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What are you're thoughts on people using chatspeak or L337 on the Dakka Forums , I'm fine with stuff like LOL or ROFL but sometimes its just stupid. When people constantly use numbers and don't even try to write out their words can be annoying and difficult to understand. What do you think?

It annoys me greatly to be honest.

I think it is against the rules too.

I don't use it, but it doesn't hinder me in the least to read it.

I don't mind chatspeak in situations when it's appropriate like playing video games or chatting with friends.

However on a forum like this?

blood reaper wrote:What are you're thoughts on people using chatspeak on the Dakka Forums , I'm fine with stuff like LOL or ROFL but sometimes its just stupid. When people constantly use numbers and don't even try to write out their words can be annoying and difficult to understaand. What do you think?

First of all, you are refering to both Chtspk and L337, two totally different animals.

/nitpick

Anyway, I would say I find it annoying, but only if done constantly. If someone posts a well thought out post and the puts either of those two at the end, it's all good.

Bu7 1f 7h3 3n7ir3 pos7 is 1337 sp34k, 7h47'5 wh3r3 I h4v3 a prob13m.....

No under any circumstance.

If 90% of the population gets what you're saying, who cares. The point of communication is just that. If you don't like how they post for any reason, block them.

Not on dakka. This is too refined of a forum; it will automatically make you look like a fool. If that is the norm on other forums, so be it. But I know the reason I chose dakka was for the polite atmosphere and the attempts at being coherent.

I hate it. A lot.

Where's the " Don't care" option..?

1337 speak is, I have to say, is so 2005. It's now txt spk, wth n vwls.

I wish the poll has a middle ground. The forums aren't a novel, and as such I don't mind a little bit of grammatical error here and there. I'm more concerned with what they're saying, not how they say it. So if someone can't get their point across, then yes, I have a problem with it.

micahaphone wrote:Not on dakka. This is too refined of a forum; it will automatically make you look like a fool. If that is the norm on other forums, so be it. But I know the reason I chose dakka was for the polite atmosphere and the attempts at being coherent.

This. Typing what you're saying takes effort, reading it takes effort. Communicating your ideas should be worth that effort.

Otherwise you look like an idiot.

I have a major problem when someone is incapable of typing correctly. It's really not that difficult. Utilizing internet shorthand usually makes things worse.

The only exception I make to this is when English is not the user's first language. It is fairly easy to tell when this is the case (even without the flag that represents their country of origin). In this situation, grammatical and spelling errors are not the product of laziness or apathy.

I am able to pay due respect to people attempting to read my posts; others should be able to do the same. Even if my sentences usually sprawl past common boundaries (mostly due to my thought process), they are still perfectly within the confines of the English language. If someone cannot take the minimal amount of time required to spell and punctuate their thoughts properly, I immediately look down upon them as disrespectful and unworthy of my time.

Hm, the poll might have needed a few "shades of grey" options.

I, for example, avoid 1337-speak like the plague. And while I´m quite fond of some chat abbreviations like asap, afaik, imo and so on you´d very rarely, if ever, catch me using stuff like lol, rofl and so on.

Purge. With fire.

blood reaper wrote:What are you're thoughts on people using chatspeak or L337 on the Dakka Forums , I'm fine with stuff like LOL or ROFL but sometimes its just stupid. When people constantly use numbers and don't even try to write out their words can be annoying and difficult to understand. What do you think?

They are second against the wall when the WeinerTime comes.

LIke profanitiy, a little goes a long way.

chat, leet, and textspeak all rise from areas where either extreme brevity is valued, or the obscurity inherent is actually favored. Neither is the case on Dakka, so neither is appropriate for most posts.

I'm not going to mind a few choice bits, but we have full keyboards and no real time limit on our posts. I say use them.

I'll admit that there is a distinct lack of apostrophes in many of my posts, mainly due to being so used to texting (and a certain inherent laziness), and i cant help myself when it comes to using lol, lmao, or rofl sometimes. Otherwise its proper spelling, punctuation and grammar all the way. I dont understand anything else and im sure that other Dakka users feel the same (especially users for whom English isnt their first language).

As long as you are able to communicate your thoughts coherently, use what ever form you want, just understand that not everyone will take the effort to read what you wrote. This stands also for walls of poorly formatted text and rambling posts full of typos and poor construction.

Depending on the topic, nothing will make people skip your posts more than being on-topic, well informed, and articulate.

One of the reasons I just couldn't take games like WOW anymore was the chat & 1337 crap. It was funny for about 3 minutes in 2002, now it's just a way to prove how stupid you are.

It shouldn't be used or even exist; it's an abomination of modern language.

I tolerate and use chat-speak in the following 2 situations:
When I am sending a text message from a cellphone (because I am too cheap to pay for 2 messages just to spell the words properly)
I am playing online and you only have 1 line of text to write in

Otherwise, web-forums should not use them at all (except where it has replaced a 'smilie' for conveying an emotional response e.g LOL, pwned, etc) as there is no need to abbreviate. Dakka is and should remain a place of good spelling and grammar!

Another thing that bugs me for some reason is when someone quotes a reply, and then just puts "this" under it...

Necros wrote:Another thing that bugs me for some reason is when someone quotes a reply, and then just puts "this" under it...

This.





sorry Necros, couldnt help myself

Chrysaor686 wrote:I have a major problem when someone is incapable of typing correctly. It's really not that difficult. Utilizing internet shorthand usually makes things worse.

The only exception I make to this is when English is not the user's first language. It is fairly easy to tell when this is the case (even without the flag that represents their country of origin). In this situation, grammatical and spelling errors are not the product of laziness or apathy.

I am able to pay due respect to people attempting to read my posts; others should be able to do the same. Even if my sentences usually sprawl past common boundaries (mostly due to my thought process), they are still perfectly within the confines of the English language. If someone cannot take the minimal amount of time required to spell and punctuate their thoughts properly, I immediately look down upon them as disrespectful and unworthy of my time.

You said it perfectly. I always go through my posts to make sure to fix any spelling mistakes, or anything that isn't clear. I don't always catch everything, but I try. My primary problem is run-on sentences, which is a product of too much enthusiasm and caffeine. I also use Codexes instead any of the fancier terms that certain people insist on, and in that case really don't care what anybody else says about it. That's the exception, though. And I really hate it when people spell Waaagh! wrong. It's not Waaugh or Waargh. And the W must always be capitalized. Otherwise, I'm pretty easygoing.

(See, I caught a spelling error in there somewhere and fixed it.)

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Necros wrote:Another thing that bugs me for some reason is when someone quotes a reply, and then just puts "this" under it...

This.





Sorry Necros, couldnt help myself.

Writing "This" underneath a post, whilst generally unhelpful, does go some way to provide a consensus of people's ideas/thoughts/responses etc.

Most of the time though, I find that "This" posts have an explanation attached.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

Revenent Reiko wrote:

Necros wrote:Another thing that bugs me for some reason is when someone quotes a reply, and then just puts "this" under it...

This.





Sorry Necros, couldnt help myself.

Writing "This" underneath a post, whilst generally unhelpful, does go some way to provide a consensus of people's ideas/thoughts/responses etc.

Most of the time though, I find that "This" posts have an explanation attached.

I try.
No but seriously, it does help to show agreement with a comment IMO, so long as there is some sort of well thought out and properly typed response/explanation along with it

dont mind bits like "lol" and other abbrevs, as lets face it what harm does it do.

but I dislike the random and often pointless numbers and idiotic demeaning phrases.

conversely I also intensely dislike the pedantic pseudo-intellectual grammar patrol. They are easily as bad as the other extreme who type like a baby mashing a keyboard.