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Kyras, a psyker, follows Khorne. Need I say more?

So does anyone know an actual reason why? Besides the fact that the daemon of maledictum is a blood thirster, this makes no sense to me at all.

I think it was a pact of opportunity. He needed a way to survive, Maledictus provided.

I guess any corruption is good corruption eh?

Sothas wrote:Kyras, a psyker, follows Khorne. Need I say more?

So does anyone know an actual reason why? Besides the fact that the daemon of maledictum is a blood thirster, this makes no sense to me at all.

Yeah, I wtf'd at this one too. Daemon Prince Psyker of Khorne?

Azariah Kyras wrote:I think it was a pact of opportunity. He needed a way to survive, Maledictus provided.

I don't believe that the Maledictus was ever confirmed as a Bloodthirster; merely a Daemon of Khorne. Perhaps Kyras had his powers removed when he was ascending? The sheer scale of bloodshed he artificed was obviously enough to earn Daemonhood, so either way, Khorne smiled upon him.

Even daemons of khorne need psykers to help them break the veil.

I guess khorne just happened to like Kyras for all the killing he did, well enough to let him perform the sorcery to free the daemon of maledictus anyway. Heck the maledictus probably shredded Kyras' empyreal form the second he was summoned.

Sothas wrote:Kyras, a psyker, follows Khorne. Need I say more?

Yes. Because khorne cares not why the blood flows, only that it does.

A psyker who uses his powers to turn himself into a whirling dervish of blood and skulls is not going to be rejected by Khorne.

There is no plot hole. There is only blood for the blood god-- there are but skulls for the skull throne, waiting to be harvested.

Melissia wrote:There is only blood for the blood god-- there are but skulls for the skull throne, waiting to be harvested.

Melissia, Apostle of Khorne, has spoken. All hail humbled before the great Destroyer of Ideas, for none other brings more misery to the peaceful inhabitants of Dakka than Lord M.



I jest.

Melissia wrote:

Sothas wrote:Kyras, a psyker, follows Khorne. Need I say more?

Yes. Because khorne cares not why the blood flows, only that it does.

A psyker who uses his powers to turn himself into a whirling dervish of blood and skulls is not going to be rejected by Khorne.

There is no plot hole. There is only blood for the blood god-- there are but skulls for the skull throne, waiting to be harvested.

hmmm...

Nope...I just don't have it in me to argue this today.

back to sleep for me...

NagothDaCleaver wrote:back to sleep for me...

The best possible course of action.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

NagothDaCleaver wrote:back to sleep for me...

The best possible course of action.

when you wake up without blood or a skull blame you-know-who

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

NagothDaCleaver wrote:back to sleep for me...

The best possible course of action.

when you wake up without blood or a skull blame you-know-who

Bah, blood and skulls are for pansies. All I need is a good mass-murdering and a few cokes to get me through the day.

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

NagothDaCleaver wrote:back to sleep for me...

The best possible course of action.

when you wake up without blood or a skull blame you-know-who

Voldemort?
Khorne would never suffer that wizard to live

oh wait...

Melissia wrote:
There is no plot hole.

There is several of witch few men noticed.

First one is on Eldar campaign, when they board the Space Hulk they meet the Adrastia. We know that she has also been there, after she get's off she contact Apollo and tell him: "I still have some allies left" witch probably means that Eldar are done with her agreement of hunting down Kyras. But before that they slew the Ork Warboss Bluckflag, and that's one plot hole.

Second one (the most important ) is at the briefing of the final mission before Kyras... In all races scenario we can hear about traitor Blood Raven and Chaos Marine talking about Land Raider, when Guardsman interrupts he tells them "We found another one" - witch probably means that they found another Land Raider. And the only campaign in witch that Land Rader is seen is Blood Ravens campaign ( the one Apollo and his men took ). In all others it's Baneblade tank, so Space Marine campaign is definitely the canon one, with some mix of Imperial Guard and Eldar too...

Brother Coa wrote:But before that they slew the Ork Warboss Bluckflag, and that's one plot hole.

Why is that a plot hole?

Inquisitors don't put all their eggs in one basket, as it were.

Melissia wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:But before that they slew the Ork Warboss Bluckflag, and that's one plot hole.

Why is that a plot hole?

Inquisitors don't put all their eggs in one basket, as it were.

I meant the Eldar, not Adrastia...This is plot hole as we can see Adrastia again with Eldar in the campaign later, on a Judgment of Carrion. And after that, she is talking to Apollo and tell's him " I still have some allies left" witch can be direct hint to Eldar and breaking alliance with them.

It is unlikely that Khorne has no psykers of some kind at his disposal. Otherwise his servants would be almost unable to navigate the warp and they would have no ftl communication.
I can imagine that Sorcerers, therefore psykers and nonpsykers who engage in pacts with daemonic entities to bolster their own strenght with that of their patrons, might be disliked, because
they fight with borrowed power instead of their own. Of course, even that assumes that the trite idea of Khorne as a honorable god ( because we always need the anti-hero option to attract more cool kids ) ,instead of the ultimately nihilistic butcher that i imagine he is, is still regarded as valid.

