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Not quite sure if it's the same thing Cam is getting at with the bee hive vents. But Google roof ventilation and look through the images for inspiration. Something like a box vent about half the height of a model could work well.

I'll check it out, thanks

Today I'm organizing the piss out of both my hobby room and game room. Once I get things sort of neatly stacked (never?) I'll do some photos of both. Bit ashamed of the amount of models lol.

Still wanna finish the building today but I've got more 'move crap around' energy than I do creative potential.


I got a 4x8' sheet of higher end plywood at the store yesterday. Heavy sucker. I've got that in place on my defunct air hockey table and it's reasonably sturdy. No leaning. But reasonably sturdy for gaming. Not sure what I'll do with the 2x4' sections of MDF. Possibly little tables for my Daughter, or maybe I'll make a gaming/shelf out of them for downstairs.

Trying to get all of my models that need work/storage downstairs, and all of the stuff that's ready for gaming-- finished scenery, models, rulers, dice, and so on-- out in the game room. Need to see if I should make any more shelves out there or if I just need a tad bit more organization.

OK here something like this...

Ahh i see what you mean, and why its called that. Cool.

Lol I got over 10k posts and it says near golden deamon caliber. Bwahahahahahahaha giggle.

So here's some more tagging. Was a long day today and hot so I just crapped out a little work for the sake of it. It's sloppier and has less style, not as smooth. Of course it's all brush work which was maybe the mistake. But even the strokes are too fat and sloppy, just tired tonight. It'll do, maybe that guy isn't as good at tagging.

I think this side is probably good, not much else would fit without a ladder.

I kind of like the night sabers side left alone, the front is fine... The back wall could maybe use some tagging though it may be a squeeze to fit it in.

Still need rooftop Gubbins and a dumpster if I can. Oh, dumpster is why the back is fine. If I make one.

I think the posters and graffiti looks great. I wouldn't be overly concerned with being super neat, not every graffiti artist is as good as the previous and few have respect not to overlap someone else's work either.

Thanks

I'm not too broken up about the state of the second graffiti, I'll just have to do a bunch more as I go on and I'll get better through practice.

Bought some pill sorters for dumpsters but they're kind of small. May have to scratch build something entirely though I'm bad at shapes. Still wanna make some rooftop stuff too. But I've pretty much got today to get finished and a mounting pile of honey do's and so on (got rained out, but it doesn't take long before the wife and kids decide what to do with my newfound time ).

The back of the Taco Mars signs could be filled with graffiti too, again time may be an issue here.

The two dwarfs and Mashaaf are done having a long soak, I need to rinse them off and prime them some time. I think I mentioned having the foam in hand for their Diorama so that'll happen eventually too. Wanna get this building done today though.


Ooooh yeah, I just ordered sizes 2, 1, and 3/0 of the Windsor and Newton Series 7 brushes. I've gotten fed up with cheapos and am eagerly awaiting having the good stuff back in hand. The 1 and 3/0 should be here soon, it's Prime so probably friday/saturday. The #2 is coming from somewhere else that doesn't offer prime shipping (though its the lowest price I've seen for a #2) and their free shipping boasts October 6-20 as a delivery date. As long as it's a legitimate series 7 #2, I'll be happy when it eventually shows up. That's the one I really needed, though I'm curious to try the 1 and 3/0. I have a 0 which has pretty much quit being consistent, which I used for all but the ultrasupermicrofine details, and the 2 was for everything else. My thinking is the 1 will help relieve some strain from the 2's job of 'doing everything else'. The 3/0 is almost the smallest brush they make, super freaking tiny, so that'll take over for the 0.
And it's trying to send the stuff to the old address... At least this finally got me to clear out the old defunct addresses from Amazon...


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Oh well got that sorted out. Got some other stuff in the works too:


I've also discovered that I'm apparently not allergic to the Warmachine faction Retribution of something or another.

I still don't like the non-hero human sculpts very much, the gunners/halberd/sword guys... but many of the characters are pretty reasonably cool and the war jack things for that faction don't make me retch. Something about the smooth curvature of them... They look dangerous and have almost the same profile as the other warjack things but... something about the eldar-like gems I think I'm seeing and the distinct lack of smokestacks makes me more interested in them

Not saying you'll be seeing me making a warmachine army any time... though... technically if I ever wanted to play a reasonably popular tabletop within driving distance... it would probably be WH.

Holy Moley, over 10k posts, and you joined only two months before me. I salute you sir.

