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So, we all know the Void Dragon is hinted to be on Mars. It would be quite a coincidence for the Void Dragon to not be the Omnissiah, right? My opinion is that for GW to come out with more fluff for the Necrons, they're going to need to work around this. What are your ideas for GW to solve this? Whats the best loophole you can think of?

From Mechanicum (and I may be misremembering), it's stated/implied that:

How they do this? Have the Void Dragon be the Omnissiah, wake up, and phase out to a different planet and start raising up Tombworlds if they didn't want him to be on mars

Interesting. Still don't know how GW is going to add more fluff without screwing up the Adeptus Mechanicus...

this is why the Timeline won't ever advance.

were are stuck at M40999

yeah, the Necrons awakening fully (and maybe freeing the Void Dragon?) cant happen cos they would annihilate everyone.
theres a couple of other uber-bad guys lying around (although forsome reason i cant remember them right now ) which stagnate the timeline too.
Although, judging by the trend in recent fluff (Ward) im quite happy for it to stay as it is tbh

Heresy! I'll have you made into a servitor!

the void dragon cant escape because of a psychic feild or something that was put up to keep him in. Plus all his necrodermis shells have been destroyed so really he can't take form ever again, only have influence over a select few.

Plus the deciver is smart enough to know if he gets loose nothing can control him, thats why the only two major C'Tan are the deciver and his pawn the night bringer.

The Void Dragon on Mars, isn't quite asleep and enters the consciousness of mankind in various ways pushing them down certain paths by way of technological hints spuring advancements. This has been going on since mankind first set foot on Mars.

It is also probably why the Mechanicus are becoming much more mechanical in nature and why they seek union with machines. This is something only the most senior Mechanicus suspect. Perhaps they will, one day, resemble the Necrons if left unchecked.

The Emperor may have used the Void Dragon to stimulate mankinds technological advancement and so it's no suprise that Mars is and always has been the seat of technical expertise.

I know I read this stuff somewhere.

I once saw an interesting argument that the Omnissiah is actually Vaul, though I can't recall the specifics. It has a nicer sound to it than "the magical space vampire that went into hibernation millions of years prior and rules over the remnants of a Tau-like (short-lived blanks) race that literally emoed themselves into terminators was imprisoned a few thousand years ago for some reason", though sadly it's almost certain to be the Void Dragon.

If they change the story so that a god, said to have been killed by Slaanesh many thousands of years ago, was somehow magically saved from destruction by being on mars and that the Void Dragon, all throughout the Necron codex stated to be on mars, is actually somewhere else entirely, then I will feel very upset at them for such tomfoolery

It's also just the Dragon. Void was added by the internet.

Void Dragon sounds cooler

thermatic wrote:the void dragon cant escape because of a psychic feild or something that was put up to keep him in. Plus all his necrodermis shells have been destroyed so really he can't take form ever again, only have influence over a select few.

The C'tan have near infinite number of shells to enbody, i'm sure.

thermatic wrote:Plus the deciver is smart enough to know if he gets loose nothing can control him, thats why the only two major C'Tan are the deciver and his pawn the night bringer.

In the Deceiver's entry in the Cron codex, it states he desires to unite all of the remaining C'tan, for only united can they feast on all life in the current universe.

IMO, The Deceiver has already tried to awake the Void Dragon, this was the Necron ship landings on Mars, which resulted in failure of course due to the fragile task force.

If they advance the fluff, GW will either screw up the importance of the Void Dragon, or destroy the Imperium as we all know it. The latter, will never happen, so to be safe, I hope they just leave it, and do something to slightly advance the plot, like the Void Dragon finds a way to influence his personal Necrons from his stasis and prepares for his next ascension. That way we can at least have him directly included in the new fluff.

samrtk wrote:

thermatic wrote:If they advance the fluff, GW will either screw up the importance of the Void Dragon, or destroy the Imperium as we all know it. The latter, will never happen, so to be safe, I hope they just leave it, and do something to slightly advance the plot, like the Void Dragon finds a way to influence his personal Necrons from his stasis and prepares for his next ascension. That way we can at least have him directly included in the new fluff.

I like this idea. I've always been a fan of Necrons, and I would love to see the storyline of the Dragon advance (or at least the Outsider).

