything.
   
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The main thing is that various boxes have team tactic cards (your roster includes 8 and of those you select five at the beginning of a game) and scenarios. So that may be a reason for completionists to get boxes they dont otherwise want. But unlike most games, I've managed to ignore the completioinist urge for this one, and have found just getting characters I want is fine for a variety of casual games.
   
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You only 'need' to do that if you 'want' to do that?

Though I guess what you're asking is "Do I need to do this in order to win/be really competitive?"

Maybe?


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Longstrider wrote:
The main thing is that various boxes have team tactic cards (your roster includes 8 and of those you select five at the beginning of a game) and scenarios. So that may be a reason for completionists to get boxes they dont otherwise want.


I do believe there's an online resource that can help in regards to this...

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You need at least ten models to have a roster, in order to play the game as intended. But the core box already comes with ten.

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Not necessarily competitive, more of "to get the best experiance" kinda thing

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I think the issue is, it’s actually possible to get everything with MCP (as opposed to something like 40k).

   
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It's worth noting that most of the Team Tactics cards require the character their packaged with to use. There's some good generic cards that have been released, but you only bring 5 to a game and 3 of the best are in the core set (Brace for Impact, Drop Off, Patch Up... Mission Objective is also quite good as a 4th) so I find myself mostly sticking to that and adding the character/affiliation specific cards in the last slots.

I think the objectives are probably the thing that's more problematic, as they're always packaged with new affiliation leaders and do add quite a bit of variety to the game, both by changing the flow of the game and by limiting the ability to get stuck on a single team by keeping the points cap dynamic. Competitively you're supposed to bring a limited set of them and steer the game towards preferable scenarios, but I'm personally a fan of full random. It's a thing that's pretty easy to get from outside sources though, including your opponent. Pretty easy to play around.


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 Manchu wrote:
I think the issue is, it’s actually possible to get everything with MCP (as opposed to something like 40k).


For now. That's eventually going to be a lot less doable. I personally HAVE everything, but mostly because I was playing several games with everything before a new model release. As we've been getting new players I've been seeing more restraint and specialization. One guy that just wants to play Web Warriors once its out, a dedicated Asgardian, etc.

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Not a huge fan of these (and not alone judging by FB comments, although calling out the small version for not being to scale is flat out slowed) but not a huge fan of the character either, so this is probably on the skip list with the Guardians.
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Well, I suppose tiny Wasp could have been a bit...tinier?

Other than that, looks OK to me.
   
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I agree, I think it’s a pretty cool thing to do, packing them with smaller versions.

   
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There's a transform condition too, so they're not just alternative models but will have different rules and be able to change size mid game.

I've seen some potato shots of Antman and I think he looks better, but they're not tickling my buy reflex just now.

I'm not above buying a mini I'm not mad about if they're fun in the game though, so there's hope.

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TBH that’s how I feel about the entire line!

   
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Plus there's a resin printer very likely in my near future, so there's always the possibility of alt sculpts...

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Tiny version definitely isn’t tiny enough. I’d be super tempted to use an empty base for the tiny version myself.

 
   
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 Azreal13 wrote:
Not a huge fan of these (and not alone judging by FB comments, although calling out the small version for not being to scale is flat out slowed) but not a huge fan of the character either, so this is probably on the skip list with the Guardians.


its funny how the wing size did scale with the model but the wing details didn't, infact they seem to be increased in size

 
   
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I folded and bought the core set and venom.....
I might buy all the heros just to play with friends...

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There's also a multiplayer version where two players take a team each and a third plays Ultron, but a mega ultimate end game boss villain version that can be played solely with the models in the starter, and a Hulk version as well that are both freely available to download. Worth it if you're going to provide all the kit.


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In other news, a non potato pic of Antman has emerged.

Prefer this to Wasp.
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I'm probably going to base the tiny ones with a few items on them like a penny, an ant mini, lego, etc and make the bases look like its just zoomed in on them. Should convey the size difference.
   
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 Azreal13 wrote:
There's also a multiplayer version where two players take a team each and a third plays Ultron, but a mega ultimate end game boss villain version that can be played solely with the models in the starter, and a Hulk version as well that are both freely available to download. Worth it if you're going to provide all the kit.



Plus Thanos is coming as the first retail version of the experience. I quite like the encounters they've released so far, though they don't exactly make as good of use of the variety of character abilities that you see from the normal scenarios. Definitely a fun time though and easy enough to play 1v1 if you don't have a third player.

AMG also released an AI flowsheet for Ultron that allows the encounter to be played co-op or single player. It works quite well, though I find the Ultron encounter doesn't reward attacking him enough to make it play significantly differently with different characters. Not really a problem under normal circumstances, but as my primary way to play with my toys right now it doesn't quite scratch the itch after multiple playthroughs.


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 Azreal13 wrote:
Not a huge fan of these (and not alone judging by FB comments, although calling out the small version for not being to scale is flat out slowed) but not a huge fan of the character either, so this is probably on the skip list with the Guardians.


its funny how the wing size did scale with the model but the wing details didn't, infact they seem to be increased in size


It looks like that model made a lot of sacrifices to be a two piece deal that fit somewhere on the sprue. The tiny version wings are definitely bad assuming that texture isn't painted on. If its sculpted, I think filling it in with green stuff will remove a lot of what makes that sculpt look so poor compared to the tiny Ant-Man. Definitely agree that a penny or something would do a good job of making them even tinier.

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