Words of warning about the new brushes-- in case you don't already know, which you probably do. Get some of this for them http://www.amazon.com/General-Pencil-Company-Masters-Preserver/dp/B0009RRT9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441830584&sr=8-1&keywords=Masters+brush+cleaner and never use metallic paints with them. The metallics will destroy the bristles.

Just paint more graffiti over the stuff you aren't so happy with.

Never use metallics... Even the standard old gw/Vallejo type? Hells bells that could be part of the problem then.

I've been using the masters since I started painting almost. I've even got the W&K 'melts paint of the handle of the brush' cleaner stuff too.

Damn no metallics huh? Gotta remember that.

So, my penchant for using metalkic paint is what's killing my brushes? But I don't want to have to do NMM.

Grim, your building is looking really good. I think those pill containers will still work for dumpsters. Not every dumpster needs to be some huge thing you can fit a car into. I'm digging your little electronic bits there as well. They make nice looking scifi doodads.

Wait, metallics kill brushes? Never heard that before!

I'm gonna have to look into this for reals.

10k posts came up really fast, I guess I'm a chatty Cathy

@Barzam thanks. I think the innards of a computer have a *lot* to offer a scifi gaming table. There's a guy somewhere hereabouts, I think, that's done an entire table out of computer components. His stuff is way cooler, but I'm happy getting by.

Got a 005 micron pen so I can write some bathroom stall style call X for a good time crap behind the Taco Mars signs. Nice to have around too for other stuff. Also nabbed a backup 1 inch punch (still think that sounds like a martial arts move ) in case my primary ever goes out (this one also looks like it may have better luck muscling through that card stuff i've been using).

Have fun with the W&N brushes. I got mine a few months back and adore them. Layers with them go on to smooth and can do the finest detail even with the 2. Don't stress too much about using metallics with them. Yeah it's not good for the bristles but ig you only use the tip and never let it get near the ferrule you're fine and clean with masters more after metallics than usual. Keeps them beautifully

I've had my pair for awhile. I let them both down sooner than I should have but I plan to be more careful with this new set.

So I think I've found some things out about Warmachine and Retribution of Scyrrah (or whatever it is) in particular. I think I know which models I like and vaguely how to piece them together sort of. I think list building is pretty important but I'll crutch on the community here to help me along there as I move forward mostly painting.

All in theory. I just used my Amazon points on paint brushes and I'm not racking up another Miniature Market order so soon. But they may worm their way onto the x-mas list.

Another interesting thing... Warmachine is actually at a good discount on Amazon. Something very similar to what you find on Miniature Market, although a bit more sporadic. But as I gain some points, I may sneak in some Warmachine buys. Especially since I'd rather buy something at a discount with my points than overpay for Infinity, even if the points are *free*.

Never heard it either. It's possible of course, but I'll just replace brushes over not using metallic paints. I can however recommend The Masters Brush Cleaner. It's good stuff.

Aw Grim, you're going down that same slippery slope I did. Once you get one faction, then you'll decide to check out another, and soon you'll own 3/4 of the range and hardly any of what you originally intended to get. First it's elves, then you'll be looking at Menoth and suddenly you'll have full Khador and Skorne armies.

Yeah, Masters is ftw for sure.

@Barzam it's possible. I'm not so sure though, I don't really like the aesthetic of most of the armies. I dunno if I had a sudden change of heart about the Retribution or if I just never saw any of them before. I don't like 'jacks in general though, and most of the infantry for most of the factions are meh. At least from what I remember. Cryx might be ok, but I have such a backlog of fantasy undead I don't need more robot/undead to go with them

If I get a chance I'll try to add to my building a bit tonight, but if not then it's pretty well done already. Mashaaf and the dwarfs are ready, need to get started on those soon.

Well, the elves are definitely one of the coolest looking factions in the game. I love their infantry designs. It's helped by the fact that they have the most advanced tech in the game.

If you don't like the Jacks, check out Hordes.

Nope. I don't like most of the beasts either

Those things skorne has, the elephant/whatevers, nooope.

I'm not as familiar with some of the rest of them. Are there redneck crocodile people? Cause no.

Nature army? Nah.

I'm still somewhat surprised I like Retribution. I do though, fancy stuff.

Besides.

WTF Barzam, why are you trying to get me to buy MORE armies than I already have? Et tu Barzam?

I agree about most of the WM/H stuff, Grim. There are a handful of character minis I'd absolutely love to paint, but the Warjacks just look so toyish and top heavy to me, not threatening or dangerous in the slightest. That could just be the painting on some, but in general 70%-ish of the range I just don't get.

Every so often I take a look through the PP gallery pages, find a couple of great minis, but before that thought process can go any further I'm hit in the face with silly-looking uber-swords, overdone musculature and shoulder pads that would make Calgar cry!