However, here's probably the more probable path of the Void Dragon fluff. Either:

A) Games Workshop drops the fluff entirely because they will think it's too much work for a xenos army. Instead, they'll just write a new codex for Space Marines or Imperial Guard.

B) They leave the fluff where it is at because they get too scared or lazy to add to it (or they do try, everybody gets ticked off and hates it THEN Games Workshop gives up on it). Plus, they cannot really advance the Void Dragon fluff in the current year because then an armaggeddon scenario will take place and we all know that just can't happen (sadface....)

or C) Ward gets a hold of the fluff. Then we will have Chaos Necrons, C'Tan popping up all over the place like they were Necron Warriors waking up, friendly Scarabs made into pets for Orks to replace Grots, and Blood Angels becoming closer friends with the Necrons to the point that they become Necrons themselves.

Gentlemen, the Void Dragon as we know it will be no more once the new Necron codex comes out. He will either be gone, dead, or completely ed up.

And just to let you all know....... I'm not being serious about this. Please do not come after me, set me on fire, or shoot me with gauss flayers. I've already been shot by one. It's not a pleasany feeling. It kinda hurts...

If you guys read Mechanicumit explains how the Dragon was traped on mars and how his shells were all but destroyed and traped on mars, It gives major fluff on him and mars its self.

Plus if you look at almost every major conflict in the 40k universe the deceiver is behind it and if you think about it he would only use other C'tan that could be controlled and not go on a killing spree, That is how come you dont see the deciver trying to save the outsider, void dragon or the numerious other C'tan that exist because they cant be controlled by the deceiver.

InquisitorRoeth wrote:C) Ward gets a hold of the fluff. Then we will have Chaos Necrons, C'Tan popping up all over the place like they were Necron Warriors waking up, friendly Scarabs made into pets for Orks to replace Grots, and Blood Angels becoming closer friends with the Necrons to the point that they become Necrons themselves.

Gentlemen, the Void Dragon as we know it will be no more once the new Necron codex comes out. He will either be gone, dead, or completely ed up.

That's what I'm most worried about, Ward's fluff isn't bad, but its not good either.

thermatic wrote:If you guys read Mechanicumit explains how the Dragon was traped on mars and how his shells were all but destroyed and traped on mars, It gives major fluff on him and mars its self.

I would buy the book now, if I didn't have enough books to get around to reading already. I'll have to pick it up later in the year.

thermatic wrote:Plus if you look at almost every major conflict in the 40k universe the deceiver is behind it and if you think about it he would only use other C'tan that could be controlled and not go on a killing spree, That is how come you dont see the deciver trying to save the outsider, void dragon or the numerious other C'tan that exist because they cant be controlled by the deceiver.

Directly from the Necron Codex's Deceiver entry:

"The Deceiver has spent millenia abroad in the galaxy gathering followers and intefering and attempts to disturb its brethren. The messenger has living followers once more among the ranks of the Adeptus Mechanicus, and with them has gathered many pariahs to become its new slaves. It has even succeeded in locating the potent Talismen of Vaul, the great weapons forged by the Eldar before the Fall to destroy the C'tan if they rose again.

Through subtle machinations, the Deceiver has destroyed most of these awesome devices and placed the remainder beyond the reach of the Farseers for all time. The war that was provoked to achieve this ravaged an entire sector in a fashion unseen since the War in Heaven. That such limitless suffering has been caused is as nothing to the Deceiver; it would have destroyed the Gothic sector a thousand times over to achieve its goals. In recent times the Deceiver has reluctantly concluded that it needs the other star-gods if they are to reassert their rule once more. The legacy of the Old Ones is gnawing at the very fabric of reality, and their old slave races need to be brought to heel."

I think the deceiver may be able to work alongside the Nightbringer and the Void Dragon (or use them as lapdogs) but I'm pretty sure the outsider is a bit too pissed at him, but I definitely want to see the Outsider brought into the game (no offense to Void Dragon fans). I mean, who doesn't like a bit of insanity?

Grey Templar wrote:this is why the Timeline won't ever advance.

were are stuck at M40999

Ya and that drives me crazy

Apparently he was found there and has a guard. he is located at the noctis labyrinth