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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:47:31
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Commanding Lordling
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Is a marine dreadnought actually able to see over an imperial guard chimera?
Is it able to see but not shoot over? (how high are the weapons mounted?)
I beleive that since the dread is a vehicle...line of sight is drawn from the weapons themselves when the weapons are firing.
Is this something that may come down to a dispute in say...a tournament atmosphere?
I dont actually have a marine dreadnought handy so I dont know....just wondering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:48:33
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thinking about it, it probably wouldn't.
I think the eyes are at the same height as the weapons anyway...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:53:51
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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This should be in YMDC...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 00:59:46
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Commanding Lordling
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No, this shouldnt be questionable...and it's a possible tactic....one that I beleive people are already using.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 01:00:34
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Moving to YMDC, as it's more rules than tactics, I guess (kind of borderline).
LOS for a vehicle is from the weapon mount. It's from the eyes for non-vehicle models. Yes, the weapon arm may well be blocked by a Rhino.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 01:01:06
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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It's a rules question.
Now if you were asking whether it was a viable tactic or how to use it then it would belong here.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 03:06:55
Subject: Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Yes, the dread can see past a Chimera(the vision slit in 2-3mm above the bulk of the chimera, i.e. the hull, not the turret).
The Dread can only see a standing guardsman that is 3" away from the Chimera, base-to hull(pulled out my Chimera, a guardsman, and one of my dreads).
Seeing from the vision slit does not matter though, you need LOS from the gun, the heavy flamer/Storm bolter on the DCCW will never be able to see over a chimera(it is mounted about half-way up the chimera), Certain gun arms could also not see over the Chim: MM & Ass-cannon being the 2 examples I have on hand. The T-L weapons can, as the top barrel is vision-slit-high. The missile launcher can for the same reason. I do not know about the plasma cannon. Iron clad hurricane bolters can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/08 08:24:03
Subject: Re:Dreadnought/Chimera size comparison
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm 90% sure that he's talking about GK and Psyfleman dreads positioned behind chimeras firing over them.
Yes, they can see over - the autocannons are higher than the chimera hull. Whether what you're firing at gets cover or not is an ENTIRELY different story.
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