But if you've found a faction you can get on with then go for it! It wasn't until I found the Military Orders that I gave Infinity a second look, and now they're some of my favourite minis ever, so opinions can certainly do 180s rather quick once you find the right way in.

Luckily the style of warmachine is not my favorite or I would have switched long ago.

Grim if you do decide to start warmachine they have a dinged copy of Grind at miniaturemarket for $35. That's a bunch of warjacks. It keeps taunting me every time I go to look.

Ahh. I think I saw it that one time I went up there. No temptation there at all for me. I only like the Retribution Myrmidons (their version of warjacks), and even then only some.


This guy is cool.


This guy too, even if he has ginormous shoulder pads. I played WoW for several years, I'm used to it


Mage hunters really make it for me in terms of Retribution infantry.


Similar but with crossbows and different swords I think.


Some single characters are really neat, Leaning towards this guy for the leader if I ever pull the trigger.


Seems like the kind of lists I'm looking into have at least 1-2 of these guys, they're ok.



Their wizard unit is kind of interesting. It's a caster, he shoots magical missiles, but he can also punch people in the face. hard.

There are some basic infantry that I don't really care for, and some of the solos I don't love.


This guy though, he's pretty cool. There's a unit of grunts like him but apparently it's not very good in the game, though the single hero version is fine.


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It's entirely possible this train of thought will get swept under the rug the same as so many 40k army ideas I had in the past. One thing that's going for it though, is that this stuff is on Amazon at a reasonable discount (comparable to MM though not as consistent) so I may end up getting a few of them here and there instead of using my points to overpay for almost anything else.

Whaaat? No, I would never try to talk someone into buying more minis. No sir. You make it sound like I'm some kind of enabler or something. Why, just ask my brother! I certainly didn't talk him into buying all of those Rackham models. Or those Warzone figures he's been fiddling with. Nope, I haven't done a thing.


Oh yeah, you should totally buy some Morats, too.

As they say, I think...somewhere...surely... feth your couch sir! No morats. Noooooo!

I consider it a tragedy that I may never own a raicho... But it is for the greater good!

That post of pics pretty much sums up how I see WM. Those mage hunters are fething awesome, the dude with the sword is neat and I kind of like the magic power fist guy, but I just can't get behind the Warjacks or the massive-shoulder-tiny-head horse dude! I think that an all-infantry version of the game would appeal to me a lot more...

Morats, on the other hand, are just epic across the board!

I agree with you guys. I really would like to PLAY Warmachine but I don't want to collect any of the minis because the aesthetic is completely lost on me... Which makes playing kind of hard.

Yup, Warmachine is kinda pants looking IMO. Regardless of rule set. If the models don't get my attention then it's not worth my time.

The thing that gets me is I like the artist that owns warmachine (Matt something) work on other things, but these models are just everything that bothers me about GW proportions blown up even further. He did excellent art for Legend of the five rings and Magic the gathering, but the warjacks are rediculous to me.

I tend to agree with you guys. Except for Retribution, I really don't like any of the 'jacks (maybe a couple of the Cryx dudes would be ok). I do like Retribution though. The Myrmidons remind me a lot of some of the Blood Elf constructs from WoW, along the same lines that Warmachine shoulder aesthetics resemble WoW. It's not my favorite look... but when you've logged as many hours at WoW as I have... it's a comfortable groove to fall back into. That the mage hunter dudes are as cool as they are... Also the aesthetic of the other armies doesn't bother me as much if they're on the opposite side of the table from me and I get to scrap/mulch/pulverize them

Honestly, I could almost step back from even more of the range and do a Garrth theme list.

While not my favorite Retribution warcaster aesthetically, Garryth isn't terrible:

Big shoulders, semi awkward pose, questionable dagger..guns? His theme list lets you take a gaggle of the mage hunters and their character assassins, while still taking most of the myrmidons (just none of the character variants other than Moros).

I think I still like the idea of Thyron better. Or if I could get myself to knock out upwards of 5+ of those griffons, I would have a list for which this guy



would be useful. And between the eyepatch, shotgunblade, bitchin steed, and falcon.... epic Vyros just oozes badassery.

All of this talk about warmachine...pfft.

We'll see. The reasonable prices at amazon are the most likely reason I'd pick some up. I could just as easily start picking off the better deals on Imperial Assault boosters too. I may not pokemon the set but Han, Chewie, and certain others would be swell.

Anyway, here's a preview of the completed Taco Mars. May work on some more stuff but I'd really like to get my game and hobby rooms worked out tomorrow... And I need to start my dwarf diorama.