The Blood Pact create Khorne Psykers who use blood magic. Just because Khorne dislikes psykers doesn't mean his followers don't use them.

@KingDeath, Khorne was an honorable god way before the change to him being a psycho butcher and before the whole anti-hero thing became cool. I despise that they changed he and his followers into being purely about mindless blood letting and slaughter. The RT versions were much better versions than the watered down versions we have today.

Khorne cares not from where the blood flows. Only that it does.

Brother Coa wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:But before that they slew the Ork Warboss Bluckflag, and that's one plot hole.

Why is that a plot hole?

Inquisitors don't put all their eggs in one basket, as it were.

I meant the Eldar, not Adrastia...This is plot hole as we can see Adrastia again with Eldar in the campaign later, on a Judgment of Carrion. And after that, she is talking to Apollo and tell's him " I still have some allies left" witch can be direct hint to Eldar and breaking alliance with them.

Again... how exactly is that a plot hole?

Platuan4th wrote:The Blood Pact create Khorne Psykers who use blood magic. Just because Khorne dislikes psykers doesn't mean his followers don't use them.

@KingDeath, Khorne was an honorable god way before the change to him being a psycho butcher and before the whole anti-hero thing became cool. I despise that they changed he and his followers into being purely about mindless blood letting and slaughter. The RT versions were much better versions than the watered down versions we have today.

Ah, it's a matter of taste then. I actually like the Chaos Gods the way they are now, tremendously powerful but ultimately pathetic creatures which are traped into a single state of being, with naught but a
single unquenchable desire. This way they are both so much more than normal mortals, but at the same time much less.

Melissia wrote:Again... how exactly is that a plot hole?

The fact that she said that, and she didn't meet with Ork captain again after she hire him. She do meet the Eldar ( if she hired them ) anhd they tell her that they have done with their agreement. After that she tells Apollo that she "still have some allies left" witch means that Eldar have cut her deal off.

Plot hole is with Eldar/Ork choice - the Eldar most probably killed the Ork captain and then make a deal with Adrastia...

Brother Coa wrote:

Melissia wrote:Again... how exactly is that a plot hole?

The fact that she said that, and she didn't meet with Ork captain again after she hire him.

... and again, how is that a plot hole?

Just because she didn't talk with the good kaptin doesn't mean she doesn't have allies elsewhere.

She's an Inquisitor. She always has allies elsewhere in the Imperium at least, and quite possibly outside of it, which have nothing to do with Orks.

Point proven, at least the Land Raider is a plot hole..

Dunno, I recall fighting it as Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Orks, but then it HAS been a while so I'd have to go through it again to look.

Besides, if this is all ya can find, then frankly Relic's still doing better than GW.

Melissia wrote:Dunno, I recall fighting it as Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Orks, but then it HAS been a while so I'd have to go through it again to look.

Besides, if this is all ya can find, then frankly Relic's still doing better than GW.

That's not that hard

Melissia wrote:Dunno, I recall fighting it as Imperial Guard, Eldar, and Orks, but then it HAS been a while so I'd have to go through it again to look.

No, That and there is ANOTHER ONE beside that. And the only part where you can see 2 Land Raiders is Blood Ravens campaign.

Guardsman said that they found "another one" ( second Land Raider ). There is the one we all know ( the one you are fighting against in all campaigns ) and the other one is the one that you are commanding as Blood Raven.

Plot hole...




Trough all of communication 2 traitor marines are talking about Land Raider, then Guardsman interrupts and said that they found another one. Only campaign with 2 Land Raiders in Blood Ravens campaign.

I think they are merely implying the existance of a second land raider rather than actually showing it...
Or the guardsman is talking about something different entirely...

purplefood wrote:I think they are merely implying the existance of a second land raider rather than actually showing it...
Or the guardsman is talking about something different entirely...

And it's quite accidental that Apollo and the other's just take one that was just uncovered...
Really accidental...
And he don't even say what it is, he just said "another one" after listening to their conversation about Land Raider.
It is the first thing you mentioned, or that GW is pointing to canon campaign...

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:I think they are merely implying the existance of a second land raider rather than actually showing it...
Or the guardsman is talking about something different entirely...

And it's quite accidental that Apollo and the other's just take one that was just uncovered...
Really accidental...

Clearly it wasn't an accident...
Maybe the other one just isn't seen again and gets destroyed by some other force... maybe it broke down?

There are possible explanations for it. It's not a very big plot hole.

Well since several of the campaigns arn't going to be canon, at least not all the way through, it's going to come up with plot holes, the the general being killed in the first mission. Good chances that won't be canon. So anything that happens should be taken with a grain of salt until we know what's actually canon. With that said couldn't it just be that no one else gets to see the LR cuz the BRs have it?